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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/13/2009 12:36:17 PM · #628

Originally posted by Dan_Cottle:

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oh come on that is NOT fair.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

03/13/2009 12:37:01 PM · #629

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

Originally posted by Dan_Cottle:
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oh come on that is NOT fair.

Heh. I'm skeptical, but I'm marking his name down to check up on post-challenge :)

Dan_Cottle

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

03/13/2009 12:38:18 PM · #630

haha ok
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honestly i didn't think it was going to do this well

WriteHeart

Canon EOS-40D

03/13/2009 12:39:11 PM · #631

Originally posted by CindyG:

My score keeps going down, but finally people are commenting on the photo instead of just the subject matter. Now I at least know why my score is below a 5. :)

At first I didn't agree with the first few people that stated what they didn't like about my image - I thought it looked great on my monitor. But after the 5th person made the same comment, I finally went back and played with the photo again. And they were all correct on their assessment, although I do think that it shows up quite differently on some monitors. I liked the photo before, but I like it better now that I've made some changes to it. So while I am disappointed in my score, I do appreciate the honest feedback.

I don't know if I commented on yours yet, but thanks for saying this. There have been so many upset people about comments, I have seriously considered going back and erasing my comments. I am not the best person to comment on pictures, but sometimes I feel that I do have constructive comments. I am learning a lot here and want others to learn too. However, it seems that every time I comment on photos that garner lower scores from me, someone complains about my comment. I try to be very nice and respectful, noticing what I like about it, but still I feel that I have offended them (as shown by their response). The scores reflected that I was not the only one who saw it, just one of the few who said anything.

So, now I agonize over every comment to see if it can be taken wrong. It probably takes me 2-3 times longer to leave a comment since I am constantly re-wording it. Anyway, thanks for showing how a comment can assist a photographer to get better. I know that every single comment I have received is teaching me something, especially those with critique and direction in them. I love them, but see why so few people leave them anymore.

I cherish every comment I receive. As you can tell by my score, I really need it (yes, the picture deserves this score :-)
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Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

03/13/2009 12:42:52 PM · #632

Originally posted by WriteHeart:

Originally posted by CindyG:
My score keeps going down, but finally people are commenting on the photo instead of just the subject matter. Now I at least know why my score is below a 5. :)

At first I didn't agree with the first few people that stated what they didn't like about my image - I thought it looked great on my monitor. But after the 5th person made the same comment, I finally went back and played with the photo again. And they were all correct on their assessment, although I do think that it shows up quite differently on some monitors. I liked the photo before, but I like it better now that I've made some changes to it. So while I am disappointed in my score, I do appreciate the honest feedback.

I don't know if I commented on yours yet, but thanks for saying this. There have been so many upset people about comments, I have seriously considered going back and erasing my comments. I am not the best person to comment on pictures, but sometimes I feel that I do have constructive comments. I am learning a lot here and want others to learn too. However, it seems that every time I comment on photos that garner lower scores from me, someone complains about my comment. I try to be very nice and respectful, noticing what I like about it, but still I feel that I have offended them (as shown by their response). The scores reflected that I was not the only one who saw it, just one of the few who said anything.

So, now I agonize over every comment to see if it can be taken wrong. It probably takes me 2-3 times longer to leave a comment since I am constantly re-wording it. Anyway, thanks for showing how a comment can assist a photographer to get better. I know that every single comment I have received is teaching me something, especially those with critique and direction in them. I love them, but see why so few people leave them anymore.

I cherish every comment I receive. As you can tell by my score, I really need it (yes, the picture deserves this score :-)
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You've hit the nail on the head why we'll never, ever see people giving more comments on lower votes even though there is this grass-roots movement to force people to do so.

If I have any advice for you, it is to ignore the complainers completely. If you read a PM and it is in any way negative about your comment, simply delete it and move on. If it becomes too much, there is always the 'baghead' option, and you can hide your identity during voting for any commenting you do.

Keep on keeping on, and don't let the whiners get to you.

nibbles

Nikon D70s

03/13/2009 12:54:06 PM · #633

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Wish

i knew it woudnt score well,but holy smokes.......tyvm for the comments,its just fantastic...i even love the negative ones....if we didnt get any of those how would we know that a picture is wrong or just plain pants!!
thankyou dp'ers luv ya.

basssman7

Nikon D500

03/13/2009 12:58:18 PM · #634

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Originally posted by basssman7:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

I'm sure that many, many people also get favorites based on personality as well.

Without a doubt, that is another reason. ( except for me cause I am an asshat sometimes ;) )

Yah, me too. Only 20 faves for me. I'm too outspoken.

One more now! :)

Yo_Spiff

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

03/13/2009 12:59:24 PM · #635

Very slowly inching up toward a 5.5. That probably means I will get hit with some 1's and 2's very soon.

