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04/01/2009 11:32:48 AM · #951

Originally posted by pawdrix:

Originally posted by zxaar:
there is some truth in what you said.
For example this photo

while growing up in india i had seen many women like this. To me its ordinary subject.

Yeah. I'm not as overwhelmed by that shot as the rest of the world. It's a great shot and she's an interesting looking character but I think people project far deeper meaning to that...and other images than they actually merit.

For years I've seen and been wowed by the second cigar smoking woman on that page until I realized she just scooped tourist dollars for a shot. My pal Sam told me she won't even put the cigar in her mouth unless you toss her some money first. There's no more romance or brilliance in that capture...just another tourist trap, type of thing yet it appears so culturally rich. Oh well...

eta: The war weary look on these guys faces carry more weight than most of the uber hokey scarf stuff we see, piled in one but again, people gobble that stuff up. That's what sets Steve McCurry in a class of his own. He finds the real thing and nails it where some people find models and recreate it. I could care less but what does concern me is that people can't see the difference or they simply don't care.

I think you have a valid point, a very sad point at that. It is so much easier to look on faces when they are from people far away, people we don't "really" have to relate to! Children with dirty faces, women in scarves, men with bad teeth, things like that, we don't have those, no, no, the illusion is that we are clean, free, and healthy. So we make and see these pictures, and call them "real life" (which they are at least in some cases), and we're glad that we don't have to really be part of that real life. And people in those real life situations learn to exploit the concept to their advantage (the cigar lady situation), and we keep falling for it!

But real life close to home is taboo.

It isn't all that way, but it sometimes seems that a lot is.

It goes beyond life/documentary/street photography. Nature photography is similar, in particular wildlife. We want to see the extraordinary shot of a wolf running through the snow, tearing into meat - rarely is it reality, but most of the time it is a trained animal posing for the photographer able to pay big bucks for the oportunity. Not that different than paying the lady with the cigar, except that in that case at least she gets some income - the wolf doesn't :)

04/01/2009 01:31:27 PM · #952

Originally posted by ursula:

It goes beyond life/documentary/street photography. Nature photography is similar, in particular wildlife. We want to see the extraordinary shot of a wolf running through the snow, tearing into meat - rarely is it reality, but most of the time it is a trained animal posing for the photographer able to pay big bucks for the oportunity. Not that different than paying the lady with the cigar, except that in that case at least she gets some income - the wolf doesn't :)

Trust me, I know. I have a very crazy, insane, stupid long list of things that don't impress me in the slightest. I'm not making a comment on the Cigar Lady or trying to deny her a living but laying out an indictment on the general viewing public. You can find this stuff everywhere...gov't/politics, music, media, business etc. I just wish people would wake up and stop getting scammed so easily. Again, it's not about the subject or the photographer but the viewer.

I mean, taking a sharp shot of Lions, Gibbons, Snow Monkeys, Leopards, Eagles etc. in a zoo, is bullshit compared to taking one in the wild. The patience, timing and overall skill it takes to capture real wild life is infinitely more difficult and it shows so clearly when you see the real deal. The zoo images are so sharp and so sterile compared the poetry that pours from things in their true setting.

Eta; Here's a strange zoo shot I got a few weeks back of a Snow Monkey attacking/defending against a Swan. That situation would never happen in real life, which is what I find so amusing and so cheesy at the same time. Two hours before you could have captured a pack of snow monkeys huddled tightly in the water with icicles in their hair. How many psycho sharp images of that scene have we all seen? Buy a ticket...bang!

Message edited by author 2009-04-01 14:46:03.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

04/01/2009 02:11:47 PM · #953

Originally posted by pawdrix:

I have a very crazy, insane, stupid long list of things that don't impress me in the slightest.

That list seems to be getting crazier, longer, and more insane with every post...

scarbrd

Leica M10

04/01/2009 02:33:39 PM · #954

Originally posted by pawdrix:

I mean, taking a sharp shot of Lions, Gibbons, Snow Monkeys, Leopards, Eagles etc. in a zoo, is bullshit compared to taking one in the wild. The patience, timing and overall skill it's takes to capture real wild life is infinitely more difficult and it shows so clearly when you see the real deal. The zoo images are so sharp and so sterile compared the poetry that pours from things in their true setting.

Or you can just buy a cruise ticket and set up on the comfotable patio they built over the river where the bears congregate and capture all the "natural" peotry servered up to you like hanging curve ball. The skill required here is stunning.

//www.alaska-cruise-vacations.net/Brooks_falls_bear_viewing.jpg

04/01/2009 02:45:12 PM · #955

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by pawdrix:
I have a very crazy, insane, stupid long list of things that don't impress me in the slightest.

That list seems to be getting crazier, longer, and more insane with every post...

