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09/02/2008 06:10:38 PM · #1 |
This question may have come up before, but I couldnt get an answer in the posts.
Why is it that only one open challenge participation is allowed per week for free members?
There are exclusive priviged member challenges anyways that a free member cannot submit to, then why the limit on open challenges?
I suggest this limit on only one open challenges per week per free member be lifted.
Thanks. |
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09/02/2008 06:12:02 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Prash:
This question may have come up before, but I couldnt get an answer in the posts.
Why is it that only one open challenge participation is allowed per week for free members?
There are exclusive priviged member challenges anyways that a free member cannot submit to, then why the limit on open challenges?
I suggest this limit on only one open challenges per week per free member be lifted.
Thanks. |
Maybe its a perk of becoming a member ;) and yes, its come up often in the forums. |
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09/02/2008 06:13:54 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Prash:
This question may have come up before, but I couldnt get an answer in the posts.
Why is it that only one open challenge participation is allowed per week for free members?
There are exclusive priviged member challenges anyways that a free member cannot submit to, then why the limit on open challenges?
I suggest this limit on only one open challenges per week per free member be lifted.
Thanks. |
$25 isn't a huge cost for all you gt as a member... including the privalage of entering more than one challenge. |
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09/02/2008 06:15:11 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Eyesup:
Originally posted by Prash:
This question may have come up before, but I couldnt get an answer in the posts.
Why is it that only one open challenge participation is allowed per week for free members?
There are exclusive priviged member challenges anyways that a free member cannot submit to, then why the limit on open challenges?
I suggest this limit on only one open challenges per week per free member be lifted.
Thanks. |
$25 isn't a huge cost for all you gt as a member... including the privalage of entering more than one challenge. |
$25 bucks a year works out to just over 2 bucks a month. Skip a fancy coffee once a month and you are ahead... |
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09/02/2008 06:15:52 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Eyesup:
Originally posted by Prash:
This question may have come up before, but I couldnt get an answer in the posts.
Why is it that only one open challenge participation is allowed per week for free members?
There are exclusive priviged member challenges anyways that a free member cannot submit to, then why the limit on open challenges?
I suggest this limit on only one open challenges per week per free member be lifted.
Thanks. |
$25 isn't a huge cost for all you gt as a member... including the privalage of entering more than one challenge. |
That is a subjective statement, sorry... for some of us, that may make a big difference. Think about the countries where buying a DSLR costs one a whole year's in hand salary.
My only argument is that there are member exclusive challenges anyways, so why not lift this limit from open challenges at the least? |
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09/02/2008 06:15:54 PM · #6 |
It was set up that way a couple years ago because the open challenges were consistently drawing 500+ entries. They were a real chore to vote on, and people were complaining. So the "exclusive open challenges" were instituted to split the field into two parts, basically.
R.
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09/02/2008 06:16:44 PM · #7 |
I think the answer you're looking for in the convoluted way of asking it is:
From what I can find, open challenges were split as an experiment to try and lessen the number of entries being submitted in a challenge, possibly overwhelming voters and submitters alike. For the experiment, you were only allowed to enter one of the now two challenges in order to keep the submissions in each challenge down to a more manageable level.
Seems like the experiment worked very well.
*EDIT* Looks like Bear_Music beat me to it.
Message edited by author 2008-09-02 18:17:09. |
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09/02/2008 06:17:02 PM · #8 |
| I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
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09/02/2008 06:17:25 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It was set up that way a couple years ago because the open challenges were consistently drawing 500+ entries. They were a real chore to vote on, and people were complaining. So the "exclusive open challenges" were instituted to split the field into two parts, basically.
R. |
That is fine, dont get me wrong. Member exclusive challenges are fine.
My question is: why the limit on even the open challenges? I tried, and I cannot submit to both open challenges .. because I am not a paid member. |
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09/02/2008 06:17:50 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Eyesup:
Originally posted by Prash:
This question may have come up before, but I couldnt get an answer in the posts.
Why is it that only one open challenge participation is allowed per week for free members?
