The 1x Reject Club - DPChallenge Forums

06/18/2009 08:31:46 AM · #1151

Originally posted by zxaar:

Why domp you take up membership here. It would be worth having a portfolio here at DPC.

Thanks, zxaar.

06/18/2009 08:39:06 AM · #1152

Originally posted by mpeters:

K_Fairbanks, After spending a little time looking through your photos--i'm impressed. The dance pics are fantastic and your dreamscapes are also excellent. If you're a 1x 'reject'... hmmm, I feel rather insignificant. :) Welcome!

Thanks, mpeters. I've been shooting pictures for a long time, so have had the advantage of a large archive. I'm a great fan of digital but don't have a grown-up digital camera yet. I have Cadillac tastes and no budget. I do own a nice view camera, though and a very nice scanner.

But photography is just a hobby nowadays. At this time, I spend more time working on Photoshop and web design than on new images. If I can ever get my hands on a good DSLR, I'll probably start shooting more photos. To be perfectly honest, I'm hoping to retire and can't afford the high cost of film and processing.

Thanks again for the kind words.

06/18/2009 11:41:55 AM · #1153

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

So what's your birth date? From looking at your photo, I think my statement is probably true of you. I re-joined 1X, but not because I have fans. I like the forums...and rejects are good for my blood circulation.

::sheepishly stares at toes:: Oh...that photo was taken by my Nikon hero, and I am the grateful to be the beneficiary of his VERY GRACIOUS skills in Photoshop. However, this morning, let us not speak of the sad truth of my age (or that my birthdate was on Tuesday), but rather the truth of the weight of your presence here. Our dear and treasured,

MPeters mentioned the wealth of your archive makes him feel rather insignificant. Strongly, I disagree! Mark knows I am one of his biggest fans, and to him I would say that we should all be excited of the opportunity presented here to us! Let's not be bothered with endless comparisons, but rather the opportunity to learn from the valuable education of a lifetime of experience!

Dance photography is so important because as a living art...Dancers have such a brief space in time to present the height of all their training. These photographs preserve those precious moments of artistic expression and make a living art...timeless. King, I would hope that all the wealth of your experience has been formalized into a book or a series. If so, then please tell us the name of it...and if not...then shame on you to speak of retirement! Rather...the time has come to get busy and write one! Inquiring minds want to know...all the steps and thought process that lead up to...The Presentation.

I'm happy to hear that you re-opened your 1x.com account. For this particular thread is not about quitting...but all about artistic pouting!

Well, that's my two cents for today.

P.S.

Ursula...don't you have a nice family of grizzly bears to go take a portrait of?...;-P

Message edited by author 2009-06-18 11:54:37.

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

06/19/2009 09:43:39 AM · #1154

PS - being able to post "rejects" here makes me a lot less angry about these rejections. I like that! :)

LevT

OM System OM-1

06/19/2009 10:32:46 AM · #1155

[quote=ursula]

wow, this one is very nice Ursula! How could they reject that?! In fact, to tell you the truth I like it a lot more than the one they just accepted from you, simply because it is very refreshing (not N-th hardly distinguishable variation on the same theme), and even if one would want to replicate this shot, I bet it would be rather hard :). So many highly repetitive shots getting published on 1x over and over again... It does not make me angry, but it makes me rather sad...

I wonder sometimes if I just submit again one of the photos which I already published there, would it be accepted again? Chances are it would, and people would congratulate me with my great creative success :)

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

06/19/2009 11:24:35 AM · #1156

Man sometimes your brain just plays tricks on you. My first interpretation of the thumb was a snow monkey with a fanny pack on its butt. :P

Message edited by author 2009-06-19 11:24:47.

06/19/2009 12:26:00 PM · #1157

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Man sometimes your brain just plays tricks on you. My first interpretation of the thumb was a snow monkey with a fanny pack on its butt. :P

...meaning it's not? I was about to congratulate Ursula on her monkey photo. I just have to start clicking through on thumbnails.

Oh, and that bison looks sooo comfortable--plenty of grass to eat and some relief from the heat.

Lovely photo.

Message edited by author 2009-06-19 12:28:25.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

06/19/2009 12:36:01 PM · #1158

The one thing I kinda dislike about rejects - I'll see stuff in screening that I really quite like, and vote to publish, only to never see it again. There was one the other day I was really looking forward to seeing published, and it appears it did not make it through. Now I don't get to see it anymore.

