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02/15/2010 12:42:44 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I don't really like any set-up shot that much. Nor did I ever say I did like it. |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I honestly don't care if photo-realistic artwork is doing the 'heavy lifting' of the entry. I honestly don't. I, personally, applaud the creativity. |
OK...which one is it?
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02/15/2010 12:45:24 PM · #52 |
Hey!
Everyone gets a little DQ every once in a while, it's like a wee breath of fresh air to the creative lung.
The real art of getting a DQ is to try for 3 in a row and have a month off. |
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02/15/2010 12:47:55 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by MAK:
Hey!
Everyone gets a little DQ every once in a while, it's like a wee breath of fresh air to the creative lung.
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It's like the scars of war. Now you're a DPC warrior ;) |
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02/15/2010 12:54:44 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by sekarmalathy:
Before submitting this image, I was reading through the administrative announcements and other threads about using a photo or an art-piece. I considered that this does not violate the challenge rules, because I was trying to depict the pepper and fork as main subject and the fire as background only. In the process of analyzing that, I missed a bigger point and forgot the fact that I am using an image, which is not mine. All that I had in my mind was to use a background to suit my subject and nothing else. BIG blunder.
I am not replying in this thread to justify about the shot, because it is already my mistake that I had used an image from the web. I am here to only clarify that it was purely unintentional. Again, I am not trying to safely say that it is only a result of my ignorance. When I participate in a contest, it is my responsibility to be informed about the right and wrong - ignorance also is not acceptable. Reading the discussion here, I completely understand how it would have been, if I see my image as a background on someone else's photograph.
I think this explanation would invite some more discussion in this thread, but I thought I should explain. It's my mistake and I am learning from it now. |
I am afraid your post suggests that you still don't fully understand the rule. It would still be illegal if the fire picture would have been yours and not taken from the internet. whether the rule is good or bad is a different discussion altogether.
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02/15/2010 01:02:12 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by smardaz:
And quite honestly, given my skill set i would most likely be flattered if anyone felt one of my images was worth "swiping" |
That wasn't really my point, anyway.
I was more surprised that considering the general attitude that's portrayed around here about image theft on any level, including using someone else's image as a screensaver/background, I find it surprising that someone would use an image off the 'Net at all.
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02/15/2010 03:02:44 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I don't really like any set-up shot that much. Nor did I ever say I did like it. |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I honestly don't care if photo-realistic artwork is doing the 'heavy lifting' of the entry. I honestly don't. I, personally, applaud the creativity. |
OK...which one is it? |
What are you talking about? There's no contradiction here. I don't have to like Manet's style to appreciate what he did for painting, creatively. I don't have to like Titanic to appreciate that it was a well done movie that was appreciated by many.
capiche? |
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02/15/2010 03:09:13 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by smardaz:
And quite honestly, given my skill set i would most likely be flattered if anyone felt one of my images was worth "swiping" |
That wasn't really my point, anyway.
I was more surprised that considering the general attitude that's portrayed around here about image theft on any level, including using someone else's image as a screensaver/background, I find it surprising that someone would use an image off the 'Net at all. |
Are you serious? You've never ever download an image off the net and used it as a screensaver? ROFLMFAO. |
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02/15/2010 03:10:40 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by smardaz:
And quite honestly, given my skill set i would most likely be flattered if anyone felt one of my images was worth "swiping" |
That wasn't really my point, anyway.
I was more surprised that considering the general attitude that's portrayed around here about image theft on any level, including using someone else's image as a screensaver/background, I find it surprising that someone would use an image off the 'Net at all. |
Are you serious? You've never ever download an image off the net and used it as a screensaver? ROFLMFAO. |
I don't believe you're comprehending what Jeb is saying at all. You might want to re-read it. |
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02/15/2010 03:11:32 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I don't really like any set-up shot that much. Nor did I ever say I did like it. |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I honestly don't care if photo-realistic artwork is doing the 'heavy lifting' of the entry. I honestly don't. I, personally, applaud the creativity. |
OK...which one is it? |
What are you talking about? There's no contradiction here. I don't have to like Manet's style to appreciate what he did for painting, creatively. I don't have to like Titanic to appreciate that it was a well done movie that was appreciated by many.
capiche? |
YO! It's Monet!
So what is it then? Are you for or against it? Get off the fence dude. :) |
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02/15/2010 03:12:37 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by smardaz:
And quite honestly, given my skill set i would most likely be flattered if anyone felt one of my images was worth "swiping" |
That wasn't really my point, anyway.
I was more surprised that considering the general attitude that's portrayed around here about image theft on any level, including using someone else's image as a screensaver/background, I find it surprising that someone would use an image off the 'Net at all. |
Are you serious? You've never ever download an image off the net and used it as a screensaver? ROFLMFAO. |
He's pointing out that when *someone lets it be known on DPC that they have done this*, people come out of the woodwork saying "If it was my image I'd be pissed off!" There's a huge cultural element in DPC that believes using anybody else's image, for eany reason whatsoever, in any way whatsoever, is despicable. We see this all the time.
So Jeb's point is, where are these people *in this thread*? Why is there no hue-and-cry over the fact that the image was "ripped off" the internet.
I'm not one of those people, mind you, but I take Jeb's point.
