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01/13/2004 12:56:43 PM · #51 |
or just more diffucult...
Originally posted by tfaust:
I have cable modem that's 1.5 years old in my closet and to my recollection it does not have a USB connection...
Edit: It's possible the ISP wants to discourage internet sharing and provides a modem where that is not possible... ?
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01/13/2004 01:03:09 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by soup:
i have never had to hook up a 2nd ethernet card in the PC, and have always used the RJ45 cable to link everything. if you can do it, you'll be happier in the long run with a router over internet connection sharing... |
I've you've never done it, how do you know it's better ? ;)
ICS is actually pretty simple too. The slightly weird thing I've noticed at least with windows XP is that the built in firewall setup actively recommends against doing the modem->hub->multiple PC connection solution - and doesn't give a very good reason why. I expect its because in that topology all of the shared folders go via the hub, which gives you one point of vunerability and it limits the internal firewalling that can be done in sw. Its probably mostly just MS BS though. |
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01/13/2004 01:11:44 PM · #53 |
You need adapter USB to LAN 155USB 20 To LAN texttext
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01/13/2004 01:16:22 PM · #54 |
| I think I'm aware of what you are referring to Gordon, and once I encrypted my network - they went away. |
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01/13/2004 01:33:57 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by tfaust:
I think I'm aware of what you are referring to Gordon, and once I encrypted my network - they went away. |
I don't use the built in firewall in XP anyway, but it just seemed strange that it recommended against what is the standard home LAN config, and recommended various less appealing solutions, like a gateway PC, or ICS peer to peer network - I guess these other arrangements depend more on MS software though... |
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01/13/2004 02:01:23 PM · #56 |
You need your modem with usb adapter (LAN) connect to LANorWAN on yours
Router (D-Link, Linksys, Netgear)They have Easy settup for network Broadband or DSL, and you need a network card on Each PC, or you can do waireles setup system A,B,or G=fast 54mb but 2.4MGZ, Theare one problem if you use wireles phone with2.4MGZ, or you can get new 5.8MGZ (A) system.
Sorry for my English. |
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01/13/2004 02:39:56 PM · #57 |
i dont know its better, but i dont like windows connection sharing.
and why buy an extra NIC card ( @ $20)? why have to deal with reboot issues on the host PC? with the router you have easier access to more usefull options as far as network config goes, its easy to add a 3rd or 4th pc for gaming, or file sharing, whatever...
most of the routers ( @ $40 ) have a built in firewall, but i would recommend purchasing a firewall software app rather than let microsoft protect your PC...
Originally posted by Gordon:
I've you've never done it, how do you know it's better ? ;)
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01/13/2004 03:17:19 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by soup:
most of the routers ( @ $40 ) have a built in firewall, but i would recommend purchasing a firewall software app rather than let microsoft protect your PC... |
I don't use the Microsoft firewall either.
I could be mistaken, but I understand that having a router IS your (hardware) firewall. You could add a software firewall in addition to this if you want, but most people I've talked to trying to configure the software firewalls have problems with their PC afterwards.
Edit: Remove a bunch of empty returns, add quote, fix bad spelling ...
Message edited by author 2004-01-13 15:19:09. |
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01/13/2004 04:15:59 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by mk:
I also have a BEFSR41. I've installed a number of Linksys routers and they're very easy. |
I agree the BEFSR41 is great and very reliable (been using it for years). Wireless is great too. Sitting on the porch drinking a cold beer with your housemates on a warm sunny day and being able to access the internet. Wonderful.
The network we have set-up here is insane!
D-Link Wireless (2 houses down the street) ---RJ45 cable over rooftop---> our D-Link Wireless ----> Zyxel Prestige 314 ----> Linksys BEFSR41 ----> DSL Modem |
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01/13/2004 05:18:51 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by tfaust:
Originally posted by soup:
most of the routers ( @ $40 ) have a built in firewall, but i would recommend purchasing a firewall software app rather than let microsoft protect your PC... |
I don't use the Microsoft firewall either.
I could be mistaken, but I understand that having a router IS your (hardware) firewall. You could add a software firewall in addition to this if you want, but most people I've talked to trying to configure the software firewalls have problems with their PC afterwards.
Edit: Remove a bunch of empty returns, add quote, fix bad spelling ... |
A lot of routers have firewalls built in, this doesn't mean that all routers are firewalls... |
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01/13/2004 05:56:07 PM · #61 |
no, and why i suggested purchasing a software firewall - like norton personal firewall...
its usually a NAT type firewall built into the routers at the prices mentioned in this thread. they arent all that effective...
i have been running nortons's for a while now, and havent had any trouble with the computer. actually have their utilities suite too, and it keesp the machine running tip top...
Originally posted by Gordon:
A lot of routers have firewalls built in, this doesn't mean that all routers are firewalls... |
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01/13/2004 06:15:05 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by chinstrap:
All you need are 2 network cards and a suitable length of UTP cable. You can get these without spending much cash.
Fit network card into your Windows XP and W2k Machines.
Connect UTP cable to network cards
Use the Windows XP Home Network setup Wizard.
You will need your Windows XP cd
Its a doddle
If you need anymore help let me know. |
Also make sure the cable is cat 5 and is a cross over cable. Cross over cables are used to connect hub to hub or computer to computer. They are about the same price but may be shorter because hubs are normaly close together.
Tom |
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01/13/2004 06:17:54 PM · #63 |
Thanks Gordon and soup - good info :-)
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01/14/2004 01:11:53 AM · #64 |
| Go here and you will have a wealth of information on sharing your BB cable/dsl beyond your wildest dreams: //www.dslreports.com/forum/sharing |
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01/16/2004 03:49:10 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by TomH1000:
Originally posted by chinstrap:
All you need are 2 network cards and a suitable length of UTP cable. You can get these without spending much cash.
Fit network card into your Windows XP and W2k Machines.
Connect UTP cable to network cards
Use the Windows XP Home Network setup Wizard.
You will need your Windows XP cd
Its a doddle
If you need anymore help let me know. |
Also make sure the cable is cat 5 and is a cross over cable. Cross over cables are used to connect hub to hub or computer to computer. They are about the same price but may be shorter because hubs are normaly close together.
Tom |
ooops! Yeh i forgot to mention that bit!
Thanks Tom
Mike
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01/16/2004 05:44:33 PM · #66 |
A Wee Update
Thought I'd show you know what I went for. Origo ASR-8400
I had great service from the company (E-Buyer), ordered it at 2.30pm on Tuesday, it arrived before 1pm the next day. Not bad for the distance it had to travel.
I plugged the router in, USB + Network cable, very easy to do, found the drivers on the CD that was supplied and that was it.
It asked for my username and password and then it connected to the internet for me.
I set my laptops to DHCP and they bot obtained IP Addresses and managed to access the internet straight away.
A good, low cost modem/router, would recommend it to anyone! |
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01/16/2004 06:21:42 PM · #67 |
| Good for you! Now have you checked to make sure you can transfer files between the two computers, share printers, play lan based games, etc? |
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