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04/25/2009 01:01:51 PM · #1 |
Hi all
I have just started shooting in raw format and I am trouble with the conversion from Raw to jpeg as the photos look so different and nowhere as sharp.
I have a Canon 400D and use PSC2 and also Digital Photo Professional but PS Sharpen is pretty bad and DPP seems to be better but it just smooth everything in conversion and its annoying.
Can anyone help me out or maybe another way to convert them?
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04/25/2009 01:33:13 PM · #2 |
Are you adjusting your photos in DPP before you export them to JPEG? RAW files look pretty flat in their native state.
I usually adjust the white balance first, then the picture style. (Usually I use standard, portrait or landscape). I normally leave contrast alone, since I do that in PaintShop Pro. Satuaration usually gets a bump up in DPP and I only apply a small amount of sharpening using DPP in most cases. Sharpening is usually done better in your image editor.
As far as sharpening in Photoshop afterwards, the thing to use is the "unsharp mask" adjustment. That gives you better control over it. Here is a tutorial on the subject, right here on DPC. This is where I found out how to do it better.
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04/25/2009 03:37:04 PM · #3 |
When you convert in DPP, it should be giving you the same results with regard to color as the out-of-camera JPEGs. DPP should understand the camera settings and apply them, unless you tell it not to. Photoshop (ACR) will not understand those settings, and you will have to adjust to taste.
If you can set the camera to record RAW+JPEG, do that and experiment. Compare your RAW conversions to the JPEGs.
The RAW files will need more sharpening in ACR since the in-camera sharpening setting will not be applied (not sure if DPP will duplicate it by default).
FWIW, I use Lightroom (same converter as Photoshop) and adjust to my taste. I don't at all miss the Canon "Picture Styles." |
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04/25/2009 10:48:16 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by subject22:
Hi all
I have just started shooting in raw format and I am trouble with the conversion from Raw to jpeg as the photos look so different and nowhere as sharp.
I have a Canon 400D and use PSC2 and also Digital Photo Professional but PS Sharpen is pretty bad and DPP seems to be better but it just smooth everything in conversion and its annoying.
Can anyone help me out or maybe another way to convert them?
Shaun |
Some great advice already offered, but another consideration is what color space you are using - sRGB or aRGB. If you are in s space, that's basically web colors and the images will be a tad sharper in .jpeg than in RAW. In a space, the color spectrum and saturation is broader and deeper - that could also be an issue when converting out of RAW.
Another issue you may be having is that Canon uses two different RAW formats - CIFF and CRW. While both are TIFF based formats (as are most RAWS with the exception of Olympus which is different as it is a straight RAW build) - you may be converting to the wrong standard - maybe - I'm not sure how Canon software handles that.
I do know that Photoshop and Paintship Pro handle each RAW conversion differently as some RAW files are based on TIFF and some not - that can be an issue. I noticed that with my Nikon D-40, there is a big difference between the RAW file and .jpeg and even .tiff. I don't use that camera much, but the few times I have used it and converted images out to work on them, it would seem that the RAW image is a little sharper than the comparison .jpeg.
Later,
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04/26/2009 08:39:34 AM · #5 |
Wow thanks guys for taking the time to reply..i have just check all my colour space on my camera and programs and changed a few things and will se how i go.
i would use Smart Sharpen in PS and it was really bad so will give the "unsharp mask" ago.
Thanks
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04/26/2009 11:18:49 AM · #6 |
| I STRONGLY recommend Camera Raw by Bruce Fraser it is an EXCELLENT book on the power of the RAW format and what it can do for you. |
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04/26/2009 11:21:22 AM · #7 |
| ok i might look that up ...thanks PGerst |
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