There are exclusive priviged member challenges anyways that a free member cannot submit to, then why the limit on open challenges?
I suggest this limit on only one open challenges per week per free member be lifted.
Thanks. |
$25 isn't a huge cost for all you gt as a member... including the privalage of entering more than one challenge. |
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Like I said earlier, you can enter one challenge a week as it is by paying nothing. That is a great deal. If you can't afford a membership, that is unfortunate, but many who can't afford memberships who contribute in a positive way to the site often are gifted memberships.
That is a subjective statement, sorry... for some of us, that may make a big difference. Think about the countries where buying a DSLR costs one a whole year's in hand salary.
My only argument is that there are member exclusive challenges anyways, so why not lift this limit from open challenges at the least?
Message edited by author 2008-09-02 18:19:56. |
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09/02/2008 06:19:24 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It was set up that way a couple years ago because the open challenges were consistently drawing 500+ entries. They were a real chore to vote on, and people were complaining. So the "exclusive open challenges" were instituted to split the field into two parts, basically.
R. |
That is fine, dont get me wrong. Member exclusive challenges are fine.
My question is: why the limit on even the open challenges? I tried, and I cannot submit to both open challenges .. because I am not a paid member. |
Registered users and members can enter only one of the two exclusive open challenges each week. Exclusive in this context means either one or the other.
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09/02/2008 06:19:31 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It was set up that way a couple years ago because the open challenges were consistently drawing 500+ entries. They were a real chore to vote on, and people were complaining. So the "exclusive open challenges" were instituted to split the field into two parts, basically.
R. |
That is fine, dont get me wrong. Member exclusive challenges are fine.
My question is: why the limit on even the open challenges? I tried, and I cannot submit to both open challenges .. because I am not a paid member. |
If you actually read Bear_Music's statement, you'll see that he answered this in full. As did I.
They were split to keep submission levels down. If you open them both up again, you'd get 300 - 500 entries in each challenge. Even worse than 500 in only one challenge.
*EDIT* and yes, even paid members can only enter one of the open challenges.
Message edited by author 2008-09-02 18:20:07. |
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09/02/2008 06:20:06 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Maggye:
I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
This is the message I see:
"Sorry, you've already submitted to Overexposed, another exclusive challenge, so cannot
submit to this one. If you're more interested in submitting to Dolls & Puppets, then you should
unsubmit from Overexposed and return to this page"
Are you a paid member or a free member? |
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09/02/2008 06:20:57 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
This is the message I see:
"Sorry, you've already submitted to Overexposed, another exclusive challenge, so cannot
submit to this one. If you're more interested in submitting to Dolls & Puppets, then you should
unsubmit from Overexposed and return to this page"
Are you a paid member or a free member? |
Please read the thead comments that people are leaving. This has already been explained |
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09/02/2008 06:21:12 PM · #15 |
| No one can submit to both open challenges - not even members. Members can submit to the member challenge (usually one a week) and to ONE of the open challenges. They can also submit to the Free Study. |
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09/02/2008 06:21:35 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
This is the message I see:
"Sorry, you've already submitted to Overexposed, another exclusive challenge, so cannot
submit to this one. If you're more interested in submitting to Dolls & Puppets, then you should
unsubmit from Overexposed and return to this page"
Are you a paid member or a free member? |
I paid a membership, and I got the same message, so... for what I can see the same limitation applies to everybody... correct me if I'm wrong. |
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09/02/2008 06:22:52 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
No one can submit to both open challenges - not even members. Members can submit to the member challenge (usually one a week) and to ONE of the open challenges. They can also submit to the Free Study. |
Ok, well that wasnt clear. Where did you read that, can you share? Thank you. |
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09/02/2008 06:24:33 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Maggye:
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
This is the message I see:
"Sorry, you've already submitted to Overexposed, another exclusive challenge, so cannot
submit to this one. If you're more interested in submitting to Dolls & Puppets, then you should
unsubmit from Overexposed and return to this page"
Are you a paid member or a free member? |
I paid a membership, and I got the same message, so... for what I can see the same limitation applies to everybody... correct me if I'm wrong. |
I wouldnt know what a paid member would see, because I am not. I trust you, and so it means the rule applies to everybody. I got confused because I got unclear responses.
