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12/23/2008 01:17:48 PM · #1 |
In a challenge to which the basic editing applies it states that one may not combine multiple captures in-camera.
OK, my question is: Am I allowed to use a single capture and with my photo editing software create a -1EV and a +!EV image and combine those 2 images with the original image in Photomatix to then combine them into one image again.
In other words I am creating 2 "pseudo" images from the original out of camera which I combine with the original and then tone map. I would not have broken the rule because I did not use bracketing in-camera to create 3 images. In fact my entry would comply would it not as it is made from a single capture as required and I created 2 extra images out of camera with photo editing from that single capture to then blend them all together again into 1 image. All out of camera. Reading the basic rules I cannot see in anyway that I would be breaking any rule.
Thanks, looking forward to some enlightenment here.
Jan
Message edited by author 2008-12-23 13:28:05. |
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12/23/2008 01:31:17 PM · #2 |
| Not allowed in Basic - in essence, you'd be using layers with data by combining several exposure versions of the same photo. |
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12/23/2008 01:38:48 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Not allowed in Basic - in essence, you'd be using layers with data by combining several exposure versions of the same photo. |
Thanx, but are you 100% sure that is the way to interpret it?
Message edited by author 2008-12-23 13:40:41. |
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12/23/2008 01:40:26 PM · #4 |
IMO you are not breaking rules.
You would be basically using the same exact photo. As long as you don't do anyting selective to any of the photos.
Check on it though! |
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12/23/2008 01:42:03 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
IMO you are not breaking rules.
You would be basically using the same exact photo. As long as you don't do anyting selective to any of the photos.
Check on it though! |
Here is what it says about layers in Basic editing:
"use only Adjustment Layers (or their equivalent). An Adjustment Layer is a special type of layer containing no image data that lets you experiment with color and tonal adjustments without permanently modifying the pixels. Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode"
Would I be breaking that rule by doing what I explained I wanted to do? I am in fact only changing the exposure of the original by +1 stop and -1stop
Message edited by author 2008-12-23 13:44:06. |
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12/23/2008 01:44:38 PM · #6 |
Glad2BADad is right. You can only have use one 'pixel' layer in your photo, presumably this would be your photograph. All other layers must be adjustment only: curves, hue/sat, levels, etc...
I speak from experience... :)
eta: As a side note, tonemapping isn't legal in Basic either. :(
Message edited by author 2008-12-23 13:45:39. |
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12/23/2008 01:47:51 PM · #7 |
Photomatix (and equivalents) are not permitted in Basic, see this thread. In addition, the layering of multiple exposures (of the same capture) is prohibited by this line of the rules (emphasis added):
Originally posted by Basic Editing rules:
You May... use RAW conversion software as long as the changes are made globally to a single file on one layer and do not create new features or effects in the process. |
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12/23/2008 02:11:53 PM · #8 |
| Do it anyway...who's gonna know? ; |
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12/23/2008 02:19:47 PM · #9 |
what you are asking to do isn't legal. in order for your two adjusted exposures to do what i presume you're intending to do - would require selective editing ( masking part of one out so the other shows through ).
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12/23/2008 02:27:31 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Do it anyway...who's gonna know? ; |
He will and I presume he's not a cheater so... he probably won't take your advice. :) |
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12/23/2008 02:30:17 PM · #11 |
Looked at that thread that was recommended and it says there that Photomatix is not allowed. Clear enough. The rule as stated in Basic Editing seems a bit vague though and open to incorrect interpretations. Maybe they should edit the rules a bit to make it more clear.
In any case..I will not do what I wanted to do with my entry and will just make do with the allowed basic editing then.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions to all.
Jan
Message edited by author 2008-12-23 14:33:37. |
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12/23/2008 02:32:18 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Do it anyway...who's gonna know? ; |
I've done it for hundreds upon hundreds of my challenge entries. Nobody's ever spotted it and I'm sure they never will, either.
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12/23/2008 02:33:47 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Mr_Pants:
I've done it for hundreds upon hundreds of my challenge entries. Nobody's ever spotted it and I'm sure they never will, either. |
We haven't even spotted hundreds upon hundreds of your challenge entries. |
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12/23/2008 02:39:28 PM · #14 |
What about shadow and highlight control in basic editing? I see in that thread that was recommended that there is some controversy on that issue too.
Message edited by author 2008-12-23 14:45:49. |
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12/23/2008 03:09:19 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Manic:
Photomatix (and equivalents) are not permitted in Basic, see this thread. In addition, the layering of multiple exposures (of the same capture) is prohibited by this line of the rules (emphasis added):
Originally posted by Basic Editing rules:
You May... use RAW conversion software as long as the changes are made globally to a single file on one layer and do not create new features or effects in the process. |
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I read that entire thread and now i am even more confused as there is no concensus reached in that thread about tonemapping or about shadow and highlight in basic editing. |
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