I'm a PC - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

09/23/2008 03:45:58 PM · #27

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Hard Drive crashed on an ibook my friend owned. On my pc 2 small screws release the hd and I can have a new one in place in about 20 minutes. The mac took 4 hours, and at least 50 screws.

You must be going in backwards then. My iBook has two clips on the keyboard, under the keyboard is 4 small screws and the HD is out.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

09/23/2008 04:09:11 PM · #28

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Here is an example of a mac being a pain in the butt.

Hard Drive crashed on an ibook my friend owned. On my pc 2 small screws release the hd and I can have a new one in place in about 20 minutes. The mac took 4 hours, and at least 50 screws.

You must have gone into it bass-ackwards then.

I've added HD's to my Mac tower in less time than it takes to find the mounting screws on my PC tower.

As for the laptops, they're even easier.

To add RAM to my PC laptop, I had to open a compartment on the bottom of the laptop, install one RAM module, replace the door, flip it over, pop off a piece of trim next to the keyboard and remove the keyboard to access the second slot, then re-assemble it. That's what I call a "feature".

fuzzyt

Nikon D90

Quantaray AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC for Nikon

09/23/2008 05:16:33 PM · #29

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I also don't feel that mac really has anything on pc.

Ah, they used to before they went to x86 based hardware. Thats where the graphics used to shine in the past. Now they aren't really any better.

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Besides, Bill Gates wrote the original mac os anyway.

Actually the UI was developed by Xerox and simply stollen for both the MAC and Windows. Bill had nothing to really do with MAC OS. In fact, Bill's launch of Microsoft was based on a lie that he and Paul Allen had written BASIC that could be run on the Altair.

Oh well, either way, the best computer is the one that works for you personally, not the one that makes you work for it, regardless of architecture or OS. :)

09/23/2008 05:18:17 PM · #30

Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:
Hard Drive crashed on an ibook my friend owned. On my pc 2 small screws release the hd and I can have a new one in place in about 20 minutes. The mac took 4 hours, and at least 50 screws.

You must be going in backwards then. My iBook has two clips on the keyboard, under the keyboard is 4 small screws and the HD is out.

Must be a newer one. The ones that I have for school require that you take the keyboard, back and front panels off, and then traverse 3 layers of electronics before getting to the hd.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

09/23/2008 05:20:25 PM · #31

Originally posted by fuzzyt:

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

I also don't feel that mac really has anything on pc.

Ah, they used to before they went to x86 based hardware. Thats where the graphics used to shine in the past. Now they aren't really any better.
Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Besides, Bill Gates wrote the original mac os anyway.

Actually the UI was developed by Xerox and simply stollen for both the MAC and Windows. Bill had nothing to really do with MAC OS. In fact, Bill's launch of Microsoft was based on a lie that he and Paul Allen had written BASIC that could be run on the Altair.

Oh well, either way, the best computer is the one that works for you personally, not the one that makes you work for it, regardless of architecture or OS. :)

I have a movie of the apple guys talking about hiring Bill to write the code for the Mac. It is a history channel special I think. They were talking about how it wasn't really stealing because he was hired to do a job, and he decided it was probably the direction computers were going so he began writing his own windows os.

kenskid

Nikon D700

09/23/2008 05:32:44 PM · #32

The only reason MACs don't seem to get viri is because no one wastes their time writing code to screw up 15 computers.

If you're going to write a virus you want it to attack as many computers as possible...WINDOWS...

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

09/23/2008 06:26:05 PM · #33

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

Must be a newer one. The ones that I have for school require that you take the keyboard, back and front panels off, and then traverse 3 layers of electronics before getting to the hd.

My iBook is circa 2001

MelonMusketeer

Nikon D7000

Nikon MF 50mm f/1.4

09/23/2008 06:29:35 PM · #34

Originally posted by kenskid:

Safety in numbers,,,, small numbers. : )
3 1/2 years now without a blink, without any trips to the shop. The only time it gets moved is to clean under the tower, or to go to safety from a coming hurricane.
Love my Powermac G5.
I did have to restart it one time because I had about 7 or 8 programs open at the same time, and it hung up while moving a file from one place to another.

PhotoDave

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

09/23/2008 06:31:04 PM · #35

MY ALL TIME FAVORITE MAC VIDEO :P

Nikon D200

Google Glass Google Glass

09/23/2008 06:31:28 PM · #36

Originally posted by Jason_Cross:

... but Microsoft one note works so well ...

I totally love that software! OneNote rocks, for just about any project. Woo!

ambaker

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM

09/23/2008 06:33:05 PM · #37

Originally posted by pixelpig:

I wish that all the people who need a computer that they can take out of the box & use with no problem or setup or basic understanding of what they are doing would immediately go out & get a Mac & that it would actually work out like that for them.

While in the past I have built my own computers, the newer computers are getting as cheap as what a person can build. (Unless your are really headed for the bleeding edge. Not something a Mac user would concern themself with anyway. ;-)

My newest computer, this spring, is an HP. I bought it at Circuit City, and bought a flat screen monitor to go with it. It came preloaded with Vista 64 Home Platinum.

I put the green connector in the green hole, the purple connector in the purple hole, the speaker connection in the speaker hole, and the monitor connected to the video output. I plugged it in, turned it on, entered my info and a password for the admin account.

