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09/18/2008 05:41:28 PM · #1 |
| I have this shot for the challenge, but i need some help on how to do a soft layer that is not a soft layer and a screen layer that will not be a screen layer. Is there a way to replicate these layers some other way?? |
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09/18/2008 05:43:24 PM · #2 |
You can use highlight/shadow to simulate the screen layer. You just have to apply it to the background. You can't duplicate the layer first.
Soft, that might doable with curves.
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09/18/2008 05:44:30 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I have this shot for the challenge, but i need some help on how to do a soft layer that is not a soft layer and a screen layer that will not be a screen layer. Is there a way to replicate these layers some other way?? |
Or for soft, do gaussian blur with a very low number... or FADE it after you apply it. |
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09/18/2008 06:10:28 PM · #4 |
By bloody golly, you guys did it!
I did the gaussion then faded several times, redid it, faded it unsharp masl, shadows highlights
and viola!!!!!!! you guys rock socks!
Thank you thank you thank you |
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09/18/2008 06:18:38 PM · #5 |
If this is for a Basic challenge ... then I don't believe you can "fade" a filter after applying it because doing so would be similar to setting the opacity on a layer (which if I remember correctly is disallowed).
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09/18/2008 06:22:43 PM · #6 |
| damn really, umm, going to email site council and see what they say |
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09/18/2008 06:25:04 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
If this is for a Basic challenge ... then I don't believe you can "fade" a filter after applying it because doing so would be similar to setting the opacity on a layer (which if I remember correctly is disallowed). |
Am pretty sure thats right. However, rather than fade why not simply play with lower numbers and apply less of an effect? might take a few attempts but it should be legal?
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09/18/2008 06:53:55 PM · #8 |
WHOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Direct from L2
Hi Juliet,
Yep, that's fine.
Good luck in the challenge,
L2 |
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09/18/2008 07:14:43 PM · #9 |
| No, you can fade in basic. It's the legal alternative to lowering the opacity. |
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09/18/2008 07:18:39 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
If this is for a Basic challenge ... then I don't believe you can "fade" a filter after applying it because doing so would be similar to setting the opacity on a layer (which if I remember correctly is disallowed). |
To clarify: In Basic, you must not duplicate your background layer, apply a filter and then fade the opacity, then flatten the layers. This is because in Basic, you can only use adjustment layers with no pixel data applied in Normal Mode. Duplicating the base layer is the no-no part, because that is a layer that contains pixel data. Applying a filter is a no-no, too, but Gaussian Blur is specifically excluded from the filter clause.
What you can do: apply Gaussian Blur on the base layer and Edit/Fade the effect.
JulietNN: you asked if you could use Gaussian Blur and fade the effect, and it is true that you can. But beware, you cannot dupe the base layer and apply these effects and then flatten. Your ticket didn't mention any duplication of the base layer and that is why it wasn't addressed in your answer. |
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09/18/2008 07:34:06 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
If this is for a Basic challenge ... then I don't believe you can "fade" a filter after applying it because doing so would be similar to setting the opacity on a layer (which if I remember correctly is disallowed). |
You should be allowed to use the fade feature in basic because it applies to the whole image. You can not adjust the opacity as far as I know but you can use EDIT > FADE BLUR after applying it to the image.
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09/18/2008 07:34:40 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:
Originally posted by dwterry:
If this is for a Basic challenge ... then I don't believe you can "fade" a filter after applying it because doing so would be similar to setting the opacity on a layer (which if I remember correctly is disallowed). |
You should be allowed to use the fade feature in basic because it applies to the whole image. You can not adjust the opacity as far as I know but you can use EDIT > FADE BLUR after applying it to the image. |
Just leave the blend mode as normal.
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09/18/2008 07:37:11 PM · #13 |
lol, isn't basic editing complex ;)
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09/18/2008 08:12:11 PM · #14 |
I didnt add any layers at all, I used the original photo.
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09/18/2008 08:15:03 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I didnt add any layers at all, I used the original photo. |
Sounds like you're good to go, woo! |
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09/18/2008 08:33:48 PM · #16 |
My bad. Thanks for the clarification. :)
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09/24/2008 10:14:41 AM · #17 |
| Not that I support cheating, etc., but how would anyone know if you duplicated the layer or applied it to the background layer? The end result of the Gaussian blur is the same, right? As long as you don't create a mask, change the blend mode, etc., it seems the same to me. Am I wrong? |
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09/24/2008 10:24:38 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Not that I support cheating, etc., but how would anyone know if you duplicated the layer or applied it to the background layer? The end result of the Gaussian blur is the same, right? As long as you don't create a mask, change the blend mode, etc., it seems the same to me. Am I wrong? |
You are correct. This exact issue came up previously because I would duplicate my background as part of my normal workflow. I was prepared to submit nearly all of my basic entries for DQ until SC chimed in and said I was fine.
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