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05/08/2009 05:48:29 AM · #1 |
I am looking for a high end compact P&S, must have manual and must be able to shoot RAW and must fit in pocket easily.
Zoom is not a huge requirement as it'll be used around town when I can't be bothered to carry the slr (which is rare!). Needs to be as wide angle as possible and I'd like HD video as I would use it rather than having a separate cam corder. I'd also like a remote if possible.
My conclusions were the Canon G10 (longer zoom & can use remote & can use my 580ex flash) vs Panasonic DMC LX3 (f/2.8 & HD video & sligtly wider @24mm equiv & more compact but no remote)
I've looked at loads of different reviews and 100% crop images and quality and noise seem about the same on both.
Are there any other models I am missing? |
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05/08/2009 05:53:33 AM · #2 |
I am also in search. I almost finalised G10 but it looks costly without HD clips support.
Panasonic DMC LX3 is looking really good! Thanks for pointing that out.. :)
Message edited by author 2009-05-08 06:02:48. |
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05/08/2009 09:19:34 AM · #3 |
In addition to asking here, try doing some side-by-side comparisons at DPReview.com. They also have a buying guide that allows you to do a features search.
Another source is Steve's Digicams, where he lists the best current models (in his opinion) broken down into categories such as compact and ultra-compact:
//www.steves-digicams.com/best_cameras.html
Btw, I loved my old Nikon Coolpix. But as a Canon user you'll probably want to stick with Canon. The menu structure etc. will seem more intuitive if you are already used to it. |
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05/08/2009 09:37:28 AM · #4 |
Yeah, DPReview.com rocks
I'm leaning towards the LX3 at the moment .. |
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05/08/2009 11:13:25 AM · #5 |
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05/09/2009 09:38:56 PM · #6 |
| Fuji prosumers are nice camera - bit on the grainy side in low light, and lack the RAW feature (in the more reasonably priced units). I think the latest is like the S2000HD. |
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05/10/2009 09:14:58 AM · #7 |
The LX3 is a wonderful camera. I have been using one since Feb., and I have not been this excited about a camera in many years. Come on over to the LX3 flicker group and read some of the discussions and view some photos. //www.flickr.com/groups/843626@N22/
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05/11/2009 01:26:08 AM · #8 |
I've just used my friend's LX3 yesterday actually, and I always have high standards when it comes to compacts...the main being that they are actually compact...sooo many companies have lost the plot when it comes to what can be defined as a small camera.
Anyway, some of the shots were looking great in the 10 mins I played around with it. |
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05/11/2009 08:29:29 AM · #9 |
| dd1989---post some of your photos if you can. |
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05/11/2009 09:16:46 AM · #10 |
Sorry for hijacking the thread (I've got Pillsbury Pizza Pops, and I'm not afraid to use 'em), but I am looking for a point 'n shoot that has widest angle available. I'm getting tired of lugging the SLR with the Tokina 12-24 all the time.
Any suggestions?
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05/11/2009 09:23:19 AM · #11 |
I did a quick feature search at DPReview -- it seems the widest angle for P&S is about 24mm. There's a Samsung compact that looks promising, also several ultra-compacts including the Leica D-LUX 4 and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 (review). Go to //www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp
Message edited by author 2009-05-12 10:47:04. |
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05/11/2009 09:31:09 AM · #12 |
The Panasonic LX3 might just be what you are looking for! Here is a little quick info:
The DMC-LX3 features a F2.0 24mm LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON lens, 10.1 mega pixels and an ultra-sensitive 1/1.63-inch CCD developed specifically for this model.
At the heart of the DMC-LX3, is its 1/1.63-inch CCD. Making the intentional choice to limit the number of mega pixels to 10.1 on its CCD, Panasonic was able to give more space for each pixel and also redesigned the peripheral circuits and other components to further minimize noise generation. As a result, sensitivity is almost 40 percent higher and saturation is increased by 35 percent, when compared to Panasonics 10 MP digital cameras, giving the DMC-LX3 outstanding image quality and a wide dynamic range, and meeting the demand for a camera that works optimally in low-light environments. The CCD is also capable of reproducing images in three aspect ratios 4:3, 3:2 or 16:9. The new Multi Aspect mode allows the camera to take an image in all three aspect ratios simultaneously, allowing you to choose the version that best suits their needs.