No argument there ;)

Message edited by author 2009-04-02 12:14:11.

davidw

Canon EOS R6

04/02/2009 07:02:56 PM · #956

I'm just so excited...maybe I have a chance as a photographer yet! I got this one: //1x.com/v2/#photos/latest-additions/23807/

published on 1x...I'm at 50% - 1 published and 1 rejected!, but I'm afraid the only way that'll last long is if I never submit anything else...

04/02/2009 07:13:38 PM · #957

Congratulations! That's inside the bean in Chicago, right? You did that well. :)

davidw

Canon EOS R6

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

04/02/2009 07:18:34 PM · #958

Thanks, yeah, I had to get to the park really early, so there weren't any other people around. I really like the long early morning shadows and the warm dawn light.

halopes

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

04/03/2009 09:35:01 AM · #959

Rejected:

Well, it looks like I'll never make it again...

LevT

OM System OM-1

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

04/03/2009 01:14:19 PM · #960

Congrats to

pawdrix on another good work published!

on a sad note, looks like our favorite DPC "motif" does well there, too. no escape from water droplets! :)

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

04/04/2009 07:20:35 PM · #961

Originally posted by LevT:

on a sad note, looks like our favorite DPC "motif" does well there, too. no escape from water droplets! :)

You can run but you can't hide.

Funny thing, after I read your post I went to 1x and thought this was another drop but low and behold a very cool image.

Message edited by author 2009-04-05 11:06:48.

LevT

OM System OM-1

04/06/2009 08:23:46 PM · #962

another one from

pawdrix published. Steve, you are on a roll, congrats!

...and three more rejects for me

Message edited by author 2009-04-06 20:36:04.

04/06/2009 09:17:23 PM · #963

I put in 6 more yesterday (for a total of 15). One of the 6 was rejected fairly quickly, but the other 5 have been in screening for over 24 hours now. So I guess they got past the initial screener and got put out for the membership. We'll see.....

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

04/06/2009 09:57:38 PM · #964

Originally posted by chromeydome:

...So I guess they got past the initial screener...

Yea, HCB wouldn't get past him. It must have been his day off.

(Could be

ursula, for all I know). :-)

Message edited by author 2009-04-06 21:58:29.

04/06/2009 09:59:54 PM · #965

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by chromeydome:
...So I guess they got past the initial screener...

Yea, HCB wouldn't get past him. It must have been his day off.

(Could be ursula, for all I know). :-)

HCB?

04/06/2009 10:09:48 PM · #966

Originally posted by chromeydome:

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Yea, HCB wouldn't get past him. It must have been his day off.

HCB?

Henri Cartier Bresson

eta: Three Cheers For Ursula!!!
eta II: She'd know a Bresson if she saw one.

Message edited by author 2009-04-06 22:11:40.

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III

04/06/2009 10:10:54 PM · #967

Originally posted by pawdrix:

Originally posted by chromeydome:

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Yea, HCB wouldn't get past him. It must have been his day off.

HCB?

Henri Cartier Bresson

ah, thanks..... ;-)

colorcarnival

Olympus 45mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital

04/06/2009 10:23:11 PM · #968

rejection #6 :)

bvy

Sigma DP1x

04/06/2009 10:39:44 PM · #969

Originally posted by LevT:

another one from pawdrix published. Steve, you are on a roll, congrats!

Absolutely! For me, there's no competing with Steve, only learning from him. It's quite a portfolio you're building over there. Congrats again.

04/06/2009 11:13:59 PM · #970

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by chromeydome:
...So I guess they got past the initial screener...

Yea, HCB wouldn't get past him. It must have been his day off.

(Could be ursula, for all I know). :-)

:)

FWIW, I'm not screening at all :)

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

04/06/2009 11:44:48 PM · #971

2nd of the new 6 rejected, 4 to go.....

dougi555

Nikon D800

04/07/2009 02:45:03 AM · #972

5 more rejected in last week or so.......

Thta's me now at 6 published at 38(!) rejected, a hit rate if 14%..... Sad!

Scapeshots

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II

04/08/2009 12:43:26 PM · #973

latest reject...was in screening for a few days...

04/09/2009 10:48:24 AM · #974

Another casualty...

The only thing about this image is that some people think it's posed but this guy actually hangs out in the space, drinks lots of beer, smokes a ton, cranks up that little guitar to extremely distorted levels and yells at people who pass by. In this particular shot, he's saying hello to a passerby in his R&R way. An honest candid.

Personally, I think it kicks ass over some of the shots on the front page today BUT I may re-enter it with one of those wide, Vietnamese straw hats cloned to his head and replace the guitar with a goat or water buffalo. LOL

Message edited by author 2009-04-09 10:49:52.