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Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/12/2004 04:12:58 PM · #26

Thanks to all of you, kind of cleared a few things up...

So, I'm going to need either a new ADSL modem, or an all-in-one gadget.

Anyone any preferences? (More questions...)

MikeO

Fujifilm x100

01/12/2004 04:16:40 PM · #27

Terry - this site is very helpful, you should find some pucker info there

//www.adslguide.org.uk/

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

01/12/2004 04:18:33 PM · #28

Just my $.02... I have a D-Link router, which has 4 wired connections as well as wireless capability. I have two PCs directly wired to it with three others using the wireless capability.

The router is connected directly to the DSL connection. I haven't had a bit of trouble with it (knock on simulated wood grain finish). It was quite easy to set up, and it has been very reliable!

01/12/2004 04:22:58 PM · #29

Originally posted by chinstrap:

Terry - this site is very helpful, you should find some pucker info there

//www.adslguide.org.uk/

Mike, thanks, some reading me thinks... :-)

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/12/2004 04:23:57 PM · #30

Originally posted by alansfreed:

Just my $.02... I have a D-Link router, which has 4 wired connections as well as wireless capability.

Thanks Alan, kind of thinking more for a dual option like yours now... Well, when Mr Paycheck comes in...

Message edited by author 2004-01-12 16:24:51.

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

01/12/2004 04:38:22 PM · #31

I'll also add that I believe I have seen a couple bundled kits at Costco stores that have both the router and one network adapter included in the kit. I don't remember exactly what it cost, but I do remember that it was much cheaper than what we had paid for the items separately.

soup

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/12/2004 04:42:05 PM · #32

i would skip the winXP deal altogether and spend the $40 on a 4 port router from either linksys, netgear. ( whether you need more than two or not. )
most are 4 ports ( 4 pcs can share the internet ) and one port for the modem. the internet goes into the modem, out to the router, and network cable goes out from the router to the computers. its a DHCP set up, which means the router takes care of organizing the network, not windows.

with windows connection sharing, the computer that acts as host always has to be on, and if it needs to be rebooted so do the clients. a pain in the arse from my experience.

01/12/2004 04:50:34 PM · #33

Originally posted by soup:

and one port for the modem. the internet goes into the modem, out to the router, and network cable goes out from the router to the computers.

The cable that comes from the modem is a normal small square, smaller than an ethernet port. It won't fit into a router. Think that I need to either get a new modem, or an all in one unit.

The only other cable is a USB one, it's been said that it's difficult to get a router with a USB port.

Message edited by author 2004-01-12 16:51:42.

Azrifel

Fujifilm X100VI

01/12/2004 04:50:55 PM · #34

Originally posted by sfalice:

You might want to reconsider wireless. I started out with cable networking a laptop and desktop. Six months later, I changed to the Netgear 4-port wireless described elsewhere in this thread. Laptops move around and so do I. It's tedious dragging the cable too.

There's nothing like participating at DPC from the poolside with your legs up a cold drink nearby smoking a big fat cigar (I don't but it does make a better picture). :)

So that's a me2. modem to wireless router to three pc's + laptop with a max of 99 connections. You do need to think about the security of the connection and logon, else your neighbour or a nearby wizzkid will share your broadband with you. :)

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

01/12/2004 04:56:20 PM · #35

Originally posted by brownt:

The only other cable is a USB one, it's been said that it's difficult to get a router with a USB port.

I think that's the main problem - all of the 'hub/ router' solutions people have mentioned only work if you can plug ethernet into the modem.

If you are stuck with the ADSL modem <- USB -> computer, a workable solution is to put another network card into the computer and use the internet connection sharing features - but it does mean the bridge computer has to be on all the time for the link to work.

a modem -> router -> ethernet+ wireless option is great if you can get it though - wireless is good enough for most transfers and a decent wire connection for heavy transfers makes the best of both worlds.

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

01/12/2004 05:04:05 PM · #36

I'll look out for a modem+router combo if I can, if not a new modem and seperate router is the other option.

Thanks to you all!

sleekr

Minolta DiMAGE A1

01/12/2004 05:08:43 PM · #37

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by brownt:

The only other cable is a USB one, it's been said that it's difficult to get a router with a USB port.

I think that's the main problem - all of the 'hub/ router' solutions people have mentioned only work if you can plug ethernet into the modem.

If you are stuck with the ADSL modem <- USB -> computer, a workable solution is to put another network card into the computer and use the internet connection sharing features - but it does mean the bridge computer has to be on all the time for the link to work.

a modem -> router -> ethernet+ wireless option is great if you can get it though - wireless is good enough for most transfers and a decent wire connection for heavy transfers makes the best of both worlds.

This is the setup I have - Cable Modem, plugged into a network card in my PC. Another network card in the same PC, attached via crossover network cable to the network port in the laptop. WinXP on both, so very simple to set up Internet Connection Sharing.

brownt, you'd have it even easier, as your modem is USB, so you'd just need 1 network port in the PC, not 2 like mine.