06/19/2009 01:10:25 PM · #1159

Originally posted by LevT:

[quote=ursula]

wow, this one is very nice Ursula! How could they reject that?! In fact, to tell you the truth I like it a lot more than the one they just accepted from you, simply because it is very refreshing (not N-th hardly distinguishable variation on the same theme), and even if one would want to replicate this shot, I bet it would be rather hard :). So many highly repetitive shots getting published on 1x over and over again... It does not make me angry, but it makes me rather sad...

I wonder sometimes if I just submit again one of the photos which I already published there, would it be accepted again? Chances are it would, and people would congratulate me with my great creative success :)

You should try it. It's been done before, the same photo being published more than once, although with slight variations. In one case the same picture was published 3 times, once in colour, once in b/w, and once in a sepia like treatment thing (don't quote me, I think I remember this from when I was on crew, but I'm not 100% sure).

:)

Added: I think you might be on to something though ... it seems to be much easier for "familiar" images to be published, "familiar" both in the sense of the viewer being familiar with the scene/subject (that's where the "European" flavour comes into play), and familiar in the sense that the image fits in with the perceived style for the particular photographer (like my flower pictures). I hope that makes sense.

What I don't like about this "familiar" thing is that it pidgeon-holes people, and makes for a more closed/boring site. If I am good at making flower pictures, I get stuck with flower pictures, and work that's outside of my so called normal or my perceived style is not as easily accepted. All the familiar pictures published may be comforting to the core membership, but it makes the site both more boring and more "exclusive", or closed to anything different. Oh well.

Not that DPChallenge doens't have similar tendencies. "Familiarity" is a biggy here at DPC - frequently the same (or very similar) pictures win public approval over and over again.

Message edited by author 2009-06-19 13:26:25.

06/19/2009 01:11:06 PM · #1160

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Man sometimes your brain just plays tricks on you. My first interpretation of the thumb was a snow monkey with a fanny pack on its butt. :P

You should stop using your brain. :P

06/19/2009 01:11:45 PM · #1161

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Man sometimes your brain just plays tricks on you. My first interpretation of the thumb was a snow monkey with a fanny pack on its butt. :P

...meaning it's not? I was about to congratulate Ursula on her monkey photo. I just have to start clicking through on thumbnails.

Oh, and that bison looks sooo comfortable--plenty of grass to eat and some relief from the heat.

Lovely photo.

It is a monkey! Who said it was a bison?

06/19/2009 01:14:00 PM · #1162

Originally posted by Melethia:

Yeah. You're right. I haven't had any time to screen in the last couple months, but in the past the same thing happened to me. Someone suggested that there be a folder for each photographer with their rejects, that they could make available for the general viewership (if they so wish). I think that would be a good idea. The folder is there already, just not visible to everyone, but I think it would be easy to make it an option for each photographer to make the folder visible or not. But I suppose that would go against the idea of "sublime" :)

06/19/2009 05:24:49 PM · #1163

Holy Cow!

Ursula...I thought for sure you had a very special photo here and a claim to fame with a rare photo of...

Click Here!

Oh! By the way...I found a photo of...::beams innocently::...Yanko's House!

06/19/2009 05:46:58 PM · #1164

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Oh! By the way...I found a photo of...::beams innocently::...Yanko's House!

I went over there to paper his house, but found no trees in the front yard.

06/19/2009 05:52:03 PM · #1165

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Oh! By the way...I found a photo of...::beams innocently::...Yanko's House!

I went over there to paper his house, but found no trees in the front yard.

Dang...let's cut his phone lines instead...that way he can't...Phone Home!

::runs...as

melethia has me banned from her thread::

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

06/19/2009 05:54:14 PM · #1166

LOL! Nah, you can stay. We'll keep the smelling salts handy. :)

06/20/2009 08:32:33 PM · #1167

A 1X member over on the 1X site just said that the 1X Reject Club is the saddest thing he'd seen. That really hurt my feelings and now my life has no meaning. Here's the entire post:

Andrew Thatcher wrote (click for original post):
Why don't the people who have a hard time getting to grips with being rejected start up a website called 1xrejects.com then everyone can see their work.

