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12/15/2003 03:11:16 PM · #1
I'm kind of guessing nobody will know for sure, but figured I'd ask anyway.

I'm currently trying to stitch some 360 degree panoramics using source images (scanned from 35mm film) that are approximately 9.5"x14" at 300 ppi. These are for print at 12" tall by however long (about 6 feet I think), hence the size.

So far, I've found that either (a) the software I've tried can handle the files but is a little amateur in execution (doesn't allow the control I want so the "final" image has more flaws than I want to work with) or (b) the software has all the bells and whistles I could ever want and gives me the flexibility I'm demanding, but chokes on the image size (or doesn't use my system's memory well enough) before it can actually save out the final image.

Some quick info:
Have tried PanoTools and PTGui -- after about 3 hours of rendering, it hit some kind of out of memory error just before it hit the final save
Have tried Image Assembler -- similar problem though I don't remember exactly what it was
Have tried a number of other programs, didn't give me the editing capabilities I wanted

120GB hard drive, 1GB RAM, 1.7Ghz equiv. machine

Anybody have any ideas, apart from using the stats created in PTGui to warp the images manually in Photoshop and put it together by hand?

Thanks in advance.

Message edited by author 2003-12-15 15:12:18.
12/15/2003 03:40:34 PM · #2
You could try the panorama factory. I used this on a panorama from the top of Mt. Rainier (my boss climbed up and took the photo). The resulting image (stitched 6) is 2700 x 13500 px. At 300 DPI the print size is 9" x 45". We had it printed from DPC prints and the results were stunning.
12/15/2003 03:46:02 PM · #3
I'm rather surprised that PanoTools choked. The Panotools engine was used to construct the "1 gigabyte image" referenced in a previous thread. I've put together images about half as big as you are attempting on a sub-1GHz laptop with 256MB of main memory and a 20GB hdd.
I would try to figure out why PanoTools is choking, as far as I know it is the only program that will save for you in layered .PSD format.
12/15/2003 04:41:02 PM · #4
Doesn't Photoshop CS do this?
12/15/2003 04:49:53 PM · #5
PanoTools was not used 'straight' to construct that 1 Gig image (if you read the article you'll see that the author used custom tools)

My suggestion - break it in 3 parts. Stitch a left, middle (with overlap) and right with overlap scenes

[xxxxx]
...[xxxxxxx]
.......[xxxxxxx]

And then overlay them all in photoshop. Use Panotools and PTGui to
render layers with masks, and then drop it all together.

Photoshop CS has change the image size limitations up by about 100x
from previous versions.

Although, the problem could well be that you just don't have enough disk space, if PTGui was generating an out of memory error - how much free contiguous space do you have on your disk ? Have you defragmented it recently ? (if not, you might not have much virtual memory space...)
12/15/2003 04:52:27 PM · #6
What out of memory error did PT Gui give you, and how fragmented is your HD ?
12/15/2003 06:20:04 PM · #7
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Gordon
I don't remember the error message off the top of my head -- but the drive is new, and has at least 90GB free -- if there's a virtual memory problem, then I'm concerned for other reasons.

I'd also considered the rendering in portions.
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Methos

Ummm, it kinda does, but think of it this way -- it's an import from Elements. It does some things well, but not nearly with the same kind of control. There are also speed issues -- I assume because it's trying to work with all the big originals at once. Not that I'm against using it -- you can easily create some pretty cool Hockney-like montages with it.
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kirbic
I forget now, I don't think it's the only, but it's definitely one of the few. panoguide.com has a nice breakdown of the various inputs/outputs/abilities of the different packages out there.
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joanns
Thanks for the feedback, I may have a look.
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