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06/18/2008 03:20:11 AM · #1 |
| Does it matter how many power lines you clone out in advanced editing? |
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06/18/2008 03:44:18 AM · #2 |
| I'd think it would be more a matter of how major they were, wouldn't it? If you had two or three stuck in the background that would be different than if you had a bunch of high tension wires running through the middle of everything. |
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06/18/2008 04:19:37 AM · #3 |
sweet since someone brought this up I've been meaning to ask a related question...
say you took a photo of lightning and in the foreground are about 12 powerlines cutting across the image.
Is it legal to retouch (redraw) the parts of the lightning that were obscured by the lines? Such edits may not match where the bolt would have been pixel for pixel however would not be used to alter the impression of the lightning, i.e. no extra bolts or sparks which did not exist originally, none removed which existed in the original, as close to the original as possible.
Is this legal? |
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06/18/2008 10:22:30 AM · #4 |
My take on "incidental" is that they are in the background and just happened to be there in the framing. Not that they are front and center and a main focus of the image you actually captured.
I'm not saying it's illegal, just offering the guideline I use when editing for the challenges. |
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06/18/2008 10:24:09 AM · #5 |
If you have an entry that you are concerned about - I would post a pre-validation request to SC - submit a resized original image and the final edit and they will give you a position on the editing. They are very helpful in this area
Originally posted by egamble:
Does it matter how many power lines you clone out in advanced editing? |
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06/18/2008 10:25:07 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by bassbone:
If you have an entry that you are concerned about - I would post a pre-validation request to SC - submit a resized original image and the final edit and they will give you a position on the editing. They are very helpful in this area
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Ok, sounds good. Where is this request sent from? The challenge page? |
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06/18/2008 10:27:15 AM · #7 |
Go to Help --> Contact Us --> General Inquiry - and you can attached files to the message at the bottom of the page. They will send you an email for any further clarification.
Originally posted by egamble:
Originally posted by bassbone:
If you have an entry that you are concerned about - I would post a pre-validation request to SC - submit a resized original image and the final edit and they will give you a position on the editing. They are very helpful in this area
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Ok, sounds good. Where is this request sent from? The challenge page? |
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06/18/2008 10:29:08 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by bassbone:
Go to Help --> Contact Us --> General Inquiry - and you can attached files to the message at the bottom of the page. They will send you an email for any further clarification. |
OK. Great!
It will have to wait till after work. :p
but will do when i get home... |
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06/18/2008 10:38:18 AM · #9 |
Just to give you a general idea, the key word is "incidental"- something insignificant that intrudes into the scene. It's determined more by prominence and placement than number or size. A large power line running along the edge of your entry in the trees can probably go, while a smaller line running right through the middle of your entry might have to stay. Here's a single power line that would certainly result in DQ if cloned out:
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06/20/2008 03:22:49 AM · #10 |
The way I have and still take the meaning to be something that distracts from the main subject while not being required to the scene.
Example, that bird is hanging on a wire. The wire is a required element of the subject, removing it would change the subject. This shouldn't be allowed.
A cable holding something up, removal should also be disallowed.
Tightrope walker, without the rope, wrong just wrong.
A photo of the moon with powerlines in front, should be fixable, since the powerlines are not related to the moon and do not alter the subject when removed.
Same for clouds or lightning.
I think that should be the rule, if it is somehow required to the subject then it has to stay, otherwise clearing up the foreground to see the subject better should be allowed.
Anyone disagree? :)
Message edited by author 2008-06-20 03:23:28. |
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06/20/2008 03:59:14 AM · #11 |
Part of the learning bit is to teach us to think before we snap when we can - if the power lines run across the face of the moon, can you move or reframe so that they do not? Or so that only part of one line is there?
If you show the picture, both before and after, to someone, will they immediately remark on the things that have been removed or changed? The idea behind the rules is to preserve the integrity of the photograph; to keep it related to photography, not digital art. Make sense?
Edit to add - here's another one where removal of the power lines wouldn't be within editing rules, I don't think:
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Message edited by author 2008-06-20 04:03:23. |
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