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02/18/2009 02:03:22 PM · #1 |
 Can anyone help me figure out why this would get : 4 one's 5 two's 14 three's & 58 fours
not one comment to help me see what I did wrong. I just want to learn from my mistakes !
Thanks- Pat |
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02/18/2009 02:15:33 PM · #2 |
It scored 5.0000, ended up in the middle of the batch. An average result for an average image.
- Crop is too tight on the left. The dog is looking out of the frame
- Lighting looks bland, as if you lit it with a tungsten bulb
- The colours/tone looks wrong - On my screen it looks like a monochromatic brown colour.
- Glare (bright spots) on nose and around eyes. Catchlights would be nice, not glare.
- Shadow under his chin gives the impression you used on-camera flash
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02/18/2009 02:17:47 PM · #3 |
Hey  patio127, i`m not experienced and i was looking at some of your work and i think you have great skills to take animal's photos. I just think that this shot doesn't make me say "wow" and the flash made me see it as a snapshot...i'm really sorry if i was rude, but i just compared your other shots to this one. And your comment at the shot said everything...
PS: i don't agree with the one's and the two's
Message edited by author 2009-02-18 14:18:26. |
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02/18/2009 02:19:02 PM · #4 |
I totally agree with the critiques you have received so far.
However, the super low votes may or may not have anything to do with it - even really excellent photos often get those insanely low votes. Don't even bother trying to see rhyme or reason behind them. |
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02/18/2009 02:23:16 PM · #5 |
You did nothing wrong.
It's a perfectly decent portrait of your dear old friend & companion.
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02/18/2009 02:31:36 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
You did nothing wrong. |
Be helpful! This is NOT TRUE. Every one one of those items listed by JH is absolutely accurate, and they are all technical issues which can be remedied. Come on man, you know better. |
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02/18/2009 03:16:44 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by patio127:
Can anyone help me figure out why this would get : 4 one's 5 two's 14 three's & 58 fours
not one comment to help me see what I did wrong. I just want to learn from my mistakes !
Thanks- Pat |
The eyes typically are the most important element in a portrait. If your objective was to convey "unconditional love", then ask your self, does this photo convey that? One of the comments during voting was that your dog looked sad. I tend to agree.
This is an example of what I mean by the eyes as an important element in a portrait.
Regardless, you still received both a 9 and a 10 plus 22 - 8's. Not bad for this particular shot. I would personally dismiss the 1's and 2's.
Message edited by author 2009-02-18 15:20:05. |
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02/18/2009 03:26:29 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
You did nothing wrong. |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Be helpful! This is NOT TRUE. Every one one of those items listed by JH is absolutely accurate, and they are all technical issues which can be remedied. Come on man, you know better. |
Okay.....
The bottom line is that it's never a good idea to enter an image that has you emotionally vulnerable.
That image certainly is on no level Top 10 image, and I think the OP knows that.
It is a perfectly passable representation of her dear friend, and the fact that she wasn't able to make it into an award winning image doesn't lessen that.
This is a tough crew to please from the photography angle so feelings and emotions have no place in the challenges.
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02/18/2009 04:29:09 PM · #9 |
Thank you all - this is extremely helpful- very much appreciated & I leaned a few things.
Vert important lesson which NikonJeb pointed out - don't leave yourself vulnerable entering a shot which is emotional to you.
Aside from that, having the technical issues pointed out is invaluable to me- thanks . Pat |
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02/18/2009 04:52:45 PM · #10 |
Have added another
I try and avoid any shot that has things I am passionate about. Hence my 14 year old Puppy who probably is not long for the world did not get shot. I have a couple of great photos of her anyway. Spending 4 hours washing, drying, brushing her for this shot was not going to happen (She is a Long Haired Poodle/Terrier Cross - Think Long Haired black Maltese/Big ball of Fluff).
Always, the photos I love tend to get a lower score than i thought because others see things in them i don't.
Anyway, as I said in my comment, try and reshoot again using the hints and tips gained from this. Its one thing to be told what was wrong/what to change, its better to go back and try and do it. I sometimes reshoot for myself a similar image and apply the lessons learnt. Post the result for us then to see the improvement |
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02/18/2009 05:56:48 PM · #11 |
the eyes being framed the way they are doesn't do you any favors - IMO - looking out of frame at a weird angle ( looking out of frame isn't always a bad thing... ) - but here is sort of weird.
crop is very tight - making the photo look like a random snap rather than a 'portrait'. you had to know the competition was going to be tough - no ?
i always try to get below the animals head when trying for a portrait type shot. i understand that maybe that wasn't possible in your case - but the looking down aspect likely didn't help you either...
i thought about entering this shot of our kitten and backed out... had i entered it - i think it would have fared as well as your entry... animals are hard to shoot.
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02/18/2009 06:05:20 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
You did nothing wrong. |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Be helpful! This is NOT TRUE. Every one one of those items listed by JH is absolutely accurate, and they are all technical issues which can be remedied. Come on man, you know better. |
Okay.....
The bottom line is that it's never a good idea to enter an image that has you emotionally vulnerable.
That image certainly is on no level Top 10 image, and I think the OP knows that.
It is a perfectly passable representation of her dear friend, and the fact that she wasn't able to make it into an award winning image doesn't lessen that.
This is a tough crew to please from the photography angle so feelings and emotions have no place in the challenges. |
Jeb, this person is asking for help to further be able to compete better on DPC. In that context, she has done quite a number of things wrong, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with emotional attachment. This thread isn't about sparing feelings, it's about doing what the OP asked people to do, give her critique and suggestions on how to improve for the DPC crowd. It does not serve her in the slightest to say "You've done nothing wrong", not in this case.
I know that the OP has touched on this already, but I felt it deserved further pounding into the ground, not just for Jeb, but for everyone on this site that continuously just pats people on the head even when what they need is more than that.
Message edited by author 2009-02-18 18:07:03. |
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02/18/2009 06:06:31 PM · #13 |
Nothing wrong, just nothing great. Look through the entries, there were at least 100 pictures like this one, and another 100 replacing the dog with a cat. I like the out-take you have in the picture information. That picture showed the dog in his environment; I think I also should have taken my own advice on this challenge.
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