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03/08/2009 03:07:26 PM · #1 |
I have been looking at getting an inexpensive backdrop stand. I found this kit, which isn't cheap, but considering it has three backdrops isn't bad:
What do you think? Anyone order from this place yet?
//cowboystudio.com/product/c15/p15-08.php
Here's the specs for the $198 system
Option 2: support system M901
* Height is adjustable from 4ft to 8ft 6in
* Maximum width is 10ft
* Cross bar consists of four sections, making it simple to adjust the width
* 5/8â female sockets at each end of the cross bar, allowing you to use the cross bar on any light stand
* Light stands use quick single action locks, providing fast precision height adjustment
* Light stand footprints are wide to provide extra stability
* Holds muslin, paper, or canvas
* Disassembles quickly and easily to fit into its carry case
* 1 year warranty
# Carry case
* Case is made from heavy duty material, with pockets to fit the components of the background support
# Muslin background
* 10' x 13'
* Colors are white, black, and Chroma Key green
* Made from durable muslin material
* 100% cotton to absorb the light and help eliminate reflection
* Completely seamless; made from one piece of material
* 4" pocket on one end to hang on background support
* Machine washable; allow 5-8% for shrinkage
* Crimped along the edges to prevent tears
* Light-weight
* Easy to fold
Message edited by author 2009-03-08 15:38:52. |
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03/08/2009 05:34:51 PM · #2 |
| No opinions? Ok, I think I'll just bite the bullet and go for it! |
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03/10/2009 11:14:37 PM · #3 |
Wow, looks like a lot of band for the buck, Neil. Do let me know how you like it!
David Hobby recommended this one on his lighting DVD. But it's just a foldable background - you still need a stand and clamps.
Me, I currently use large swaths of cloth draped over whatever's available, like doors or couches, so either would be a big step up. =) |
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03/10/2009 11:28:34 PM · #4 |
| I can't really speak to the value/quality of either the setup or the company; however, I will throw this in. I bought a backdrop stand and I really wish I had bought one that was a telescoping crossbar (I don't know if I'm explaining that right). Mine is in three pieces. Two is too small and three is slightly too big - I wish I could just whittle it down a bit to fit in my spot perfectly. ARGH!! |
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04/02/2009 09:58:38 AM · #5 |
 nshapiro, how do you like it? I'm looking for a backdrop stand as well, though I'm going to need something a bit less expensive than this kit, and I'm only looking for one white background to start with. Is this pretty stable/portable? I need something that is going to be sturdy and easy to set up by myself. Would love to hear your review of this product.
ETA: Actually, something DIY like this might do the trick for me: PVC Stand. And another here.
Message edited by author 2009-04-02 10:17:33. |
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04/02/2009 10:28:11 AM · #6 |
| I recently purchased from B&H BACKGRND SUPPORT SYSTEM 12' w/BAG for $99.95 + shipping. It works well. Not heavy duty but well worth the price. I also purchased a backdrop Slate Gray Tie-Dye Muslin Background - 10x12' for $64.95 + shipping. Comes with a case and is real nice. I did a photo shoot yesterday (head shots for new city council members) and it all worked perfect. Very professional. I would recomend both. I also use Calumet Genesis 200 2-Light Kit which is also geat for the price. |
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04/02/2009 10:28:30 AM · #7 |
I have two - one from savage (about $110) with a telescoping bar that iv'e had for years and I just got one from midwest photo (lumapro brand) that has a 4 piece bar setup. it was 109.
the 4 pc system as the advantage that it won't self-collapse if you 'stretch' the background on it to get out wrinkles -the tele type is hard to get a BG stretched on - it hangs and that's about it.
the taller the better IMO. 8'6" isn't very tall. 10' is more what you need (from experience)
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04/02/2009 10:35:01 AM · #8 |
//www.tubetape.net/servlet/the-11/Backdrop-Support-%26-Light/Detail
This one has the telescoping pole. I believe this is the same stand that Slippy got with the package he ordered, you could ask him how he likes it. |
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04/02/2009 10:51:35 AM · #9 |
Overall, the kit does it's job and was a good value.
Pros:
Inexpensive, and complete. Does the job, and gives you three muslins.