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09/02/2008 06:25:27 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
This is the message I see:
"Sorry, you've already submitted to Overexposed, another exclusive challenge, so cannot
submit to this one. If you're more interested in submitting to Dolls & Puppets, then you should
unsubmit from Overexposed and return to this page"
Are you a paid member or a free member? |
I paid a membership, and I got the same message, so... for what I can see the same limitation applies to everybody... correct me if I'm wrong. |
I wouldnt know what a paid member would see, because I am not. I trust you, and so it means the rule applies to everybody. I got confused because I got unclear responses. |
To be fair, you asked an unclear question that took awhile to sort out. |
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09/02/2008 06:26:03 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
This is the message I see:
"Sorry, you've already submitted to Overexposed, another exclusive challenge, so cannot
submit to this one. If you're more interested in submitting to Dolls & Puppets, then you should
unsubmit from Overexposed and return to this page"
Are you a paid member or a free member? |
I paid a membership, and I got the same message, so... for what I can see the same limitation applies to everybody... correct me if I'm wrong. |
I wouldnt know what a paid member would see, because I am not. I trust you, and so it means the rule applies to everybody. I got confused because I got unclear responses. |
How is this an unclear response?
"Registered users and members can enter only one of the two exclusive open challenges each week. Exclusive in this context means either one or the other"
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09/02/2008 06:27:27 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by bassbone:
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by Maggye:
I'm getting confused here. I'm a member, and last week I tried to enter two open challenges at the same time, and the system didn't let me do it. Am I wrong, or this rule applies to everybody? |
This is the message I see:
"Sorry, you've already submitted to Overexposed, another exclusive challenge, so cannot
submit to this one. If you're more interested in submitting to Dolls & Puppets, then you should
unsubmit from Overexposed and return to this page"
Are you a paid member or a free member? |
I paid a membership, and I got the same message, so... for what I can see the same limitation applies to everybody... correct me if I'm wrong. |
I wouldnt know what a paid member would see, because I am not. I trust you, and so it means the rule applies to everybody. I got confused because I got unclear responses. |
How is this an unclear response?
"Registered users and members can enter only one of the two exclusive open challenges each week. Exclusive in this context means either one or the other" |
Sorry Peter, your answer was clear, but I think we were all posting almost at the same time ;) |
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09/02/2008 06:28:20 PM · #22 |
Well thank you all for your responses... I believe I have the answer:
"Not even paid members can submit to both open challenges in a week"
I dont mean to point to any single response as being unclear, all of you did your best to explain, so I thank you, as a team.
I am no longer seeking another answer, unless its a different one:-)
Message edited by author 2008-09-02 18:30:30. |
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09/02/2008 07:11:42 PM · #23 |
I am sorry for opening this bag of worms again.. but while reading another thread on 'Rant' forum, I realised that having a larger submission pool will also benefit in another way: it will reduce bias due to friendly voting (if any:-)... so as the sample size increases, it becomes more and more difficult for people to introduce any bias due to their friends/pals voting in favor of their submissions. (I am not claiming that happens by the way.. the presumption is IF that happened, how to deal with it).
Lifting these rules may increase the number of submissions.. and then one might say that the 20% minimum votes rule will tire people out.. so for 500 submissions, it will cause one to rate 100 images. But wouldnt one want to be a 'fair' winner amongst 500 v/s just a couple hundreds (assuming friendly voting was present)?
Lifting this restriction seems like the right thing to do, to me personally... no pun intended.
Here is that other thread if you are interested.
Message edited by author 2008-09-02 19:12:55. |
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09/02/2008 10:46:09 PM · #24 |
| The main reason as I think may have been mentioned is that the challenges were getting rather huge. Some of us really enjoy voting an entire challenge, and it became simply too difficult to get through 500 entries every week. It's still a challenge to get through Free Studies, but they're only once a month so the effort can be made in that instance. |
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