It set itself up, and connected to the interenet. I'm not quite understanding what part of not working you are talking about. I have not had to do anything to the machine. Even if I were not tech savvy, there is nothing that I had to do, that was not covered on the fold out quick start sheet that came in the box. True, if I needed to I could have dealt with any problems, but there were none.

Maybe there are more problems on entry level PCs, I don't know. But in this case, I have yet to see anything out of the ordinary. No system crashes, no real problems whatsoever.

There was a time, yes. But it looks like that time is over. At least from where I sit.

Apple iPhone 5

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

09/23/2008 06:40:41 PM · #38

Originally posted by kenskid:

I'm so happy to be one of the 15. I just wish people would stop publicising how great it is, otherwise everyone will be wanting one!

09/23/2008 06:43:57 PM · #39

Mac adds are funny as heck. My favorite is that one where the PC's are all on the cart being toted of to get fixed. The one coughs and PC says "hes a gonner". That is hysterical.

Almost as funny as the e-trade baby and the monkeys for career builder.

smurfguy

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/23/2008 06:53:44 PM · #40

Let's admit - Mac or PC - most problems originate from in front of the keyboard.

And hey, since this is a useless Mac vs. PC thread and we're relating computer building experiences, here's my latest:

- I bought smoking new hardware from Newegg, motherboard, AMD dual-core processor, a couple 1gb sticks of RAM, two 1 TB hard drives, and a lovely little device called an HDHomeRun.

- I built it in about 45 minutes - put the CPU where the CPU goes, heatsink on top, put the RAM where the RAM goes. I can never remember the polarity of the power and HD LEDs, so I had to reverse those to get'em right. It was a very tight-fitting HTPC case - everything was quite snug.

- I spent roughly 8 hours installing and re-installing various flavors of Linux on it, and countless more downloading those installation DVDs. I hit some obscure bug where the hard drive doesn't show up if an IDE DVD drive is plugged into it, and then my NVidia driver wouldn't work, so I ended up building the NVidia driver from source code.

- I spent probably 2 hours configuring MythTV schedules and the remote just to my liking, and a couple more shopping for the right cables to plug it into my TV.

All told, it took me all weekend to get this high-def recording beast in action. And I loved every minute of it, and learned some stuff, too. What a blast and just in time for season premieres. Now I'll kick back and enjoy my brand-less, nearly*-subscription-free HD DVR (plus web server, file server, and anything else I want) for a long, long time.

Yay Linux (on cheaply available PC hardware)!

There. Will that kill the thread? =D Oh, I highly doubt it.

* - schedule data is still $20/year. =P

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

09/23/2008 07:15:46 PM · #41

Who says you can't build your own Mac.
So those that don't think things are replaceable or that Mac people don't upgrade their own system....there ya go.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/23/2008 07:26:36 PM · #42

Ooooh, that looks like fun. I might try and build one of those. I would get a kick out of a mcdell.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

09/23/2008 09:25:38 PM · #43

Originally posted by smurfguy:

All told, it took me all weekend to get this high-def recording beast in action. And I loved every minute of it, and learned some stuff, too. What a blast and just in time for season premieres. Now I'll kick back and enjoy my brand-less, nearly*-subscription-free HD DVR (plus web server, file server, and anything else I want) for a long, long time.

I was just rereading some bookmarked articles on PVRs earlier today. I will build one someday. Have there been any decent methods for recording HD on a cable signal yet? or is it still just OTA?

Message edited by author 2008-09-23 21:25:55.

smurfguy

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/23/2008 10:11:16 PM · #44

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by smurfguy:
All told, it took me all weekend to get this high-def recording beast in action. And I loved every minute of it, and learned some stuff, too. What a blast and just in time for season premieres. Now I'll kick back and enjoy my brand-less, nearly*-subscription-free HD DVR (plus web server, file server, and anything else I want) for a long, long time.

I was just rereading some bookmarked articles on PVRs earlier today. I will build one someday. Have there been any decent methods for recording HD on a cable signal yet? or is it still just OTA?

I have basic cable because of getting comcast Internet, and I believe they're required by law to provide your local OTA HD channels. So buying an antenna or using my basic cable is the same for me, channel-wise.

The HDHomeRun is an awesome device - it receives the HD channels via coax (from an antenna or cable) and is network attached, so you can get TV on any computer on your network - Windows or Linux (dunno if it has a Mac client). As a bonus, it has a generic IR receiver.

Now that I've been over the speedbumps, it's a pretty easy process - I could help you if you're interested in MythTV. I spent $700 (though you could easily go less with a single hard drive). Some people will say that $700 is expensive for a PVR, but can your PVR: surf the web on your HDTV, check movie times, rip DVDs, play MP3s, emulate game consoles, be a web server, and a network file server?

Ok, sorry. Big thread jacking

PM me if you want more info. =)

Edit: Less snarky. =)

Message edited by author 2008-09-23 23:03:13.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/23/2008 11:10:09 PM · #45

Originally posted by smurfguy:

Ya, I usually do that too, although I'm doing the little "bundle for a year before we ask you to bend over plan" right now. So I take it there is still no good way to record DiscoveryHD or other cable based HD channels.

Message edited by author 2008-09-23 23:10:27.

awpollard

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

09/23/2008 11:31:16 PM · #46

I'm a PC and I got my pic in.