[to which I responded]
There is one. I'm a member:
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=863545

[to which Andrew replied]
Well thats just the saddest thing ive seen.

zxaar

06/20/2009 08:43:07 PM · #1168

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

to be frank, publishing on 1x is not one of the most challenging things to do either.
in fact if i have to rank publishing on 1x compared to hardest thing i have done or doing, i will only it is score of 1 out of 100 , if 100 being my hardest thing that i have ever done.

further having a page discussing about rejects is nothing to be ashamed of.
in fact it simply means that this site has much better forum blending compared to 1x. It seems people think they are friendlier enough to share it.

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

06/20/2009 09:03:04 PM · #1169

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

[to which Andrew replied]
Well thats just the saddest thing ive seen.

If this thread is the saddest thing he's ever seen in his life, then I applaud Andrew Thatcher. (He must not watch the evening news very much).

We all have the right to be who we are in this world (with or without Mr. Thatcher's permission). However, I do apologize if I've been overly playful.

Message edited by author 2009-06-20 21:22:22.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

06/20/2009 09:37:48 PM · #1170

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Oh! By the way...I found a photo of...::beams innocently::...Yanko's House!

I went over there to paper his house, but found no trees in the front yard.

Dang...let's cut his phone lines instead...that way he can't...Phone Home!

::runs...as melethia has me banned from her thread::

Phone lines? I don't have those either. I use a Speak & Spell gaffered to a turntable. The reception is good enough.

Message edited by author 2009-06-20 21:38:08.

06/20/2009 10:59:52 PM · #1171

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Oh! By the way...I found a photo of...::beams innocently::...Yanko's House!

I went over there to paper his house, but found no trees in the front yard.

Dang...let's cut his phone lines instead...that way he can't...Phone Home!

::runs...as melethia has me banned from her thread::

Phone lines? I don't have those either. I use a Speak & Spell gaffered to a turntable. The reception is good enough.

Which disproves...yet again...Mr. Thatcher's point...we are not sad...we are just completely HOPELESS! ;-)

1x.com provides value as a place of presentation. That's it! However, if our feelings are hurt upon rejection or snide comments, then that is no one's fault but our own...purely because we give them that power.

Thank you,

melethia, for providing this thread as a place to enjoy each other's work.

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

06/21/2009 12:31:56 AM · #1172

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

[to which Andrew replied]
Well thats just the saddest thing ive seen.

If this thread is the saddest thing he's ever seen in his life, then I applaud Andrew Thatcher. (He must not watch the evening news very much).

We all have the right to be who we are in this world (with or without Mr. Thatcher's permission). However, I do apologize if I've been overly playful.

It is very good to have fun. It isn't so good to be too serious about this internet stuff. Don't apologize, Mae, I think all of us love your playfulness! If we take ourselves too seriously, then ... hmmmm ... I don't know what :)

Hopeless is good too! ;P

pawdrix

Nikon D700

06/21/2009 08:44:27 AM · #1173

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by Kong_Fairbanks:

[to which Andrew replied]
Well thats just the saddest thing ive seen.

If this thread is the saddest thing he's ever seen in his life, then I applaud Andrew Thatcher. (He must not watch the evening news very much).

We all have the right to be who we are in this world (with or without Mr. Thatcher's permission). However, I do apologize if I've been overly playful.

It is very good to have fun. It isn't so good to be too serious about this internet stuff. Don't apologize, Mae, I think all of us love your playfulness! If we take ourselves too seriously, then ... hmmmm ... I don't know what :)

Hopeless is good too! ;P

Could someone point me to that thread at 1x?

eta: Their forum isn't that lively. There are only 4 threads that were active within the last 30 hours. I assume this thread gets more attention than their entire board so, why not come here to discuss?

My only issue is that nobody here says much that is helpful about the rejects in question. Personally, I'm not looking for criticism but I assume some people are, if they never or rarely get published and seriously wish to.

Message edited by author 2009-06-21 08:52:36.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

06/21/2009 08:58:20 AM · #1174

I figure if someone wants feedback on a rejection, they'll ask for it (and you're all welcome to do just that.) Otherwise I'll assume this thread is just to share and get a little sympathy with your whine. :-)