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 02/07/2004 01:02:18 PM · #1


I took this shot of my brother for his portfolio. Looking for some feedback on ways to improve it. Is the tone too much?
 02/07/2004 01:10:19 PM · #2
I would say to just remove the shoes, and get his whole foot in the image.

Otherwise a nice angle, and great sepia and textured shot!
 02/07/2004 01:15:07 PM · #3
Originally posted by KarenB:
I would say to just remove the shoes, and get his whole foot in the image.

Otherwise a nice angle, and great sepia and textured shot!


I was going to say pretty much the same thing. The shoes are a distraction.
 02/07/2004 02:02:49 PM · #4
I'd crop this closer to him. That would take the shoes out of it. Maybe even cut off his feet. For portfolio shots, don't think about the rules of photography too much. What you are really after is putting ALL emphasis on the subject. I think the toning is really warm and is very appropriate.

I don't know a whole lot about doing portfolio shots except for what I've read. That putting all the emphasis on the subject thing really makes a whole lot of sense. If I were doing it, I'd approach the shoot as a marketing endeavor as much as I would a photographic endeavor.

Good luck - Bob
 02/07/2004 02:08:31 PM · #5
Originally posted by inspzil:
Maybe even cut off his feet. For portfolio shots, don't think about the rules of photography too much.

Not sure if it's true, but I think I remember reading somewhere one shouldn't generally chop hands/feet off.. Interested if anyone can confirm or deny that.
 02/07/2004 03:35:47 PM · #6
Yes, this is true.. unless you are going for a head and shoulders or half body shot.



Message edited by author 2004-02-07 15:36:19.
 02/07/2004 03:52:20 PM · #7
Well I was sorta figuring if one is already cut off, chop 'em both to get closer. I wouldn't say do that as a rule or anything. But for this particular photo, I don't think it will seriously dimish the quality of the photo. But no, don't cut them off on purpose... I didn't mean to make it sound like that is an acceptable thing to do.

I agree about the head shots. I've seen so many head shots that go so far as to cut off the top of the head. Right, wrong or otherwise, it happens a lot.

Bob
 02/07/2004 04:22:37 PM · #8
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Not sure if it's true, but I think I remember reading somewhere one shouldn't generally chop hands/feet off.. Interested if anyone can confirm or deny that.


hmm, in the UK its illegal!

Agree will all the above, have you tried the pic in B & W?

Message edited by author 2004-02-07 16:36:05.
 02/07/2004 07:13:17 PM · #9
Thanks everyone. Some really good suggestions. Gonna go back to the darkroom & make some of them happen. Will hit you guys back with the final version(s).

Thanks again!
 02/07/2004 07:48:12 PM · #10
Originally posted by KarenB:
... unless you are going for a head and shoulders or half body shot.

Aspiring professional photographers should note that throughout history this pose has proven to be a bust.
 02/07/2004 07:55:43 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by KarenB:
... unless you are going for a head and shoulders or half body shot.

Aspiring professional photographers should note that throughout history this pose has proven to be a bust.


ROTFLMAO!
 02/07/2004 08:04:41 PM · #12
Originally posted by kirbic:
ROTFLMAO!

Sorry, I hope the reconstructive surgery is covered by your insurance.

Seriously(?), either get the foot back in the frame or take off more. I've been cropping a lot of pictures to a square when it doesn't fit a standard aspect ratio. Try a square crop ending just below his hands, keeping the shoes out, but the top of his head (and as much above it as you can) in.
 02/08/2004 01:56:44 AM · #13
I think a pretty safe general rule is
don't crop on joints.

which would make this crop job, a problem.. and it IS when you look at it.
 02/08/2004 09:39:28 AM · #14
The shot would be great if the shoes weren't in it and the subject was further up in the frame. The shoes are a distraction but what distracts me more is the amount of space above his head while at the same time his foot is cut off.
 02/08/2004 07:54:21 PM · #15
Okie dokie! I remade the original shot, vintage Baz, following the the suggestions given on this thread. It was really good advice & I am pleased with the results. Here they are;



How are they & which one is better?

Message edited by author 2004-02-08 19:55:24.
 02/08/2004 08:42:35 PM · #16
Black and white, a little more contrast and if you like the shoes, keep 'em! I like them, shows his character and if you flick through great magazines [Vanity Fair has some of the best photographers in the world] they usually incorporate objects like that. I say keep them but redo the pic to include his entire foot. Think about it okay? :-)
 02/08/2004 09:59:07 PM · #17
Thanks Goldberry! I like the shoes as well! Unfortunately I can't add anymore of the cut off foot from the origianl bc it was fotographed. CURSES!

I have a fwe more that I am playing around with & will hopefull post for comments soon. Gonna go back & incude the shoes to see how it looks.

Thanks againe everyone!
 02/08/2004 11:33:49 PM · #18
I like the shoes, but want to see the foot : )
 02/09/2004 10:06:37 AM · #19
Originally posted by Rooster:
Okie dokie! I remade the original shot, vintage Baz, following the the suggestions given on this thread. It was really good advice & I am pleased with the results. Here they are;



How are they & which one is better?


I like the Black and White one better, and I think close up is much better to, I also like the shoes too, to bad you can't redo the shot! Even if you had him holding the shoes would be cool.

Still very nice!

Melissa
 02/09/2004 11:16:23 AM · #20
Rooster,

I like the new-and-improved, cropped version better also. I really don't have much preference on the sepia or B&W, but if forced to choose would probably pick the B&W. Fine portrait work, IMHO.
 02/09/2004 12:27:45 PM · #21
Originally posted by inspzil:


I've seen so many head shots that go so far as to cut off the top of the head. Right, wrong or otherwise, it happens a lot.

Bob


It's right. When done properly and proportionately it's very flattering. I tried inserting an image from my weekend shoot but it ain't happening so I can't even give you an example here.

Message edited by author 2004-02-09 12:29:39.
 02/09/2004 12:32:49 PM · #22
A lot of actors head shots clip the top. The interest is in their facial features -- the hair is completely changeable anyway.
 02/15/2004 02:36:25 AM · #23
I'm liking the B&W shot.
 02/15/2004 09:17:03 AM · #24
I crop in very close on my portraits. Many head shots are done that way. Here is one example.


I prefer the B&W of the two here, but would crop a little more off the left and top portion. The sepia version has too much orange/yellow tones to it.
 02/15/2004 10:32:40 AM · #25
Originally posted by TerryGee:
I crop in very close on my portraits. Many head shots are done that way. Here is one example.


I prefer the B&W of the two here, but would crop a little more off the left and top portion. The sepia version has too much orange/yellow tones to it.


Nice one Terry! :)
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