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06/10/2009 11:10:27 AM · #1101

I don't think Robert ever gets rejected, does he? :-)

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

06/10/2009 11:13:13 AM · #1102

Originally posted by Melethia:

I don't think Robert ever gets rejected, does he? :-)

When I left crew he had a ton of rejections! He just enters a ton of pictures too. :-)

hihosilver

Nikon D200

06/10/2009 05:33:14 PM · #1103

Originally posted by Ursula:

It is much better to shoot for yourself, not for a specific site. I mean, you always want others to appreciate and like what you do, but it has to be what you yourself love and see, or it won't work. Shooting for yourself at times seems to be interpreted as shooting to please yourself, and that's true, in a way - but I think it's a lot more than that. It's shooting from your own heart.

Originally posted by yanko:

If they accepted everything you entered over there or anywhere for that matter then that's when you know you've compromised too much. It's the same thing with friends. I rather have just one that totally gets me than a thousand who don't. Really when you get down to it showing off your photography is like the bait to finding people who do get you. Unless of course you're just in it for the money or there's a huge hole inside then you compromise like hell. :P

I wanted to put these two comments next to each other because sitting in the Peanut Gallery means spending alot of time trying to find divine inspiration and wondering where the UFO's are gathering for the next day's shoot. Will the weather be good...will the lighting be fantastic...or whatever it is that good photographers know that I just don't.

I cannot help but wonder is it possible that a photograph (like a painting submitted to an art association) is not accepted at 1x for no other reason than this single truth...JUST BECAUSE.

That's it...nothing less...nothing more...JUST BECAUSE!

So, I think we all should continue to submit for exactly the same reason...;-)

Message edited by author 2009-06-10 17:47:21.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

06/11/2009 12:43:56 AM · #1104

Very profound, Mae, and most likely very true. In fact, I did indeed submit one yesterday, "just because". Look for it in this space soon! :-)

dougi555

Nikon D800

06/11/2009 03:33:08 AM · #1105

4 recent rejections..................... (:

......and another one published here...... :)

Message edited by author 2009-06-11 03:40:22.

Citadel

Nikon D7500

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/11/2009 04:52:16 AM · #1106

Originally posted by dougi555:

......and another one published here...... :)

Wow....terrific image. I think that's one of the best woody shots I've ever seen.

dougi555

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

06/11/2009 05:13:30 AM · #1107

Originally posted by Citadel:

Originally posted by dougi555:
......and another one published here...... :)

Wow....terrific image. I think that's one of the best woody shots I've ever seen.

hehehhe, it's not actually a woody, it's a real crash test dummy, they have a few hanging here in a city centre park. I've used them several times;

Zigomar

Fujifilm X100T

Lensbaby 2.0

06/11/2009 08:15:51 PM · #1108

"Of those who voted against your image, five indicated that there is a problem with impact, three noted composition as a weakness and two selected light as a reason for not publishing the image."

Sony Sonnar T* 35mm F2.8 ZA

06/12/2009 01:41:55 AM · #1109

That's a damn fine image. Those who voted against it probably just don't like cats, or are incredibly jealous.

My latest submission for rejection is still hanging in there. I think rejections just take longer these days. I may not post it here right away, though - there's a chance it will be held in the "what can I torture viewers with for Free Study this month?" bin.

salmiakki

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

06/12/2009 02:41:00 AM · #1110

Originally posted by Melethia:

I think rejections just take longer these days.

I don't know about that Deb, mine still come through remarkably quickly, as they tend not to even make it to member screening.

06/12/2009 03:03:51 AM · #1111

Oh, that's true, Sarah. I did get a couple of "umm, nope" rejections pretty quickly. Haven't submitted anything in months, though.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/4.0L IS USM Lens

06/12/2009 10:19:24 AM · #1112

One more rejection :(

Comments:
* I Don't like the frame.
* This is a somewhat stale attempt at an overwrought subject: the mist or smoke coming out from between a hill full of trees.

Overwrought? Maybe if I got rid of the thermal features at Yellowstone, then my landscapes would look more civilized, more to the taste of the site. Maybe Yellowstone is plain too messy or wild for civilized 1X tastes.

Then again, maybe it's just not that good a picture. But I like it.

Rant:
Right now, I'm tempted to say some bad words! Like, "Those screeners are full of ......!" I often agree with those that say that there is a sort of different cultural perception, very European, where pictures that aren't "European" (whatever that is, but it IS), are simply dismissed because they are not understood. Maybe I'm full of it too. I don't know. But it sort of ticks me off that so many published pictures are so much the same, always the same style, always the same way of looking at things. Maybe it's "European sublime", who knows. Anyway. Rant over.

Message edited by author 2009-06-12 10:28:56.

Germaine

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

06/12/2009 10:45:27 AM · #1113

Originally posted by ursula:

One more rejection :(

... But it sort of ticks me off that so many published pictures are so much the same, always the same style, always the same way of looking at things.