True, the Internet Host PC needs to be on for the Client PC to have access, but in our case, this is no real problem (both PC's are on pretty much continuously).

This really is a very simple solution.

cvt_

Canon EOS-20D

01/12/2004 05:15:00 PM · #38

Does the apple notebook have wireless?
eitherway.

I'd reccomend grabbing a wireless card for the desktop and a wireless pcmcia (any brand, dlink are prolly the best).
Now, get ADSL working on the desktop, and share it across the wireless.
set the wireless up as peer-peer, and you'll be set.

that way you can save the $$$ on getting a AP/router.

if you later want to connect to the other notebook, either, get a wireless card for it and an AP (then get a adsl router) or you could just hood up with crossover ethernet, and bridge the connections on the desktop..

while I'm on that, if the mac runs os10 its unix, and theres prism drivers that let you run there cards in host mode, which would avoid the need for a AP all together.

another idea (mentioned) is just hook it up, and hook the computers together with crossover ethernet.
with cat5 you should get 100 meters easy.

The desktop would then have to be on whenever u wanna use the net.
to avoid that, go a wireless AP.
I reccomend a wireless adsl/router as they have both ethernet and wireless, so your upgrade options are wide open.
when buying wireless don;t let superG (108Mbps wireless) influence you, 54G is way more than u need and better that superG

the cheapest option is crossover cable.
$10 of cable, and if ur missing a NIC int he desktop, $15 for that.

(didn;t read other replies, just posted)

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

01/12/2004 05:40:25 PM · #39

Originally posted by sleekr:

True, the Internet Host PC needs to be on for the Client PC to have access, but in our case, this is no real problem (both PC's are on pretty much continuously).

Don't want to have to leave the main computer on, the laptop would be downstairs, I'd get my bum kicked for using power when it wasn't needed.

The router is, I'm sure, the way I want to go.

tfaust

Canon EOS 80D

01/12/2004 05:48:41 PM · #40

You don't need to run a Windows Network setup unless you want to share the computers AND the broadband connection.

I also recommend the wireless option. If you're going to buy a router now, you might as well get wireless technology - you never know - in 6 months you might use it, especially if you already have a lap top. I run 3 computers (1 wired, 2 wireless) on my router, I also have a network set up between them. Share hard drive and printers. Works great.

From my recollection, Mac laptops have had the wireless card built in for years...

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/12/2004 06:23:31 PM · #41

Originally posted by tfaust:

From my recollection, Mac laptops have had the wireless card built in for years...

It's called AirPort Extreme. I use it.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

01/13/2004 03:04:26 AM · #42

Right, got my thoughts into gear (Actually dreamt about a router last night....)

Had a look this morning and found this. Netgear DG834 4-Port ADSL Router

Any thoughts?

visitor

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

01/13/2004 05:29:08 AM · #43

I use a Westell 2400 4 port router.

I bought it from //www.broadbandstore.co.uk and Greg Walton the owner is very knowledgable and helpful.& the service is good too.

HTH

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

01/13/2004 06:09:30 AM · #44

Just had a word with someone who recommends the Ebuyer 4 Port ADSL Modem Router

Everything built in (NO wireless though). Cheap too, Â£46.99.

Think this is a good cheap way to go.

TechnoShroom

Canon EOS-30D

01/13/2004 06:39:31 AM · #45

I took a look at ebuyer's rating at reseller ratings and the US portion of the company seems to be a little hit or miss. //www.resellerratings.com/seller1463.html I think I would be careful shopping with them and make sure everything is in stock, paperwork is correct, etc when you place an order.

Poison IV

Fujifilm FinePix S5700

01/13/2004 06:48:54 AM · #46

//www.adslguide.org.uk/
everything you ever need to know about broadband, with diagrams

Originally posted by brownt:

I finally got broadband the other day (At last!), I have two computers, one desktop (Win2k) and one laptop (WinXP).

I'd like to share broadband access on both machines, but not 100% sure on what I need.

I've got an ADSL modem, no other visable connections on the modem, just USB to connect to the computer and a normal telephone cable.

I looked at a router at the weekend and several ethernet ports on it (Well. looking at the pictures on the box) and I couldn't see one that would let me connect the modem to it.

Does anyone have the solution for me?

Any help would be great!

P.S. Don't want to use a wireless system... Cabling will do fine for me.

Thanks!

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

01/13/2004 08:58:37 AM · #47

Originally posted by TechnoShroom:

Thanks for that.

Read through a few of the comments on their site, will have a further look into it though.

soup

Canon EOS-30D

01/13/2004 10:46:55 AM · #48

i have been through a half dozen both cable and ADSL modems, and all of them have had the USB, and ETHERNET option on the back.

seems wierd your's doesnt...

i have never had to hook up a 2nd ethernet card in the PC, and have always used the RJ45 cable to link everything. if you can do it, you'll be happier in the long run with a router over internet connection sharing...