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06/02/2008 09:02:29 PM · #1 |
This was found in the parking lot. I am in a discussion with a colleague of mine as to whether it is poison oak or not. I won't say who holds which opinion.
Who thinks it is? Who thinks it isn't and what it is instead?
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Message edited by author 2008-06-02 21:02:52. |
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06/02/2008 09:16:12 PM · #2 |
| looks like a young ash to me. |
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06/02/2008 09:23:52 PM · #3 |
I don't know if all poison oak leaves are the same, but around here they are shiny. Your pics do look similar to poison ivy.
edit because my wording was confusing.
Message edited by author 2008-06-02 21:25:34. |
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06/02/2008 09:25:17 PM · #4 |
| Not poison oak...wrong leaves...almost looks like a red bud...but I'm not a horticulturist, nor do I play one on TV. |
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06/02/2008 09:43:59 PM · #5 |
i went hiking today and saw some poison oak, and this doesnt look like what I saw, so i would say no its not. However - what do I know lol
the plant was... sticky lookin for lack of better words |
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06/02/2008 09:44:16 PM · #6 |
Leaves of three, leave it be....
I'm not sure what it is, but I know that we have something very similar here and if I touch it, I get an itchy rash. LOL! |
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06/02/2008 10:16:36 PM · #7 |
It's not poison oak, here is a picture of it Poison Oak This is a picture of poison ivy Poison Ivy
Message edited by author 2008-06-02 22:17:31. |
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06/02/2008 10:20:06 PM · #8 |
Thanks for the replies. Personally, I think it has a good chance of being poison oak. PO can be very amorphous in appearance. The biggest thing against is the lack of any lobation on the edges of the leaves. The biggest thing for is the groups of three leaves along with the new leaves being red and shiny. I think what you guys are showing me is mature poison oak which is easy to spot. PO early in its growth doesn't necessarily have those thick shiny leaves.
Other opinions? |
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06/02/2008 10:23:18 PM · #9 |
| What about the places where the tiny new leaves make groups of five - I don't know poison oak, but poison ivy doesn't do that, you couls always try the touch test to settle the bet if theres enough money riding on it. |
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06/02/2008 10:26:33 PM · #10 |
| I say it's not. No clue what it is, though. |
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06/02/2008 10:29:45 PM · #11 |
| Here is a shot of *new* poison oak so I still say it's not a match Poison Oak |
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06/02/2008 10:32:03 PM · #12 |
No to poison oak...we have so much of it around here and that is def not it. It really doesn't even look like young poison oak at all.
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06/02/2008 10:45:02 PM · #13 |
Doesn't look like either poison oak or ivy to me... the configuration of the leaves don't seem right.
I share Vtruan's view that this could be a young mountain ash.
Having said that, I still wouldn't touch it.
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06/02/2008 10:52:21 PM · #14 |
I'm nobody's expert on poisonous plant ID, but if I had to guess I'd say this isn't poison oak, possibly could be poison ivy. One way to know for sure but I'm not volunteering for that :)
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06/02/2008 10:54:27 PM · #15 |
rub a leaf up and down your ankle. If it turns purplish and looks like corrugated cardboard, hurting to the touch and itching like heck...it's poison oak! :) They give you benedril and cortizone or so I've heard...(whistles away)
Poison Oak and Ivy that I've always seen has a far more jagged leaf edge. |
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06/02/2008 11:18:30 PM · #16 |
definitely not poison-oak...the leaves aren't shaped right. i would either have to say it is box elder or poison-ivy. and if those little white flowers in your last photo belong to the same plant as the leaves then i would definitely say it's poison-ivy.
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06/02/2008 11:39:23 PM · #17 |
Rub some on your skin and find out. ;)
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06/03/2008 12:08:51 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by sher:
...the leaves aren't shaped right. |
I don't disagree with your conclusion, but FWIW the taxonomic name for Poison Oak is Toxicodendron diversaloba which roughly translates into "poisonous branch with many-shaped leaves."
Here are some links to pictures of poison oak.
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06/03/2008 09:20:14 AM · #19 |
| Looks like white ash to me, but the "friction test" would eliminate all doubt. ;-) |
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06/03/2008 10:19:28 AM · #20 |
I've had a couple of cases of poison-whatever, and they were SO BAD that I'm totally paranoid about it now. :-(
There's a lot of limestone in our area, well, pretty much totally limestone along the escarpment in our area, which makes a nice environment for poison ivy, at least. I'm constantly gritting my teeth while hiking with my kids, worried they'll get it. I'm afraid I'll make them paranoid. It's so hard for me to tell what is really what, so I just ask them to look out for anything with three leaves in that particular configuration. :-/
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06/03/2008 10:34:08 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
.... three leaves in that particular configuration. :-/ |
...which is almost everything. :-(
But no cases... yet. :-)
Message edited by author 2008-06-03 10:34:24.
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06/03/2008 11:05:03 AM · #22 |
i don't about poison oak, but if you think you've walked through some poison ivy, you have around 4 hours or so to get rid of the oil that causes the rash by washing with strong soap. like dish soap. at least that's what i have been told. i don't get it bad enough to worry about.
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I've had a couple of cases of poison-whatever, and they were SO BAD that I'm totally paranoid about it now. :-(
There's a lot of limestone in our area, well, pretty much totally limestone along the escarpment in our area, which makes a nice environment for poison ivy, at least. I'm constantly gritting my teeth while hiking with my kids, worried they'll get it. I'm afraid I'll make them paranoid. It's so hard for me to tell what is really what, so I just ask them to look out for anything with three leaves in that particular configuration. :-/
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06/03/2008 11:24:57 AM · #23 |
Not.......
Poison oak has "Oak" tree like leaves. This does not. Additionally, Poison Oak is normally found vining on something like trees, buildings and such. Poison Ivy is distinguished by a dark three leaf plant and can be found vining as well. I know this because I have both types in my yard and many experiences with both. The biggest danger is not the touching of the leaves, it is the burning. So if you are having a campfire or any fire, please make sure there are no vines on the logs you are burning. The absorbsion of the oil through this method is messy and in rare cases fatal. I have had this happen to me once and for weeks I looked like the Elephant Man because of the swelling.
Could be Poison Sumac but I am unfamiliar with that.
Anyway, my two cents......
Message edited by author 2008-06-03 11:26:25.
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06/03/2008 12:22:31 PM · #24 |
No, sorry. I live in the middle of nowhere up in the mountains. We gotta be careful of poison oak and ivy up here. It is neither, those are just young trees :)
I am not a specialist but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night :) |
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06/03/2008 01:18:22 PM · #25 |
Forget the soap. If I ever get it again I'm just going to amputate any affected body parts with a butter knife. That would be more pleasant for me. I usually strap the kids to the roof of the car and drive through a car wash after a hike, it's faster than giving them a bath. :-) Clothes-washing-machine is good for the kids too, and they really seem to enjoy the spin cycle. ;-)
Originally posted by soup:
i don't about poison oak, but if you think you've walked through some poison ivy, you have around 4 hours or so to get rid of the oil that causes the rash by washing with strong soap. like dish soap. at least that's what i have been told. i don't get it bad enough to worry about.
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I've had a couple of cases of poison-whatever, and they were SO BAD that I'm totally paranoid about it now. :-(
There's a lot of limestone in our area, well, pretty much totally limestone along the escarpment in our area, which makes a nice environment for poison ivy, at least. I'm constantly gritting my teeth while hiking with my kids, worried they'll get it. I'm afraid I'll make them paranoid. It's so hard for me to tell what is really what, so I just ask them to look out for anything with three leaves in that particular configuration. :-/
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