Another major upgrade to the DMC-LX3 is the F2.0 24mm ultra wide-angle LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON lens. The F2.0 is about twice as bright as a F2.8 lens and can shoot at higher shutter speeds to capture clear, blur-free images in dimly lit environments. In addition, the 24mm lens captures approximately a 213% larger viewing angle than a normal 35mm camera and 136% larger compared to a 28mm wide-angle lens. The lens unit consists of eight elements in six groups with four aspherical lenses with four aspherical surfaces. As a result of the F2.0 lens, the DMC-LX3 produces high resolution and minimal distortion and artifacts such as chromatic aberrations, ghosting and flaring.
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05/11/2009 09:43:48 AM · #13 |
Fuji200EXR might be a good choice IQ wise samples here
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05/12/2009 04:28:42 AM · #14 |
I agree with the people's suggestions. LX3 is your best among the current crop of point-and-shoot cameras out there. It has a great IQ and it's ultra-wide angle lens is absolutely a deal maker.
Cheers!
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05/12/2009 10:34:35 AM · #15 |
| if anyone decides to own a LX3---the problem will be locating one at a reasonable price. My LX3 was purchased off Amazon last Feb for $379.00 ---the same camera is over $600.00 now on Amazon! You have to search for a reasonable price point. |
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05/12/2009 11:11:27 AM · #16 |
| I've been really happy with the G10. I like the control layout and the fact that so much of it is on dials, rather than in menus. Takes pretty good pictures too. The waterproof case for $200 is great. |
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05/13/2009 08:20:00 AM · #17 |
| I just read that Dell is offering the LX3 for a good price, and they have them in stock too. |
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05/15/2009 02:02:11 PM · #18 |
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05/15/2009 03:52:03 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Gordon: I've been really happy with the G10. I like the control layout and the fact that so much of it is on dials, rather than in menus. Takes pretty good pictures too. The waterproof case for $200 is great. |
I think the whole menu layout thing is a serious drawback for almost any P&S. I love my SW770 for hiking and I even went so far as to buy my gf a SW1090 for her trip to New Zealand but the menu system is TERRIBLE! I need to go into several menus just to choose a shooting mode. My S9100, on the other hand is far more similar to an SLR and actually functions. If only there was something more durable/compact than the G10.
Anybody know why the LX3 is hard to get your hands on? |
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05/15/2009 04:08:12 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula: If only there was something more durable/compact than the G10.
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How about the new Canon D10?
waterproof already (no case needed) shock, temp and kinda jazzy lookin, too :-) I am tempted to get one. |
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05/15/2009 04:10:58 PM · #21 |
| The LX3 is very much in demand these days. I don't think Panasonic was prepared for the demand. Also, the fact that it is hard to locate is making it even more desireable to some. It is almost like there is a " cult following" for the camera--the blogs and forums I read are full of people wanting it. My LX3 was purchased as a gift for $378---it was a return item---on Amazon. When I first started looking at the camera on Amazon the price was $439.00 on sale, and then it shot up to $499.00--and now Amazon has it listed as $689.00!! I can't believe that! If you look around you can still find it at a much better price, but you may have to wait for it to come into stock and be shipped. I love my LX3. |
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05/15/2009 04:20:33 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by chromeydome: Originally posted by spiritualspatula: If only there was something more durable/compact than the G10.
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How about the new Canon D10?
waterproof already (no case needed) shock, temp and kinda jazzy lookin, too :-) I am tempted to get one. |
Yeah, I saw that when it was first announced. But it isn't realy all that similar to a G10. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the Canon equivalent of the SWXXXX? |
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05/15/2009 08:41:12 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula: Originally posted by chromeydome: Originally posted by spiritualspatula: If only there was something more durable/compact than the G10.
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How about the new Canon D10?
waterproof already (no case needed) shock, temp and kinda jazzy lookin, too :-) I am tempted to get one. |
Yeah, I saw that when it was first announced. But it isn't realy all that similar to a G10. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the Canon equivalent of the SWXXXX? |
Yea--it actually looks like the full auto, no raw G9 in there--but the G9 is a great camera, too. |
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05/19/2009 06:01:06 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by dagaleaa: I just read that Dell is offering the LX3 for a good price, and they have them in stock too. |
Do you have a link by chance? I've been searching and have emailed asking if they do indeed have them.
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05/20/2009 10:38:25 AM · #25 |
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