Cons:
For the kit I bought, the 4 section cross-bar is put together by inserting the end of one into another, and then twisting. That locks it. BUT: while that locks it from being pulled apartt, there's nothing to keep it from twisting and unlocking on its own. Which is what I fear could happen as you insert the bar through the end of a muslin.
The stands on the particular model extend very tall. But I'm not sure the locks are good; at least for the top section, if you push down on it, it will move. My regular lightstands lock completely, and you can't do that with them, so I think these locks, while being serviceable, aren't as good.
Summary:
That being said, I actually think it would be better to go for the three section crossbar, "no pro" kit from this vendor. I'd check into how the crossbar locks on that one. Or go for something else.
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04/02/2009 01:08:14 PM · #10 |
you don't put the bar through the muslin, you use it like a clothesline and get some big spring clamps from home depot. a lot easier and works as well or better.
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04/02/2009 01:49:39 PM · #11 |
I've found that I don't use my muslins outside my studio much, and that the support stands take up too much room in my little studio. I hung a bar from the ceiling, but then found that amount of time that I spend during a portrait session trying to change the muslins back & forth was becoming uncomfortable.
I just ordered a ceiling curtain track from Konnect International and really really hope that I don't regret this. If anyone has experience with a ceiling track I'd appreciate hearing about it, and I'll write about my experience after it arrives & I install it. |
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04/02/2009 04:13:57 PM · #12 |
I got my track from Denny's and it was a bit more costly that the link you posted (comparing their medium stuff -hell, even their HD stuff is less than Denny's) - good find there I think. I googled like crazy and everyone was about the same price - it's essentially the same track used in hospitals to pull the curtain around the beds.
You'll want to get //tinyurl.com/cenud5 from denny - it lets you put the BG on the track clips wihtou grommets or other fasteners. it's the one thing i couldn't find elsewhere (it comes with the denny track)
i have 6 BGs hung on my track and it's damned nice!
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04/03/2009 09:12:08 AM · #13 |
Yay! My track arrived - I'm so glad to hear you like yours, Prof_Fate. I agree that the clamp idea is sound (or at least I hope so!); Konnect has their own version here:
clamp
which I ordered, as it sounded a heck of a lot easier than installing grommets!
I'm installing it today & tomorrow, and will post back.
eta: dang, denny's is expensive! Do you buy your muslins from them as well?
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04/03/2009 10:06:47 AM · #14 |
i get most of my muslin from //www.coleandcompany.com/ but I got my sports backgrounds from another company (part of program you buy into).
What's neat about their's is they're custom, scenic like but they're cheap, $150 for a 5x6 foot. What's cool is they're fleece blankets which I can get for $60 through my lab (same supplier for both). Can't wrinkle, machine washable, and cheap for a custom BG. Not super huge, but for babies or senior head type shots or sports image it's perfect.
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04/03/2009 11:21:58 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
I have been looking at getting an inexpensive backdrop stand. I found this kit, which isn't cheap, but considering it has three backdrops isn't bad:
What do you think? Anyone order from this place yet?
//cowboystudio.com/product/c15/p15-08.php
Here's the specs for the $198 system
Option 2: support system M901
* Height is adjustable from 4ft to 8ft 6in
* Maximum width is 10ft
* Cross bar consists of four sections, making it simple to adjust the width
* 5/8â female sockets at each end of the cross bar, allowing you to use the cross bar on any light stand
* Light stands use quick single action locks, providing fast precision height adjustment
* Light stand footprints are wide to provide extra stability
* Holds muslin, paper, or canvas
* Disassembles quickly and easily to fit into its carry case
* 1 year warranty
# Carry case
* Case is made from heavy duty material, with pockets to fit the components of the background support
# Muslin background
* 10' x 13'
* Colors are white, black, and Chroma Key green
* Made from durable muslin material
* 100% cotton to absorb the light and help eliminate reflection
* Completely seamless; made from one piece of material
* 4" pocket on one end to hang on background support
* Machine washable; allow 5-8% for shrinkage
* Crimped along the edges to prevent tears
* Light-weight
* Easy to fold |
This is the exact one I was going to get but I bought my husband a camcorder instead. His needs were more important to me but I liked the pricing at cowboystudio for sure. |
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