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02/19/2004 01:39:54 AM · #51 |
It went down from 4.802 to 4.801...which one of you pot heads voted it down??? If I find out, off to jail you go!
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02/19/2004 01:57:05 AM · #52 |
| I've heard that the reason marijauana was made illegal was that back in the 1930s, cotton growers wanted to eliminate their competition, the hemp growers. |
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02/19/2004 02:06:12 AM · #53 |
there is a great movie out called "Grass" that talks about the history of marijuana in america. excellent movie.
ill try and get it online for download. |
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02/19/2004 02:10:12 AM · #54 |
They should make a versions that has no or little smell, because the smell from all those coffeeshops and people smoking everywhere is getting extremely irritating. Not only that, but a lot of people don't know their limit and cause trouble, from violence to vomiting in front of people's doors.
I know a lot of people who smoke and in the long run it does not seem to have a good influence on them. But perhaps that is because the THC levels in the Netherlands have reached the level of hard drug quality (opposed to what we like to call softdrugs) and these particular people are very heavy users. It ranges from neurotic behaviour to stupid decisions.
From Holland and I don't smoke either marihuana nor hash nor tobacco (have had it a few times in the past but I got a very bad experience with it).
Message edited by author 2004-02-19 02:11:46.
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02/19/2004 02:16:15 AM · #55 |
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02/19/2004 02:16:50 AM · #56 |
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02/19/2004 02:27:00 AM · #57 |
"General Discussion
No other place for it? Try here!"
this is exactly where it belongs. |
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02/19/2004 06:19:02 PM · #58 |
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02/19/2004 06:48:21 PM · #59 |
| If horse-shit is legal why not :-) . All potheads I know are bellow average IQ,and makes me wonder.... |
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02/19/2004 09:51:47 PM · #60 |
George Washington was a hemp farmer.
THC was in a fairly large percentage of commonly prescribed medicines before it was made illegal. Then again, Aspirin would not be approved by the FDA if it came out today. It's all about the money and the difficulties in changing the current system.
People need to make the distinction between potheads and people who smoke pot. Not all people who like to drink a few beers on the weekends with their friends go out and kill people on the road to get home quickly to beat their wives either. It is important to look at every case on an individual basis, a luxury the law cannot afford. I believe that is the essence of the problem, not the actual legalization of certain substances. I think the laws should be more like the laws we have for drinking and driving. If someone does something illegal under the influence of any substance, they are still responsible for their actions, including the choice to injest the drug.
I believe you can have up to a quarter pound in your own home in Alaska now...
I prefer politicians who have smoked pot. :) |
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02/19/2004 10:24:04 PM · #61 |
maybe one day, but not until the USA get a lot of our current problems fixed first.
The more important issues of health care and education need to be addressed and somewhat fixed before everybody can wasted.... Im not for making it legal for general use, for medical and other industrial needs I am for it.
James
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02/19/2004 10:50:24 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by jab119:
maybe one day, but not until the USA get a lot of our current problems fixed first.
The more important issues of health care and education need to be addressed and somewhat fixed before everybody can wasted.... Im not for making it legal for general use, for medical and other industrial needs I am for it.
James |
decriminilizing marijuana and legalizing hemp would help fix alot of our problems.
1. billions of dollars and man hours saved per year from police who no longer have to waste there time dealing with pot affenders. they can focus on more important issues, like patrolling our inner cities and our borders.
2. environmentally, hemp is a life savor. its many uses are far more than any other plant manufactoring wise and health wise (the hemp seed and its oil is VERY high in nutrients) not to mention how many less trees we would have to kill and how much more efficient farmers could be growing hemp instead of cotton.
3. economy. bush and other say they want to help the worlds economy? there are many countries that would HIGHLY benefit from selling hemp to america. in africa the stuff grows in the wild, they would love to be able to have something to sell to rich america.
i suggest everyone rent the movie "grass" with woody harrilson. ill try and post it for DL at some point if i can. |
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02/19/2004 11:17:00 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by jab119:
maybe one day, but not until the USA get a lot of our current problems fixed first.
The more important issues of health care and education need to be addressed and somewhat fixed before everybody can wasted.... Im not for making it legal for general use, for medical and other industrial needs I am for it.
