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10/30/2009 01:21:03 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
It may be worthwhile for anyone who expects that they may someday win a DPC ribbon, or even come close, to send in a shot for validation to see if your system to save the original file is working or if it is dinking the cam file with a tag when you copy it to your computer to store it. |
Judy has already had many images validated, so that may not provide much comfort. |
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10/30/2009 02:05:07 AM · #27 |
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10/30/2009 09:09:12 AM · #28 |
| Someone should build an action that allows you to retain the original unedited. Or a DPC import program that make duplicates on import. |
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10/30/2009 09:17:51 AM · #29 |
 Great shot, Judy.
Sorry to see the DQ.
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10/30/2009 01:32:57 PM · #30 |
It still amuses me that almost every time something gets DQ'd, one of the arguments against it is that "it's such a great photo!".
As if the quality of the photo gives it any more or less validity. hahah. I laugh. |
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10/30/2009 01:49:23 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
It still amuses me that almost every time something gets DQ'd, one of the arguments against it is that "it's such a great photo!". |
That's never been an argument against any of my DQs ... :-( |
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10/30/2009 02:33:20 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
It still amuses me that almost every time something gets DQ'd, one of the arguments against it is that "it's such a great photo!". |
That's never been an argument against any of my DQs ... :-( |
Probably because none of them landed on the front page, which according to the memo I received that's the only way you can be assured an entry actually existed.
Message edited by author 2009-10-30 14:33:49. |
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10/30/2009 02:45:26 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
It still amuses me that almost every time something gets DQ'd, one of the arguments against it is that "it's such a great photo!". |
That's never been an argument against any of my DQs ... :-( |
Yah, I should have qualified that with "Something on the front page gets DQ'd" |
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10/30/2009 03:20:02 PM · #34 |
Want to see this image "on the front page"?
Check out this link:
//www.dpchallenge.com/favorites.php
Right now that image sits in many of the slots for recently added favs. (4 out of 12 as of this posting)
Message edited by author 2009-10-30 15:20:30. |
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11/01/2009 05:39:53 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I think it was perfectly reasonable to expect that doing a Save As would leave the original image unaltered. And I also think it's reasonable to think that a viewer would never alter the original on the card. But all this has been discovered and talked about before. Why not put a link to this information? After my DQ I spent 3 hours searching for information wondering why I didn't have an original. I never did find the right threads -- you need to know what you're looking for. I repeat -- please SC, save people the time and frustration and make this information easily accessible! There are so many people who are trying to follow the rules but have no idea all the little ins and outs that can cause problems. This can be fixed! Add links to the threads that further clarify the rules! |
Can someone please explain this to me as none of the other answers on this thread seem to?
Personally I open RAW (NEF) files in Photoshop and save them as PSD files. Adobe Bridge saves an xmp file alongside mine with the RAW settings I used. Whatever I do in Bridge or Photoshop nothing happens to the original RAW file, therefore there is no reason for me to store an additional copy, something that would use up far too much disk space for my liking.
So what does PS Elements do differently? |
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11/01/2009 05:53:57 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by rob_smith:
Can someone please explain this to me as none of the other answers on this thread seem to?
Personally I open RAW (NEF) files in Photoshop and save them as PSD files. Adobe Bridge saves an xmp file alongside mine with the RAW settings I used. Whatever I do in Bridge or Photoshop nothing happens to the original RAW file, therefore there is no reason for me to store an additional copy, something that would use up far too much disk space for my liking.
So what does PS Elements do differently? |
Wendy's wasn't a RAW file. She opened a JPG original in Elements and, apparently, when she did a save-as it slapped a "modified" tag on the original as well as created a new saved-as image...
R. |
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11/01/2009 05:59:25 PM · #37 |
Similar thing happened to me a year ago. I sent in the jpeg for validation, but because windows picture viewer was used to rotate the image to portrait orientation, the exif was changed. Luckily I had also shot those photos in RAW, and I sent the RAW in after wards. I have been shooting everything in RAW since.
Whats sucks about this DQ is that although we can all be very confident that this was an innocent mishap, and that the winning photo follows all other rules, the integrity of the rules must be maintained. |
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11/01/2009 07:11:45 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by rob_smith:
Can someone please explain this to me as none of the other answers on this thread seem to?
Personally I open RAW (NEF) files in Photoshop and save them as PSD files. Adobe Bridge saves an xmp file alongside mine with the RAW settings I used. Whatever I do in Bridge or Photoshop nothing happens to the original RAW file, therefore there is no reason for me to store an additional copy, something that would use up far too much disk space for my liking.
So what does PS Elements do differently? |
Wendy's wasn't a RAW file. She opened a JPG original in Elements and, apparently, when she did a save-as it slapped a "modified" tag on the original as well as created a new saved-as image...
R. |
yup, it was a jpeg, and it modified the original when I did a Save As. Now I only shoot RAW, and have had no problems with validations. :D |
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11/01/2009 07:25:24 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by rob_smith:
Originally posted by vawendy:
I think it was perfectly reasonable to expect that doing a Save As would leave the original image unaltered. And I also think it's reasonable to think that a viewer would never alter the original on the card. But all this has been discovered and talked about before. Why not put a link to this information? After my DQ I spent 3 hours searching for information wondering why I didn't have an original. I never did find the right threads -- you need to know what you're looking for. I repeat -- please SC, save people the time and frustration and make this information easily accessible! There are so many people who are trying to follow the rules but have no idea all the little ins and outs that can cause problems. This can be fixed! Add links to the threads that further clarify the rules! |
Can someone please explain this to me as none of the other answers on this thread seem to?
Personally I open RAW (NEF) files in Photoshop and save them as PSD files. Adobe Bridge saves an xmp file alongside mine with the RAW settings I used. Whatever I do in Bridge or Photoshop nothing happens to the original RAW file, therefore there is no reason for me to store an additional copy, something that would use up far too much disk space for my liking.
So what does PS Elements do differently? |
In my experience it does the same thing. I use the PS Elements Organizer to download RAW (NEF) files. When the NEF file is opened in Elements, it is first opened in Adobe Camera Raw where it creates an xmp file also. It is then opened in the editor where I save the file as either PSD or JPG. The NEF file is never changed or tagged as modified like an original jpeg is.
Message edited by author 2009-11-01 19:26:16. |
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