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04/30/2009 10:31:00 PM · #1 |
| Can you clone out something like a traffic sign that might be peeking out above fence line in your image? Or say a large piece of trash that might have been on the ground of a image taken of children at play? I made up those 2 scenario's just to get an idea of some things that you could get away with in the advanced editing rule set. |
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04/30/2009 11:10:21 PM · #2 |
Maybe, and maybe.......it depends on the image and how big, and where etc etc.
A rule of thumb I have heard is that if it would not make it into an 100 word description of the photo, then you should be fine, but that is not gospel.
Best thing to do is to submit a ticket to Site Council that will get the opinion of a couple of the SC, who have much more knowledge in the rules and how they are applied then I do.........If you are submitting to the Free Study, you might struggle to get word back though |
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04/30/2009 11:38:24 PM · #3 |
| I've cloned out similar items in advanced, and seen examples posted by others showing even more major elements that were removed and validated. |
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05/01/2009 06:49:34 AM · #4 |
| That's what I figured. I ask a question about this before and someone told me that if it's not predominate in the thumbnail then it's probably OK. I just wanted to make sure. At the rate I'm going though it may take a while before I get in a position where anyone would ask for validation anyway. |
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05/01/2009 07:33:25 AM · #5 |
entry photo:  original photo:  is a desk in the background predominate? |
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05/01/2009 08:22:22 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by fldave:
entry photo: original photo: is a desk in the background predominate? |
Surely in this case you could remove the desk by dodge or burn rather than cloning in which case my understanding is that it would be ok
Mind you the rules says ANY tool eh...
Tough call
Message edited by author 2009-05-01 08:26:07. |
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05/01/2009 08:48:04 AM · #7 |
| I would agree with the DQ there... practically the entire background was obliterated. Regardless of what tools are used, it changes my basic description of a shelby that's clearly in a showroom to a shelby in a gigantic lightbox or something. It's pretty obvious an entire area was removed. Perhaps if it was blurred more you could make a better case for it, but IMO that one is pretty clearcut. |
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05/01/2009 08:51:40 AM · #8 |
An example I just posted yesterday for one of the side challenges:
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I think this would be legal in advanced. I cloned out the slight bit of the freeway that was poking in on the right edge and 3 poles sticking up out of the ground. (My cloning could have been better, I see a little bit of a repeating pattern)
Message edited by author 2009-05-01 08:53:26. |
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05/24/2009 03:29:30 PM · #9 |
How about the example below? Is this legal considering that the flower would be my main subject. Not the background fence.
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Message edited by author 2009-05-24 15:30:03. |
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05/24/2009 04:02:02 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Carlo21:
How about the example below? Is this legal considering that the flower would be my main subject. Not the background fence.
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The answer to this is probably, no since the original image is a flower in front of a fence. The edit would be a flower in front of nothing.
Best advice, be wary of the background before you click the shutter and not rely on editing to clean up the composition.
That being said, there are cases where the cluttered background can't be helped.
Message edited by author 2009-05-24 16:02:19. |
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05/24/2009 06:49:16 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Carlo21:
How about the example below? Is this legal considering that the flower would be my main subject. Not the background fence.
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The answer to this is probably, no since the original image is a flower in front of a fence. The edit would be a flower in front of nothing.
Best advice, be wary of the background before you click the shutter and not rely on editing to clean up the composition.
That being said, there are cases where the cluttered background can't be helped. |
I agree. My description would probably be "a flower in front of blue sky and some pipes or something." Now if it were just a couple inches of that vertical bar coming up from the bottom it would be a different matter. |
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