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I wonder if we can encourage some of this commenting effort to stick around after this uber-challenge is over?

basssman7

Nikon D500

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

03/13/2009 01:03:36 PM · #636

Originally posted by CindyG:

I know what you mean there. I had a situation last week. I created what I thought was a great image, that had a black background. I got a second opinion on the photo from a couple people, and they did not have a calibrated monitor. What on my screen was a nice black background, had a purple streak on one section on their monitors which were not calibrated and a bit too bright. So I had to fix an issue with a photo that I could not even see! After all that and re-submitting it, it still just barely got over the 5 mark, so it was not worth the extra effort.

However the point is that your image will look different to some people, so cover all your bases. (even when your monitor is calibrated like mine is, I know that some people would have a brighter monitor and they would see the problem)

Steef

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 400mm f/5.6L USM

03/13/2009 01:04:02 PM · #637

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I love getting this many comments, I just wish there were a few more negative ones. I know this pic could be better.

gaurawa

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/13/2009 01:04:49 PM · #638

This is definitely the most comments I have received during voting. at 50 comments now. I need to go back and comment on the pics in the challenge, I want to comment more than I receive.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

03/13/2009 01:07:11 PM · #639

Originally posted by basssman7:

Originally posted by CindyG:
My score keeps going down, but finally people are commenting on the photo instead of just the subject matter. Now I at least know why my score is below a 5. :)

At first I didn't agree with the first few people that stated what they didn't like about my image - I thought it looked great on my monitor. But after the 5th person made the same comment, I finally went back and played with the photo again. And they were all correct on their assessment, although I do think that it shows up quite differently on some monitors. I liked the photo before, but I like it better now that I've made some changes to it. So while I am disappointed in my score, I do appreciate the honest feedback.

I know what you mean there. I had a situation last week. I created what I thought was a great image, that had a black background. I got a second opinion on the photo from a couple people, and they did not have a calibrated monitor. What on my screen was a nice black background, had a purple streak on one section on their monitors which were not calibrated and a bit too bright. So I had to fix an issue with a photo that I could not even see! After all that and re-submitting it, it still just barely got over the 5 mark, so it was not worth the extra effort.

However the point is that your image will look different to some people, so cover all your bases. (even when your monitor is calibrated like mine is, I know that some people would have a brighter monitor and they would see the problem)

I edit on an increased gamma color profile for JUST this reason! It allows me to make sure that any editing I do (especially spot editing), will not show up on brighter monitors. One of the most common things I see are people that edit on monitors that are too dark submitting images that show all kinds of editing (like big dark brush strokes in backgrounds) issues on a calibrated or near-to-calibrated monitor. It can really damage a photo.

basssman7

Nikon D500

03/13/2009 01:07:36 PM · #640

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

I agree. However I keep asking the question (into the wilderness of DPC, where it simply echoes around and never gets heard) as to why everyone is not a baghead during the voting stage? You are not supposed to contact the commentor and bitch or even ask a question about the photo because it may effect your vote. The photo is supposed to stand on it's own. So then why even make it possible for this to happen? There is no upside to having identities available during the voting stage. The photos are presented without names, the votes are given without names, the comments should be too. (until after the challenge voting is over of course)

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

03/13/2009 01:07:58 PM · #641

Originally posted by basssman7:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Originally posted by basssman7:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

I'm sure that many, many people also get favorites based on personality as well.

Without a doubt, that is another reason. ( except for me cause I am an asshat sometimes ;) )

Yah, me too. Only 20 faves for me. I'm too outspoken.

One more now! :)

W00t! Melethia, it seems, snuck one in on me too. Time to reciprocate!

Ja-9

Nikon D750

03/13/2009 01:11:05 PM · #642

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gaurawa

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/13/2009 01:13:33 PM · #643

Originally posted by gaurawa:

This is definitely the most comments I have received during voting. at 50 comments now. I need to go back and comment on the pics in the challenge, I want to comment more than I receive.

make that 51 comments now

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

03/13/2009 02:00:30 PM · #644

Originally posted by WriteHeart:

There have been so many upset people about comments, I have seriously considered going back and erasing my comments.

Please don't. As long as you are stating your honest opinion, then no one has any cause for complaint -- if they don't like the comment, it's their problem, not yours. Also, those comments are not just for the photographer, but for the rest of us to learn from as well.

In fact, any response during the voting period which attempts to influence your opinion or is abusive is a violation of the rules -- you can report the PM in a ticket to the SC (under the Help > Contact Us menu) if you wish.

Message edited by author 2009-03-13 14:01:51.

mpeters

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

03/13/2009 02:08:52 PM · #645

Pretty incredible-- 53 comments! Thanks!

I think this breaks my personal best for comments received during a challenge. My former best was in voting during the challenge that was only open to those who had given more comments than they received.

I'm almost to 100 given...

Simms