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02/16/2009 12:34:27 PM · #677

Originally posted by paulbtlw:

Originally posted by silverscreen:
My latest published picture just posted on 1x:

Barbiere

And it's in color :)

I have to say, that is pretty damn fabulous!!

Thanks a lot :)

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

02/17/2009 02:31:57 PM · #678

I think I'm done with 1x. Not sure what else I have to offer them...lol.

I had a few rejects, which I'm fine with but I think the rest of my work, technically, might not be up to snuff. One thing I've found that if images are technically flawed, the message or strength of the image has to way overide those issues, to make it through screening.

On another note, this image really suprised me. It does have some feeling but honestly it looks like a "burning disaster". Like, if you recall the first images you learned to dodge and burn. A kid with a new toy. Maybe it's just personal taste but the use of the technique seems amateur to me and I wasn't happy to see that one on the front page. Any thoughts?

This DPC image bothered me the same way but it was the trend at the time so I forgave the photog and wrote it off as a "Ribbon Chaser" type of pp. A little tacky, imo but again, just an opinion.

Message edited by author 2009-02-17 15:26:18.

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

02/17/2009 02:36:07 PM · #679

Pawdrix, it is more or less a complete toss of the dice assuming a shot has the technical basics going for it. Different screeners, different tastes, etc. An exhibition juried by a schizophrenic.

And I say that as a big fan of the site, from a content point of view at least...

Message edited by author 2009-02-17 17:17:02.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

02/17/2009 02:40:37 PM · #680

But you were on such a roll, Steve... :-)

Tastes differ. I liked the mutated overburned one - kind of a fairy tale kinda thing. Not to be mistaken for a pure photograph, but that's the artist's choice, I'd imagine.

And Stefan, I LOVED your shot! One of those I wish I'd taken.

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

02/17/2009 02:50:03 PM · #681

Originally posted by Melethia:

That type of overprocessing used to appeal to me a bit when I was a noob but after a while I saw it as a "bells and whistle" kind of trick that easily grabs beginners, as processors and as viewers. What I find funny is how I look back in complete horror at my own work that was "over neatimaged", "overburned", "Gothic Tortured"...you know the deal and watch the same stuff getting raves elseware. Pretty painful seeing people lavish abused images, with high praise, especially after killing many of my own shots with such great ease.

It's really easy to do...just push every slider 3 points past your first thought. If your burn requires four strokes...hit it with six. Run Neat Image twice, then oversharpen. I should write a tutorial. (LOLOLOL)

I was hoping 1x was safe zone. Oh well...

;)

Message edited by author 2009-02-17 14:56:57.

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

02/17/2009 03:05:37 PM · #682

Originally posted by pawdrix:

On another note, this image really suprised me. It does have some feeling but honestly it looks like a "burning disaster". Like, if you recall the first images you learned to dodge and burn. A kid with a new toy. Maybe it's just personal taste but the use of the technique seems amateur to me and I wasn't happy to see that one on the front page. Any thoughts?

I really don't like this kind of editing, and personally I don't find it creative at all! But different people like different things. You learn to live with it, or whatever. :)

02/17/2009 03:20:47 PM · #683

Originally posted by ursula:

I really don't like this kind of editing, and personally I don't find it creative at all! But different people like different things. You learn to live with it, or whatever. :)

I was going to edit my post and say that I was kidding/exagerating...slightly.

There have been a few up in the last week that didn't blow me away in the slightest. I suppose the first week I was a member (three whole weeks ago, lol) I ripped through 1000's of images and was really knocked over. Maybe now, I'm just staring at the front page a little more and need to get back to digging deeper.

Also, keeping things in perspective, if one or maybe three images don't rock my little world that's still pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of an entire site.

Keep in mind, I refused to pay an entire check on a dinner for six because I found a sub-par, green bean on my main course plate. The audacity!

Message edited by author 2009-02-17 15:24:39.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS

02/17/2009 03:25:09 PM · #684

I find there are several a day that aren't my thing, but I can appreciate the work that it took to get there. I also see several in screening that I think should be there but never show up. I like the diversity and variety. Takes more than one style to make the world go 'round.

And I'm on an odd editing kick. I've never really done a lot past basic curves and not enough sharpening, so lately I've been doing the "push the boundaries" kinda thing. I'm sure I'll grow out of it in time. :-)

ursula

Fujifilm X-T2

02/17/2009 04:41:41 PM · #685

Originally posted by pawdrix:

Originally posted by ursula:

I really don't like this kind of editing, and personally I don't find it creative at all! But different people like different things. You learn to live with it, or whatever. :)

I was going to edit my post and say that I was kidding/exagerating...slightly.

There have been a few up in the last week that didn't blow me away in the slightest. I suppose the first week I was a member (three whole weeks ago, lol) I ripped through 1000's of images and was really knocked over. Maybe now, I'm just staring at the front page a little more and need to get back to digging deeper.

Also, keeping things in perspective, if one or maybe three images don't rock my little world that's still pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of an entire site.

Keep in mind, I refused to pay an entire check on a dinner for six because I found a sub-par, green bean on my main course plate. The audacity!

