I Need A Coolio Lens, You Should Help Me:)

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/18/2008 12:44:43 PM · #1

i was thinking about getting this crazy thing, but what do you think? it will be for sports, and needs to work well with poor lighting(late night football games, indoor volleyball with bad lighting). let me know what you thnk, there isnt a price problem here, i can go as high as i want:)

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

09/18/2008 12:46:41 PM · #2

09/18/2008 12:50:47 PM · #3

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

thanks for contributing art. i havent seen you around for a while, glad to have you back making my threads entertaining:)

Mal37

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/18/2008 12:51:16 PM · #4

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

i was thinking about getting this crazy thing...

That would be great for daytime sports, but for low light, you should really be looking at a 2.8 lens. I've heard good things about the sigma 120-300/2.8, it is heavy though.

TCGuru

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

09/18/2008 12:51:27 PM · #5

If money is not an issue, then I would get something closer to this. Or this.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

09/18/2008 12:53:42 PM · #6

Originally posted by TCGuru:

If money is not an issue, then I would get something closer to this. Or this.

i dont have time to research them right now. are either of them good for low light?

togtog

Nikon D300

09/18/2008 12:53:56 PM · #7

Wow that second one is only a couple hundred more and a lot more lens. Seems like a good deal.

Mr_Pants

SiPix Blink

09/18/2008 12:58:22 PM · #8

I believe that the combination of the 70-200 2.8 IS with a 2x TC was mentioned in another thread. This would give you the reach of the 100-400 at the same aperture (5.6), albeit with a little slower focussing action and a little less sharpness. Without the TC, the lens alone would give you a large-ish aperture which would, I imagine, be extremely helpful in the instances of poor lighting as you mentioned in your original post. My preference would always be for IS (or OS or VR or VC etc) on a long lens, although not everyone would necessarily agree. When light gets low, you will find yourself using a slower shutter speed. Slower, maybe, than can effectively be handheld without some form of stabilisation. If you make a point of shooting people at points in the game where they are moving less, you can still get some acceptable shots.

TCGuru

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

09/18/2008 01:00:24 PM · #9

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

Originally posted by TCGuru:
If money is not an issue, then I would get something closer to this. Or this.

i dont have time to research them right now. are either of them good for low light?

Both are 2.8 with IS

Tamron SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di for Nikon

09/18/2008 01:01:01 PM · #10

i dont want to have to change my shutter speed to below optimal shooting action when the lighting goes bad(this might be impossible, not sure). action is relly important to me, so im hoping i can find something that works with what i need

StOlafPhotographer

Nikon D200

09/18/2008 01:21:57 PM · #11

70-200. That's all. If you need more reach pick up a 1.7 converter not a 2x. Though I'm guessing I'm only talking from nikon exp. but the 1.7 is the best of both worlds!

Evan

MattO

Nikon D4

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

09/18/2008 01:25:18 PM · #12

If money isnt an issue, I'd grab the Canon 200F2.0 and a 1.4.

The 200 is a great volleyball lens, attach the 1.4 to is you have a 280 2.8 lens. That is exactly what I'd do if money were no object. Of course I'd also attach a 1 series canon to it instead of a 400D. :P

Matt

Mr_Pants

SiPix Blink

09/18/2008 01:36:05 PM · #13

Originally posted by MattO:

I always get the feeling that, to use a long (or long-ish) prime to shoot sports, one should really have a second body with a zoom on it, to provide more options for framing. Depends on the sport, though, if you're covering a particular corner in a race, then you're set.

MattO

Nikon D4

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

09/18/2008 01:58:45 PM · #14

Originally posted by Mr_Pants:

Originally posted by MattO:
If money isnt an issue, I'd grab the Canon 200F2.0 and a 1.4.

The 200 is a great volleyball lens, attach the 1.4 to is you have a 280 2.8 lens. That is exactly what I'd do if money were no object. Of course I'd also attach a 1 series canon to it instead of a 400D. :P

Matt

I always get the feeling that, to use a long (or long-ish) prime to shoot sports, one should really have a second body with a zoom on it, to provide more options for framing. Depends on the sport, though, if you're covering a particular corner in a race, then you're set.

