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12/08/2003 05:14:42 PM · #76
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Photograph what makes you happy and don't worry about the creativity clones around town. If they spent as much time being 'good' as being 'creative' their work would stand out more :)


Originally posted by GeneralE:

I just don't think poeple should be evangelizing the strategy in the forums.


Hm. I thought the forums were for posting opinions and points of view. Shutting up now in deference to the Elder Statesmen of DPC....
12/08/2003 05:17:02 PM · #77
Is this discussion not getting a bit pointless ?

O.K. I did my share to stir up the pot. What is water or not ? Should a drop shot be redone ? Is that to be determined in this forum ?

In the end : power is to the voters, they will decide, so knock them of their chairs, amaze them. Whatever you do, do it well.
12/08/2003 05:19:32 PM · #78
If separate categories would give the Noob a fair vote and a push towards learning to improve I would be all for it.

I may have been dabbling in photography since 1974 but I still consider myself a novice when it comes to creative shots.

Some are born with the abiltiy to crank them out while others like me have to be trained. :)


Originally posted by ahaze:

Worth 1000 does both of these, though the cliches only applied to their Photoshop contests (last I checked) because the photography contests were still too new to have developed cliches. I think different challenge levels is a great idea- why should someone like me, who has been shooting for exactly 5 months, compete with someone who has been shooting since 1974?

12/08/2003 05:20:20 PM · #79
being 'new' or 'old' shouldnt really have any bearing on your creativity. i would assume that most people, even if they are new to 'taking' pictures, are probably not new at 'seeing' pictures.

So why not take a fresh approach to things? Why walk in the same old footsteps as others have?

To learn, you then say. Well, last I looked in the upper left corner of the screen, it said that this is a 'contest'. Why in the world would someone enter a contest with something old hat? How is that satisfying?

I have nothing against people duplicating things they've seen for the learning of it. Do it all you want, it's great! Even ask for my feedback on your shots. But why would you do that for a contest? That's the time, imo, that you should try to use your own voice. :)

Message edited by author 2003-12-08 17:21:28.
12/08/2003 05:22:38 PM · #80
Originally posted by ahaze:

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Photograph what makes you happy and don't worry about the creativity clones around town. If they spent as much time being 'good' as being 'creative' their work would stand out more :)


Originally posted by GeneralE:

I just don't think poeple should be evangelizing the strategy in the forums.


Hm. I thought the forums were for posting opinions and points of view. Shutting up now in deference to the Elder Statesmen of DPC....

Sorry ... not my intent. There is a very subjective and fine line between expressing one's opinion and evangelizing, and I don't have nearly enough time right now to expand on that substantially.

Still, no matter how much/little any such remarks might annoy me personally I certainly maintain their right to express it.
12/08/2003 05:41:50 PM · #81
Originally posted by Calvus:

Now that site I can understand.

It is geared more towards the artistic and creative crowd and they don't want to see a lot of coping and etc. I would imagine.


I'm glad DPC doesn't hold with any of that artistic or creative nonsense...
12/08/2003 06:01:39 PM · #82
Gordon

Don't misunderstand what I was trying to say.

Worth1000 I do believe is geared more to advanced artistic and creative works with Photoshop and not learning photography. If you choose to participate there I think you had better know photography to begin with.

They have taken it to another level from what I have seen after only visiting the site a couple of times.

DPC is more about photography, sharing the knowledge, learning and competing.

The title says Digital Photography "Challenge"

The DPC "about" says:

DPChallenge was created in January 2002 by two friends, Drew Ungvarsky (drewmedia) and Langdon Oliver (langdon). The original idea behind the site was for it to be a place where the two of us and a couple of our friends could teach ourselves to be better photographers by giving each other a 'challenge' for the week. The idea quickly took off and became much more in the months that followed.

Thus the site to me comes across as for learning and challenging.

Only is small print does the word contest appear.

I think that on DPC we as members need to be a little more understanding is all.


Originally posted by Gordon:

I'm glad DPC doesn't hold with any of that artistic or creative nonsense...


Message edited by author 2003-12-08 18:03:04.
12/08/2003 06:05:33 PM · #83
It says 'contest' in the upper left corner of every screen.

Anyway, I didn't really expect a response to my open ended question about 'why not try to take a fresh approach to all you do' but it would have been nice :)


12/08/2003 06:05:37 PM · #84
the 'challenge' is to better your skills through a community enviroment.

the 'contest' part is to show off what you've learned...


well put calvus
12/08/2003 06:06:12 PM · #85
Maybe DPC needs to create a Advanced section and let the better photographers move on and quit hammering the noobs and novice.

Thus quit handing out 1 and 2 votes for trying.




12/08/2003 06:13:46 PM · #86
One thing that really irritates me is to see one of the advanced photograhers so to speak with a somewhat low "Average Voting Cast" in his or her profile.

Sounds to me like they may be to critical in their voting?


12/08/2003 06:28:26 PM · #87
Originally posted by Calvus:

One thing that really irritates me is to see one of the advanced photograhers so to speak with a somewhat low "Average Voting Cast" in his or her profile.

Sounds to me like they may be to critical in their voting?


Is it equally irritating to see newbies with somewhat high average votes cast ? Are they equally at fault for being too in awe of all the entries ? Doesn't seem to make much sense that way around does it ?

People have different standards of what they consider bad or good, partly based in experience - why shouldn't they vote accordingly ?
12/08/2003 07:12:28 PM · #88
I think I'm straying off the predominant conversations by posting about the Water Challenge again...

I'm just going to take a picture of a pot of boiling water with steam comming off of it and ice cubes I dropped into it. That way everyone will agree it has water in it.. haha.

And, the drowning a cat post was so sick it made me laugh.
12/08/2003 07:21:23 PM · #89
sort of funny
i was just in the kitchen thinking the same damn thing...



12/08/2003 11:11:05 PM · #90
Originally posted by soup:

sort of funny
i was just in the kitchen thinking the same damn thing...


I'm guessing this is in reply to my comment, so I'll joke right back about it.. go ahead and take that picture, I have another idea anyways.. haha.
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