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 05/03/2009 10:58:55 AM · #1
I love images created with multiple exposures, such as flowers that have almost painterly quality. One person that comes to mind is Ursula, she seems to utilize that technique. Can anyone give any tips on how to do that?

Thanks

Message edited by author 2009-05-03 10:59:22.
 05/03/2009 11:02:47 AM · #2
I am very interested in suggestions as well, as I love those types of images too!
 05/03/2009 11:03:41 AM · #3
Without a sample image it's hard to know what you mean by 'painterly'. The technique could be very different from one image to the next.

If there's a specific image by Ursula, why not PM her and ask her how she achieved the image presented.
 05/03/2009 11:14:30 AM · #4
Ursula uses a macro lens with the aperture pretty much wide open to give very narrow DoF. She very carefully chooses her composition and plane of focus to give the results you see. She is an artist in the truest sense.
 05/03/2009 11:17:03 AM · #5
OK, here are come examples of what I am interested in





05/03/2009 11:19:24 AM · #6
Originally posted by kirbic:
Ursula uses a macro lens with the aperture pretty much wide open to give very narrow DoF. She very carefully chooses her composition and plane of focus to give the results you see. She is an artist in the truest sense.

I have a macro lens f2.8. I guess I need to practice my composition.
I also love this, which she states is multiple exposure

05/03/2009 12:06:30 PM · #7
I tried opening my aperature, using my macro, and I couldn't get that effect. I don't know what to do...
 05/03/2009 12:27:42 PM · #8
I'm relatively confident that Ursula would provide some additional detail if y'all asked... :-)
 05/03/2009 01:14:14 PM · #9
I know this is not as great as Ursula's but what do you guys think of this image?

05/03/2009 01:18:37 PM · #10
Originally posted by maggieddd:
I know this is not as great as Ursula's but what do you guys think of this image?


I think it is beautiful! You did a great job. What settings did you use? I just PM'd Ursula, so we will see what she suggests.
 05/03/2009 01:19:42 PM · #11
Sometimes I play with that sort of stuff, though nowhere near as successfully as Ursula does...



R.
 05/03/2009 01:38:37 PM · #12
Originally posted by bennettjamie:


I think it is beautiful! You did a great job. What settings did you use? I just PM'd Ursula, so we will see what she suggests.

180mm macro, f3.5, 2 exposures one focused on the first flower, second on the other flower, then combined the 2 and used masking to bring out a bit of details in the second flower
 05/03/2009 02:50:15 PM · #13
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Sometimes I play with that sort of stuff, though nowhere near as successfully as Ursula does...



R.

About the same for me ... single macro exposures all ...
05/03/2009 02:58:51 PM · #14
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but I posted how I did it in the photog comments if you are interested...

05/03/2009 03:24:17 PM · #15
I don't think I have it still...I tried though. There are more added to my portfolio, but I think this is the best one that fits, maybe???

05/03/2009 05:48:50 PM · #16
Ok ursula, my wife wants results like . Let me put it another way my wife wants ME to provide her results like that NOW... LOL, almost..
 05/03/2009 05:59:57 PM · #17
Here's a couple examples of my own. The first is an f/6.3, and the second a f/1.8.



These two photos don't really demonstrate this, but one tip I would give is, don't be afraid to shoot through things. Get your focus where you want it and in frame, then if you're using a tiny DOF, everything else will blur out on its own. Kind of like putting your finger in front of your nose and staring off in the distance. Or like a fence at the zoo. A lot of people think you can't get a good shot through a fence, but we all know the fence disappears. On the closer macro scale the objects between you and your subject become wispy dreamy blurs. Like the photo below, but on a macro scale.



Edit: Another tip... don't be afraid of a breeze.

Message edited by author 2009-05-03 18:01:13.
 05/03/2009 06:08:10 PM · #18
Michelle, my wife likes this , I have a 16-35 F/2.8L, a 50 F/1.4, and a 70-200 F/2.8L, what lens and what settings should I use..
 05/03/2009 06:25:04 PM · #19

This may be of interest to some of you. He had a 1-day workshop at our local camera club last year, and lots of people really "got into" his type of work.

05/03/2009 06:26:40 PM · #20
Originally posted by alans_world:
Michelle, my wife likes this , I have a 16-35 F/2.8L, a 50 F/1.4, and a 70-200 F/2.8L, what lens and what settings should I use..


The 16-35mm or the 50mm. That was shot with my 105mm and extension tubes. That flower was about the size of a dime, so it really depends on what kind of flower your shooting. You'll want to get in as close as you can to fill as much of the frame as possible, and then use a very shallow DOF. If there's enough going on in the shot you'll get the soft layers.

Maybe try finding a nice stiff stemmed flower with long petals and pray for a breeze... or have your wife blow very gently on the flower.
 05/04/2009 03:14:42 PM · #21
Originally posted by bennettjamie:
I just PM'd Ursula, so we will see what she suggests.

Have you heard from Ursula?
 05/04/2009 03:21:26 PM · #22
Originally posted by bennettjamie:
I tried opening my aperature, using my macro, and I couldn't get that effect. I don't know what to do...

Dramatic lighting is also a key component (at least in the images posted as examples prior to your post).
 05/04/2009 03:22:43 PM · #23
I am guessing that one exposure is slightly out of focus the other is focused correctly. Thats just a guess though
 05/04/2009 11:48:22 PM · #24
Originally posted by alans_world:
Ok ursula, my wife wants results like . Let me put it another way my wife wants ME to provide her results like that NOW... LOL, almost..


Hehe, that's funny! "Now" is not a word you use with wildflowers. There's such a narrow window of opportunity with them - they usually only bloom for a short period of time, and then you have to find the place and the right time of the day, and then it usually starts to rain or it's way too windy! Some flowers I've been waiting for years now to make a good picture of them, and so far haven't been able to!

Otherwise, wide open lens, camera on manual everything, meter on the flower petals, use a polarizer. Set your focus to about where you want it, manually, and move the camera in/out rather than the focus (does that make sense?). Then shoot right before you're where you want to be, by the time you press the shutter, you'll be there. It's like when you make panning shots, you get into the rythm first, with your whole body, like dancing with the subject, and then shoot right before you (and your subject) get where you want the picture to be.

I hope this helps at all.
 05/04/2009 11:51:51 PM · #25
Originally posted by maggieddd:
OK, here are come examples of what I am interested in





All four are straight shots, not doubles. Fritz (kirbic) has it right, macro lens wide open, pay a lot of attention to compo and what exactly you want to show (it helps a lot to think about it beforehand), and look for good light. In my case, I shoot exclusively natural light (to a large extent because I haven't been able to figure out how to use that stupid flash!).
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