Bummer! Now I feel slightly tricked! :) Still, it won't make me like that kind of editing. I really don't like it. But that is very much just my personal opinion. To me it just looks totally fake. Oh well :)

Olympus 17mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko

02/17/2009 05:55:23 PM · #686

Originally posted by ursula:

Ha!

I'm not into fake anything unless you're drifting into digital art which is another story. Purple, Orange...Martian Red Skies don't float my boat.

Generally speaking, if an image is strong, subject-wise and well taken you shouldn't need all that junk to make it appealing.

I have a few that I grunge-up and add a sepia filter to, to try and re-capture New York of the 60's-70's or the way I remember it. Outside of that, I try to let images stand on their own and have been drifting that way for a while now. A majority B&W with a little voodoo on occasion to keep with my 60's-70's theme going.

Message edited by author 2009-02-17 18:09:30.

ubique

Olympus PEN-F

02/17/2009 06:38:59 PM · #687

I like 1x. I initially submitted 3 & had one published, two rejected. The two rejects were very 'quiet' images, the accept was much more striking visually.

Then as an experiment I tried two more, both of which I knew were technically modest, and both rejected.

My accepted image was the most visually impressive and the most unequivocal of the five, but it was also the shallowest in terms of sensibility.

I'll submit some more there. If I could have one published every two months or so, I'd feel I'd done very well. I don't feel at all dismayed by the rejects. 1x is like a gallery with a movable feast of curators (like one of those sushi bars). And you're eating blindfold.

ETA:
This was accepted & published:

and these were rejected:

and then

Message edited by author 2009-02-17 19:48:15.

02/17/2009 09:28:23 PM · #688

Well, that'll teach ya to listen to me. And I gave you my personal guarantee, too.

I just had three rejects in a row (I think). Which is fine but even like DPC you'll see things get culled to a far, far lesser degree to meet mass appeal. Once things move to general voting it's inevitable but overall the crowd at 1x is pretty hip and better versed than....well, other places.

Some of the rejection comments still leave me smacking my head but my guess is they aren't nearly in the majority...so, hope is alive.

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

02/17/2009 10:52:05 PM · #689

I started out 7 out of 8 getting published but now I am at 7 out of 11. The site now sucks. :P

02/18/2009 09:19:10 AM · #690

Originally posted by yanko:

The site now sucks. :P

Yeah, right?

Honestly, I will be a little pissed if I get a rejection on the image I plan on entering as soon as my next slot opens. For personal reasons, plus I think it's a strong image.

I've been looking at Thomas Doering's nudes and have become envious of the space he has to work in. A month back I did a nudie shoot in a small NYC apartment, living room which sucked. The images came out fine but I couldn't move my lights back (or up high) where I wanted them and getting distance with certain poses wasn't easy either. It's really annoying working with limitations that make shooting harder than necessary but that's the story with almost every single job I do. I have a few more shoots getting booked now and I'm praying the spaces will be bigger.

Message edited by author 2009-02-18 09:36:15.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

02/18/2009 10:51:09 AM · #691

I'm trying to post a photo straight to critique but it doesn't seem to want to head over there. I can do this right? Critique it before I submit for publishing?

silverscreen

02/18/2009 11:00:59 AM · #692

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I'm trying to post a photo straight to critique but it doesn't seem to want to head over there. I can do this right? Critique it before I submit for publishing?

I believe that's only if you are a paying member...

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

02/18/2009 11:36:46 AM · #693

Originally posted by silverscreen:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I'm trying to post a photo straight to critique but it doesn't seem to want to head over there. I can do this right? Critique it before I submit for publishing?

I believe that's only if you are a paying member...

Ah, I see, so it's straight to the slaughter then... :)

senor_kasper

Nikon D800

02/18/2009 12:39:28 PM · #694

This one got published with the following comment:
Of those who voted against your image, three indicated that there is a problem with motif and two noted impact as a weakness.
Perhaps it needed more blood, sweat or a meaner expression on the aggressor.

De Sousa

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

02/18/2009 12:40:46 PM · #695

Published works: 5
Rejected works: 2 (First Reason: Size, Second Reason: Border & others)
Acceptance ratio: 71%
Upload slots: 7
Free slots: 7
Unique views: 37308
Average views: 7462

There's something at 1x that I hardly believe. I've not been very active (that means not appearing at front page) but I keep growing the average views nearly 100 a day (that means nearly 500 unique views a day).

How can it be?
Do you have a similar experience?

Iraklis

Nikon D90

02/18/2009 12:51:58 PM · #696

Originally posted by senor_kasper:

Ha...impact I think it has...congrats man!

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

02/18/2009 01:01:19 PM · #697

Originally posted by De Sousa:

There's something at 1x that I hardly believe. I've not been very active (that means not appearing at front page) but I keep growing the average views nearly 100 a day (that means nearly 500 unique views a day).

How can it be?
Do you have a similar experience?

Fewer images, higher quality, your guaranteed to be on the first couple of pages for a few days so easily 'found'. Average shot tends to rack up 3000-4000 hits while in the first 3 pages of latest additions. Nudes an easy 15000-16000 clicks in the same period. This is just my experience.