James |
decriminilizing marijuana and legalizing hemp would help fix alot of our problems.
1. billions of dollars and man hours saved per year from police who no longer have to waste there time dealing with pot affenders. they can focus on more important issues, like patrolling our inner cities and our borders. |
billions may be saved, but how many lives will destroyed because of its now legal, it will spawn the same if not more problems like alcohol has today, if you have not lived in a family or dealt with a family who has an alcoholic it in then you wont understand.
But if that is a problem you are willing to deal with then fine, you live with it, I wont.
James
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02/20/2004 12:03:09 AM · #64 |
lives are not ruined by marijuana anything like alchohol and besides, not talking about making joints legal to buy at 7/11.. talking about decriminilization, so its no longer something worth taking jail space over or wasting tax dollars trying to hunt people down for.
hell keep it illegal.. hemp is what were really talking about here. its a super plant. george washington said your a fool if you dont grow it. |
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02/20/2004 12:30:44 AM · #65 |
wasn't the Constitution written on Hemp? heard that somewhere, not sure if its true or not.
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02/20/2004 12:49:39 AM · #66 |
| ive heard that aswell, tho not sure its true. but i do know that US money was printed on hemp for a long time. |
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02/20/2004 01:54:02 AM · #67 |
And they rolled their joints with dollars? Now I see how the effect was discovered. :)
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02/20/2004 09:14:33 AM · #68 |
| I hope that when this poor, befuddled alien returns to his home planet, he takes Jesse with him. |
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02/20/2004 02:15:57 PM · #69 |
| i hope he takes me with him.. |
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02/20/2004 06:34:03 PM · #70 |
| i didn't read any of this, but no. People who argue that it would be economically more efficient and much safer... are obviously just looking to score some legal weed. |
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02/20/2004 06:36:37 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by Miah:
i didn't read any of this, but no. People who argue that it would be economically more efficient and much safer... are obviously just looking to score some legal weed. |
obviously.. |
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02/21/2004 10:46:01 AM · #72 |
I think the Government is wrong, they need to legalize it and quit wasting thier time having crooked cops make thier profit off of it. We are wasting jail space because of it. Alcohol is much worse than pot, and the addiction is a chemical addiction, which is much worse to control and you would need medication to control. Whereas marijuana is a psychological addiction, you do not need medication to overcome the cravings.
Message edited by author 2004-02-21 10:52:35. |
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03/02/2004 04:20:22 PM · #73 |
| I take a common sense approach. Legalize everything and allow the gov't to make some tax dollars off it. Why should criminal organizations be making all that money? People are going to do what they're going to do and it's still goign to cost tax dollars/health care, etc. so why not turn some profit from it? And the war on drugs - don't even get me started - what a total WASTE of money and foreign policy for poor Americans. I'm from Canada and we have come close to decriminilizing pot a few times, but no cigar so far. Our foreign policy is too influenced by American foreign policy (which is fine, but still think war on drugs is a waste of time, money and resources). Of course, would rather see legalizing it than decriminilizing it - for the money argument alone. |
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03/02/2004 04:48:15 PM · #74 |
Hemp IS Legal in many many places, it's not the same plant as marijuana. A telephone pole of hemp has the same THC content as one marijuana joint, you see the difference?
Legalize marijuana! As soon as we have a way of testing drivers and vehicle operators.........etc etc etc. I know alot of people, myself also have been guilty in the past, who toke and drive, it's just dangerous and ridiculous. Find an on-the-spot like a 'breathalizer' test and I'd be on board.
Message edited by author 2004-03-02 16:49:48. |
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03/02/2004 05:50:16 PM · #75 |
Pot may as well be legal... anyone I've known who wanted to smoke pot has been able to acquire and smoke whenever they like, on extremely short notice, dating back from highschool.
People who want to smoke pot *already* smoke pot. Criminalizing marijuana makes these people into criminals, but doesn't stop them from smoking pot. If anything, keeping pot illegal helps codify a casual disregard for laws that they don't agree with.
Why are our jails so full? You got it. Small-time drug dealers caught selling drugs to friends and aquaintences. The War On Drugs is an abject failure.
So I say legalize it! Bust the hell out of anyone who drives or commits a crime under the influence, but if they're at home on their couch, what's the big deal?
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