I dont go to any sporting event without 2 bodies, and 2 lens. I shoot 99% of my field sports with a prime lens, sometimes using the 1.4 on it. The 70-200 is always on a backup body but rarely used. I'd rather frame it tight then miss something changing bodies. But yes always carry a long prime and one smaller zoom. I have found the more I shoot sports and become familiar with the players and the sports the more I can do everything I need with a prime lens. Shoot tight, crop tighter. Position yourself so you can do both of those.

Matt

Mr_Pants

SiPix Blink

09/18/2008 02:10:46 PM · #15

Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by Mr_Pants:

Originally posted by MattO:
If money isnt an issue, I'd grab the Canon 200F2.0 and a 1.4.

The 200 is a great volleyball lens, attach the 1.4 to is you have a 280 2.8 lens. That is exactly what I'd do if money were no object. Of course I'd also attach a 1 series canon to it instead of a 400D. :P

Matt

I always get the feeling that, to use a long (or long-ish) prime to shoot sports, one should really have a second body with a zoom on it, to provide more options for framing. Depends on the sport, though, if you're covering a particular corner in a race, then you're set.

I dont go to any sporting event without 2 bodies, and 2 lens. I shoot 99% of my field sports with a prime lens, sometimes using the 1.4 on it. The 70-200 is always on a backup body but rarely used. I'd rather frame it tight then miss something changing bodies. But yes always carry a long prime and one smaller zoom. I have found the more I shoot sports and become familiar with the players and the sports the more I can do everything I need with a prime lens. Shoot tight, crop tighter. Position yourself so you can do both of those.

Matt

I was thinking of shooting sports like Rugby or football, where the action can be on the other side of the pitch at one moment and right in front of you the next. There's tight framing and there's getting only the tip of someone's nose :)

09/18/2008 04:44:56 PM · #16

ok right now i have a 75-300, and if i got a big fancy lens such as 70-200 or any of the other lens mentioned, i dont think i would get rid of the lens i have now. right now i use two camera bodies at all events, one with my pathetic 17-55 thing, the other with the 75-300. when i get a new lens i want it to kinda fill in the spaces were the 75-300 wont get. as well as be good in bad light, good action etc. if i could get the followers of this thread to kinda agree on a good lens that would be awesome, but i now we're all photographers here and must disagree about most everything:)

09/18/2008 09:33:28 PM · #17

well, just bought my lens and a 2x extendor tubual device:D

wish me luck all:)

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

09/18/2008 09:35:44 PM · #18

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

well, just bought my lens and a 2x extendor tubual device:D

wish me luck all:)

So which lens did you get...

09/18/2008 09:38:54 PM · #19

Originally posted by violinist123:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
well, just bought my lens and a 2x extendor tubual device:D

wish me luck all:)

So which lens did you get...

this and this

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

09/18/2008 09:59:28 PM · #20

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

Originally posted by violinist123:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
well, just bought my lens and a 2x extendor tubual device:D

wish me luck all:)

So which lens did you get...

this and this

Excellent choice. Now you can use that 75-300 for swatting flies and propping open windows, etc.

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

09/18/2008 10:02:10 PM · #21

Originally posted by violinist123:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

Originally posted by violinist123:

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
well, just bought my lens and a 2x extendor tubual device:D

wish me luck all:)

So which lens did you get...

this and this

Excellent choice. Now you can use that 75-300 for swatting flies and propping open windows, etc.

Ha! lol yeh well, my mumzy is buying it from me so i only have to pay, what, $1400 for my stuff lol. oh egads it turns out i need to work like 25 hours for my mom doing massage to pay it off

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

09/18/2008 10:16:50 PM · #22

Originally posted by JDubsgirl:

i need to work like 25 hours for my mom doing massage to pay it off

Work? Eww. Why do that to get something you want?

FWIW, I shot a night frisbee game with my 70-200 2.8 and got this:

And at a night baseball game, I got this with it:

So I think you'll be very happy with that lens!

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

09/18/2008 10:18:16 PM · #23

wow! those photos make me very happy with my choice in lens.

jpochard

Canon EOS-40D

09/18/2008 10:18:43 PM · #24

I'm sooooooo jealous right now. I hope you do get some great shots with your new lens. Make sure and share them with us here!

btw...I like the 17-55 2.8 for indoor volleyball. At least on the 40D, I'm getting very usable shots with it.