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08/28/2008 03:09:25 AM · #1 |
I've been wondering about this for the longest time but couldn't be bothered to draw up an example. Are borders like the one below legal in Basic and/or Advanced?
Thanks a bunch!
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08/28/2008 03:17:09 AM · #2 |
Dunno, but the puppy's CUTE!!
(It's the texture I'm not sure about....) |
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08/28/2008 03:25:47 AM · #3 |
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08/28/2008 04:02:07 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Borders are stupid |
people who find borders generally stupid, are ... |
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08/28/2008 04:02:10 AM · #5 |
Thanks BeeCee, that is one of my brother and families dogs. His name is Squirt I believe, lol.
I've seen all types of borders, some I think add to the image, some distract. My interest is in knowing if a border needs to be the same width on all sides. I can see a Polaroid style border having its purpose. I originally thought of using it in the Portrait of a Camera challenge since I was trying for a vintage look.
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08/28/2008 04:08:38 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by togtog:
My interest is in knowing if a border needs to be the same width on all sides. . |
No.
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08/28/2008 04:23:07 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by togtog:
My interest is in knowing if a border needs to be the same width on all sides. . |
No. |
Awesome and thanks eyewave, also nice shot :)
So the only question is if the texture is allowed, however since Polaroid images also come in a plain gray it would be best to just use that. :)
Thanks again!
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08/28/2008 04:38:58 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Borders are stupid |
people who find borders generally stupid, are ... |
Stupid is..as stupid does.
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08/28/2008 05:25:21 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Borders are stupid |
people who find borders generally stupid, are ... |
Stupid is..as stupid does. |
I put my coffee in the fridge this morning while getting the milk and couldn't find it so I made myself another cup.
Message edited by author 2008-08-28 05:25:44. |
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08/28/2008 09:52:48 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by togtog:
My interest is in knowing if a border needs to be the same width on all sides. . |
No. |
It doesn't look like this one was validated, so there might still be a possibility that it's illegal, no? |
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08/28/2008 09:54:28 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by geinafets:
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by togtog:
My interest is in knowing if a border needs to be the same width on all sides. . |
No. |
It doesn't look like this one was validated, so there might still be a possibility that it's illegal, no? |
Wasn't the first time I did sth like this (even with ribboning pictures) |
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08/28/2008 09:57:09 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Bujanx:
I put my coffee in the fridge this morning while getting the milk and couldn't find it so I made myself another cup. |
Sounds like the stuff I do. I end up putting cereal in the fridge all the time. Yesterday I put the cheese dip into a cabinet instead of the fridge. :) |
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08/28/2008 10:08:59 AM · #13 |
That's ok, just don't put the milk in the cupboard and leave for the weekend.
oooo oooo that smell
Can't you smell that smell
oooo oooo that smell
The smell that surrounds you...
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08/28/2008 10:42:09 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by togtog:
Are borders like the one below legal in Basic and/or Advanced?
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Asymmetrical borders are legal in both Advanced and Basic as long as they're obviously borders and not used to extend the image area (change the composition of the image itself). Note that this one, while practically identical in technique to the purple flowers example, was recently DQ'd because the large black area wasn't considered an obvious border- it looks like a silhouetted wall within the image itself.
Also note that the textured background in your polaroid example would be a DQ if it was clip art or pasted from another photo. |
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08/28/2008 11:05:32 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by togtog:
Are borders like the one below legal in Basic and/or Advanced?
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Asymmetrical borders are legal in both Advanced and Basic as long as they're obviously borders and not used to extend the image area (change the composition of the image itself). Note that this one, while practically identical in technique to the purple flowers example, was recently DQ'd because the large black area wasn't considered an obvious border- it looks like a silhouetted wall within the image itself.
Also note that the textured background in your polaroid example would be a DQ if it was clip art or pasted from another photo. |
Isn't the SC's reason just a misinterpretation of the image concept Shannon? You may think it's a structure but I think it's a border. Seems iffy to me. I don't disagree with the dq but the reasons for coming to that decision are foggy to say the least.
If I have a thick vertical black line (which is actually a streetlight or any vertical object) in the center of my image will it be considered a structure too and DQ my shot? Let me clarify. Let's say I add a black border to my shot which has a thick black line running up vertically from top to bottom from a stop sign pole. Will it be considered a border thus making the shot two images rather than one?
Message edited by author 2008-08-28 11:11:14.
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08/28/2008 11:23:23 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Let's say I add a black border to my shot which has a thick black line running up vertically from top to bottom from a stop sign pole. Will it be considered a border thus making the shot two images rather than one? |
Kinda hard to visualize from your description, but splitting an image in two would be DQ'd. Your border must go around the outside edge of your entry, not through it (though inline borders are still OK). That clause was put in place specifically to close a loophole that allowed breaking up an image like this:
In general, a border used for any purpose other than as a frame around your entry is going to risk a DQ. That includes borders that match your background color used to extend image area and borders that appear to be an object captured within the image itself. |
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08/28/2008 11:43:51 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Isn't the SC's reason just a misinterpretation of the image concept Shannon? You may think it's a structure but I think it's a border. Seems iffy to me. I don't disagree with the dq but the reasons for coming to that decision are foggy to say the least. |
Seems reasonable to me; if it's not clear whether the suspect area is a border or a part of the image, then it's not a border. By definition, in DPC, a "border" must clearly set itself apart from the rest of the image.
R.
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08/28/2008 12:06:24 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Bujanx:
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
Borders are stupid |
people who find borders generally stupid, are ... |
Stupid is..as stupid does. |
I put my coffee in the fridge this morning while getting the milk and couldn't find it so I made myself another cup. |
Running to fridge to see if that is where I lost my coffee, thanks for the hint.... |
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08/28/2008 12:15:00 PM · #19 |
Not making any kind of judgement either way but I find it interesting that any time borders are discussed the comment I dislike borders comes out yet a lot of winners use them effectively. Four of the current 9 front page entries have them.
As for the OP's border I am not all that fond of borders that take over the image and to me this one might be to much especially with the texture. |
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08/28/2008 12:28:26 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Jac:
Let's say I add a black border to my shot which has a thick black line running up vertically from top to bottom from a stop sign pole. Will it be considered a border thus making the shot two images rather than one? |
Kinda hard to visualize from your description, but splitting an image in two would be DQ'd. Your border must go around the outside edge of your entry, not through it (though inline borders are still OK). That clause was put in place specifically to close a loophole that allowed breaking up an image like this:
In general, a border used for any purpose other than as a frame around your entry is going to risk a DQ. That includes borders that match your background color used to extend image area and borders that appear to be an object captured within the image itself. |
I can see the reasoning for this rule now that you've explained it that way. Thanks
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