Hmmmmm. Seems to me I've heard very similar language directed (correctly) at stuff here at DPC. 8) I guess it's all about finding what we like and some like-minded colleagues.

Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D IF

06/12/2009 10:54:12 AM · #1114

Originally posted by Germaine:

Originally posted by ursula:
One more rejection :(

... But it sort of ticks me off that so many published pictures are so much the same, always the same style, always the same way of looking at things.

Hmmmmm. Seems to me I've heard very similar language directed (correctly) at stuff here at DPC. 8) I guess it's all about finding what we like and some like-minded colleagues.

Ain't that the truth! :)

I like it though to be able to vent a little bit here and there.

pawdrix

Nikon D700

06/12/2009 11:11:04 AM · #1115

Rejected

06/12/2009 11:22:40 AM · #1116

Heh! If it were just "European sublime" I'd have more published. :-)

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

06/12/2009 01:23:38 PM · #1117

Ursula, while I'd say that last landscape was a little less stellar than most of your others, I don't disagree with you rant at all. I've basically only come away frustrated trying to get my own style accepted over there and I think it's probably doing more harm than good for me. While I do appreciate most of the stuff I see displayed on 1x, I don't really want to change to be like that.

Message edited by author 2009-06-12 13:24:02.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

06/12/2009 01:41:57 PM · #1118

Originally posted by ursula:

...Maybe it's "European sublime", who knows...

That's an interesting moniker for the 1x doozy. I'm not sure, the sought for sublime is explicitly European either. It's a sublime alright, and this alone is a little surprising considering it's 2009 and not 1909.

Some genres, i.e. reportage, street and conceptual, appear to be less effected by this adopted pattern than others, but even here preferences lean toward that which is more widely accepted rather than fostering uniquely individual takes on an evolving sense. This, in my view, is particularly true for conceptual work, a genre much better represented elsewhere and, ironically, in galleries and exhibits based in Europe.

1x, to my taste, is too preoccupied with aesthetics per se, the frivolous (forage the creative editing category for examples) and fine art cliches to be able to recognize and help new growth in any substantial way. Its season, I think, is fall -autumn would perhaps be the better word in the context: the views are crisp and sharp. The ground is woven with gold and burgundy, while the screeners attempt to wring lilies from acorns.

Message edited by author 2009-06-12 16:17:22.

SJCarter

Canon EOS-7D

06/12/2009 03:02:48 PM · #1119

Ursula: I hope you didn't take ANY offense at my comments - I did not in any way mean to say that I thought you received preferential treatment. I don't believe that at all. I think that perhaps the only link there is that (as

yanko so eloquently put it) you know what you love, and I don't see very many "bad" images from you, so I was using you as an example as the "top of the line". ;-)

It is very difficult to interpret "what" will go over well on 1x (very much like DPC) - WHEN YOU'RE SHOOTING FOR YOURSELF FIRST. I still agree with the message of following your heart first and then (if you're so inclined), shooting for a specific group of jurors.

I also still think that it is a very "European" audience, and that does not necessarily translate to USA photogs. Unfortunately, we in the USA are still quite oblivious (as a whole) when it comes to universal acceptance. I hope that continues to change for the better (and that the world will continue to accept alternative perspectives).

Boy, did this turn into more than I wanted to really say... HAHAHA

As always, please take my comments with a BIG grain of salt, pepper, sand, or glass (whichever you prefer). =-D

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

06/12/2009 04:04:11 PM · #1120

Originally posted by Melethia:

Heh! If it were just "European sublime" I'd have more published. :-)

:)

@Jimmy (

SJCarter), no offense taken whatsoever, don't worry :)

@

Zeuszen - that's what happens when you rant, you blame the first thing that comes to mind. Oh well. I would rather that 1X were Spring - since Autumn is my favourite season. Can you find a good way to describe them in Spring terms? Or maybe Winter. Cold, foggy, dreary, a bit overdramatic, stuff like that. I'm joking a little.

hihosilver

Nikon D200

06/12/2009 04:12:05 PM · #1121

Originally posted by ursula:

Hmmmmm...needs more PURPLE...;-)

::ducks and runs for cover::

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

06/12/2009 04:20:56 PM · #1122

Originally posted by ursula:

...Can you find a good way to describe them in Spring terms? Or maybe Winter. Cold, foggy, dreary, a bit overdramatic, stuff like that. I'm joking a little.

Spring should be frisky, daring, going out on a limb for a promise. A little rioting, too, to shake off sleep and the dead wood.
Winter? Preservation, black and white, too, much of nothing, little of anything else, sheer survival, reflection.

Isn't it the premise of youth to shake things up a little and
the experience of old age to realize the fragility of life and its institutions?
Or is it, with this generation, the other way around?

Message edited by author 2009-06-12 16:32:11.

06/13/2009 07:50:40 AM · #1123

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by ursula:

Hmmmmm...needs more PURPLE...;-)

::ducks and runs for cover::

HA! Yeah, you better run and duck! :)))))