R. |
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02/15/2010 03:15:31 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
capiche? |
are you trying to say capisce? well don't cause it makes my ears hurt - Vinne Antonelli |
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02/15/2010 03:15:42 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I don't really like any set-up shot that much. Nor did I ever say I did like it. |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
......... I honestly don't care if photo-realistic artwork is doing the 'heavy lifting' of the entry. I honestly don't. I, personally, applaud the creativity. |
OK...which one is it? |
What are you talking about? There's no contradiction here. I don't have to like Manet's style to appreciate what he did for painting, creatively. I don't have to like Titanic to appreciate that it was a well done movie that was appreciated by many.
capiche? |
YO! It's Monet!
So what is it then? Are you for or against it? Get off the fence dude. :) |
Manet and Monet were two separate painters. Yo.
Am I for or against what? I'm AGAINST the rule applied to photos such as the one that was DQd, but not just because I LIKE the images, which was implied by someone, and the only reason I brought it up.
There is no fence.
There is no spoon.
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02/15/2010 03:16:02 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by jmulvihill:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
capiche? |
are you trying to say capisce? well don't cause it makes my ears hurt - Vinne Antonelli |
hehe. |
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02/15/2010 03:19:48 PM · #64 |
The way I see it another dirty cheat has been caught out by the site council. Personally I have had my doubts about De Sousa for quite some time. Maybe we should look a bit closer at some of his other ribbon winners..
Well done SC! Well done! |
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02/15/2010 04:36:58 PM · #65 |
I admit it -- I stole  Judi's self-portrait for a challenge:
Ran out of time to fly to Australia to get a portrait of her. She did catch me, however. I'm still doing time -- I'll be out in 8-10.
Message edited by author 2010-02-15 16:37:10.
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02/15/2010 04:44:15 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by smardaz:
And quite honestly, given my skill set i would most likely be flattered if anyone felt one of my images was worth "swiping" |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
That wasn't really my point, anyway.
I was more surprised that considering the general attitude that's portrayed around here about image theft on any level, including using someone else's image as a screensaver/background, I find it surprising that someone would use an image off the 'Net at all. |
Originally posted by Jac:
Are you serious? You've never ever download an image off the net and used it as a screensaver? ROFLMFAO. |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
He's pointing out that when *someone lets it be known on DPC that they have done this*, people come out of the woodwork saying "If it was my image I'd be pissed off!" There's a huge cultural element in DPC that believes using anybody else's image, for eany reason whatsoever, in any way whatsoever, is despicable. We see this all the time.
So Jeb's point is, where are these people *in this thread*? Why is there no hue-and-cry over the fact that the image was "ripped off" the internet.
I'm not one of those people, mind you, but I take Jeb's point.
R. |
Robert is correct with his assessment.
And BTW, no, I have never downloaded an image from the web to use for a screensaver/background.
I'm a photog, dude......why wouldn't I use my own images?
Actually, quite a few of the computers here at work have my John Deere related files on 'em!
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02/15/2010 05:03:51 PM · #67 |
Just looking around at favorite photos and came across this...
and my question is what's the difference between that shot and  sekarmalathy's? |
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02/15/2010 05:06:19 PM · #68 |
I believe that one has been discussed before, that it passed under the old rules at the time, but things have changed and it wouldn't make it through now. (If I remember correctly)
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02/15/2010 05:08:43 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by kleski:
what's the difference between that shot and sekarmalathy's? |
Different rules. |
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02/15/2010 05:10:36 PM · #70 |
sorry, wasn't thread related...
Message edited by author 2010-02-15 17:14:01. |
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02/15/2010 10:41:39 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by kleski:
what's the difference between that shot and sekarmalathy's? |
Different rules. |
yeah different rules apply to SC then to the regular folks.
And yes you should read Sarcasm into that Shannon.
:D
Matt |
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02/15/2010 10:53:13 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by MattO:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by kleski:
what's the difference between that shot and sekarmalathy's? |
Different rules. |
yeah different rules apply to SC then to the regular folks. |
I guess some of us SC members are just regular folks then ...
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=769529
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=803381 |
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02/15/2010 10:53:19 PM · #73 |
Sorry to see that the original blue and red ribbon winners got DQ'ed because of mistakes that were against the rules:-( .
And speaking of rules...
I've looked all through this thread and no one has stated the obvious rule- One Ring To Rule Them All:-):-)
Message edited by author 2010-02-15 22:53:53. |
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02/15/2010 11:06:20 PM · #74 |
| Man... I don't think I could be SC. I agree with the rule and appluad their defence of it. I think this is a no win situation for everyone involved. |
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02/16/2010 04:42:09 AM · #75 |
It has always been said that just because a technique was used before, does not mean it is still legal. Shannon's image was from 2005 and there have been so many rule changes since then that his image now would be deemed illegal, but was perfectly legal under the rules 5 years go.........
Of course, if you are considering using artwork in your image, the best way is to submit a ticket early to SC and get some feedback from them. It won't guarentee you wont get DQ'd, but it will give a much better idea of what is legal. Also, there are many threads that discuss the current rules as they are.
Also, with the rules having grey areas (and some grey areas can never be removed) it is always difficult for SC to make these decisions. Its a shame that two top images got DQ's, but under the current rules, they both broke them............ |
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