Relax... SCORES aren't supposed to make ZENse!

Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DL Macro for Nikon

04/21/2010 05:52:00 PM · #101

Originally posted by glockguy:

Being part of a voting game does not interest me whatsoever.

Umm.. that's how challenge entries are rated.

Nadine_Vb

Nikon D2X

04/21/2010 05:54:00 PM · #102

Who would ever have thought that the Zen challenge would create this kind of tension...
How contradictory is that?

yakatme

Lytro Illum Light Field Digital

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

04/21/2010 05:58:33 PM · #103

Originally posted by glockguy:

Holy crap these scores are horrendous.....

Sorry if I sound "out of the loop", but I am new here. Can someone please explain to me how the DPL could affect the scores?

It's NOT the DPL, or at least there is not as much effect as some conspiracy theorists here seem to believe.

There are a heck of a lot more entries in this challenge than usual (due to the DPL), so there are a lot of people who have scores that are being topped right now. They show up in threads like this to complain.

Not as many contestants who are scoring well post in here as compared to the contestants who are scoring poorly. So, until we see the final results of the challenge we won't know for sure if the DPL is having the effect that some people would like to believe.

My score? It's been undulating between 6.75 and 6.9 all day and this is the first time that I have posted my score (except in my team's thread). I don't think mine is getting targeted for downward voting due to it being the other voter's competition. It's right where I would expect it to be.

Message edited by author 2010-04-21 18:01:07.

04/21/2010 06:05:19 PM · #104

fair enough...

but that doesn't stop the SC from somehow differentiating the DPL photos from the regular entries. That would alleviate any guesswork as to "if DPL is affecting the scores".......

klkitchens

Pentax K-1

Pentax FA 50mm f/1.4 AF

04/21/2010 06:05:31 PM · #105

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by glockguy:
Being part of a voting game does not interest me whatsoever.

Umm.. that's how challenge entries are rated.

chuckle :)

04/21/2010 06:06:33 PM · #106

sweet...so i am expecting that everyone else who submitted an entry is going to vote a 1 to all the other entries??????

04/21/2010 06:09:43 PM · #107

Originally posted by glockguy:

sweet...so i am expecting that everyone else who submitted an entry is going to vote a 1 to all the other entries??????

Exactly. The hysteria is silly.

klkitchens

Pentax K-1

Pentax FA 50mm f/1.4 AF

04/21/2010 06:10:37 PM · #108

Say it again...

DPL challenges should have additional ratings...

DPL Competitors average vote: x.xxxx
DPL Entries average vote: x.xxxx

and settle it once and for all. :)

Sony FE 3.5-5.6/28-70 mm OSS

04/21/2010 06:11:28 PM · #109

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

Say it again...

DPL challenges should have additional ratings...

DPL Competitors average vote: x.xxxx
DPL Entries average vote: x.xxxx

and settle it once and for all. :)

Thank you

JunieMoon

Sony Alpha a7 II

04/21/2010 06:32:01 PM · #110

I guess I missed the minimalist connection. My score is a lot lower than I expected, but I also relied on more of the harmony and simplicity aspect, just not minimalist. Oh well, I guess I won't be offsetting my last two challenges with a good one this time around either. Doesn't make any difference. I already sold a print of it.

khdoss

Nikon D300

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

04/21/2010 06:42:07 PM · #111

I cant agree with you more. When I think of Zen I see something that calms me when I see it. It can be a flower or flowing water. A baby snuggled in the arms of a parent. Voting should always be by the emotion evoked in the voter when they look at a picture, not what fits the broad spectrum of what a person thinks is Zen.
My score is setting up to be the worst of all times and I dont care I love my shot..and I already sold a copy so money in the pocket..

Originally posted by SteveJ:

I practised Zarhzen, the practice of sitting(Zar) thinking(Zen) for quite a few years in the '90's onwards. Most people don't have a clue what Zen is or what the practice is. They are just voting on pruddy pictures.

Stones and linesin gravel, Zen? A tree in the mist, Zen? Nope, Zen is within you and around you, it becomes you and you become it. Still, perhaps the scoring is something to think about:)

rinac

Pentax K20D

Pentax SMC-F 50mm f/1.7

04/21/2010 09:54:58 PM · #112

Bleh, mine's so silent and calming that voters are falling asleep on the 5 button the instant the image comes into view.

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III

04/21/2010 10:09:49 PM · #113

Originally posted by rinac:

Bleh, mine's so silent and calming that voters are falling asleep on the 5 button the instant the image comes into view.

LOL! zzzzzzz5zzzzzzz

RamblinR

Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro

04/21/2010 10:59:25 PM · #114

Votes: 78
Views: 123
Avg Vote: 6.0256

I'm not complaining about the voting with this DPL stuff.
I've never been in a team before and it has made me enter both ZEN and Balloons.
I am scoring higher than usual (generally 5.5 area if I'm lucky)
So, no complaints from me.

ThingFish

Olympus OM-D E-M5

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

04/22/2010 11:29:52 AM · #115

Really quite blerchhhhhhhh !!
anyhow...the 2 comments are worth it :)
Votes: 98
Views: 139
Avg Vote: 5.2857
Comments: 2
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 04/22/10 11:27 am

dali_lama_2k

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

04/22/2010 11:47:33 AM · #116

Kinda noob on the acronyms here, couldn't find translation on Urban Dictionary, either! What is DPL and what is all this about teams? I thought all pics were judged individually. And about the "1" votes, c'mon, I know people are trying to push scores but you ruin the fun by making a picture get a vote that is only warranted if absolutely no effort was made to take the pic (no focus, no DOF, crappy angle, etc.) Let's just make a simple, honest effort to vote here: heck, if being lazy, give a pic a 5 if it is at least taken with some skill. Most pictures are going to be average, anyways (mine included, I bet), and 5 is at least median score which usually becomes the average, anyways. This could at least reflect the actual value of the image to the photographer, so as not to discourage them. And if voting for a friend, be honest. If your friend can't take your criticism, what kind of friend are they?

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED VR

04/22/2010 11:55:25 AM · #117

I wondered the same thing....

DPL is Digital Photography League

Originally posted by bohemka:

We're grouped into teams, and it's head-to-head competition. You can't vote on your teammates' photos, so you could just rate everyone down and hope to get through on that.

This of course hadn't occurred to me until I saw my mid-4 scores and didn't think they were that bad. I haven't voted, and probably won't. Just a guess as to what's up.

Also, there are a lot of entries. My view-to-vote ratio in Zen is nearly 1:1, which tells me people are drive-by-voting because there are so many. If they would just spend a bit more time they would notice tomorrow's winning lotto numbers in the bottom right corner. Zen is not for the impatient.

ltlmschrisss

Nikon D850

04/22/2010 11:57:20 AM · #118

Votes: 100
Views: 154
Avg Vote: 5.6900
Comments: 3

Lytro Illum Light Field Digital

04/22/2010 12:00:47 PM · #119

A low score wouldn't bother me so much if I at least was receiving comments on why people were voting that way.

Someone made a comment about "drive by voting". I couldn't agree more. I have almost a 1:1 view:vote ratio and only 1 comment on over a 100 votes!

yakatme

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

04/22/2010 12:04:04 PM · #120

156:99 views to votes here.