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10/28/2003 10:18:57 AM · #1 |
I guess this is more of a question than a comment.
I have some shots that I've recently uploaded to DPC Prints and want to make them available in 4x6, 5x7, and 8x10s. I know that these are 3 different aspect ratios and that I will upload 3 different high-res files at those aspect ratios. I get that.
But right now it looks like I have to have 3 different thumbnails in my portfolio, each with a different high-res file attached. And, although they are not yet approved, it looks like there are going to be 3 thumbnails of what is essentially the same shot in my storefront on DPC Prints. I think that's confusing. I have to have the keywords and descriptions in 3 different places, for example. And my images will come up 3 times in the searches.
My first question is: am I doing this correctly, or am I just stupid? I seem to be having the hardest time wrapping my head around posting prints online.
My second question is: wouldn't it make more sense to upload one thumbnail and be allowed to attach multiple high-res images (with various aspect ratios) to that one image? Then when someone is shopping they'll see one thumbnail, but see it's available in 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, etc...
Or should I just chuck it all and only offer one size?
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10/28/2003 10:50:39 AM · #2 |
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10/28/2003 10:54:32 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by muckpond:
Then when someone is shopping they'll see one thumbnail, but see it's available in 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, etc... |
Yes, but are you proposing that they see all 3 crops on the print view page as well? The difference between the aspect ratios is definitely noticable, and our main concern is that nobody gets something they didn't know they were getting.
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10/28/2003 11:00:14 AM · #4 |
It would be terrific if it was possible to associate multiple hi-res files at different aspect ratios with a single portfolio entry.
In order to show the differing crops, as the user selects their "print size" from the "Add to Cart" drop down menu, a little dynamic HTML could change the "preview" to the one appropriate for that print size.
In addition or alternatively, when there were multiple aspect ratios associated with an image, you could display an area to the right of the preview labeled "Preview as:", and have a button for each of the aspect ratios.
Perhaps something like this:
Message edited by author 2003-10-28 11:19:16. |
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10/28/2003 11:06:48 AM · #5 |
This suggestion too
I brought this up a few days ago.
Multiple images per portfolio image that show the different sizes/versions on the dpcprints page.
The original image could be designated as having more than one edition available. |
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10/28/2003 01:43:09 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by drewmedia:
Originally posted by muckpond:
Then when someone is shopping they'll see one thumbnail, but see it's available in 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, etc... |
Yes, but are you proposing that they see all 3 crops on the print view page as well? The difference between the aspect ratios is definitely noticable, and our main concern is that nobody gets something they didn't know they were getting. |
I know what you're saying, and I agree. But I still think there has to be a better way than to have 3 separate "products" available when, essentially, it's just the same photo. Maybe just some way to tie all of the related pictures into one, and then when the buyer clicks onto the page, show three different thumbnails?
I'm not trying to make life all difficult...I just found the process of uploading images at different aspect ratios pretty tedious. Plus it triples the effort that's put forth on the approval side of things.
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10/28/2003 01:53:50 PM · #7 |
...and another thing, my preview shots of my prints show terrible jpg distortion that should make the prints less sexy to buy. Maybe it would be better if we could self upload the preview pic?
...sorry for wandering off the subject |
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10/28/2003 02:16:51 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by tyrkinn:
...and another thing, my preview shots of my prints show terrible jpg distortion that should make the prints less sexy to buy. |
Off subject or not, this is the best complaint I've read!
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10/28/2003 04:28:56 PM · #9 |
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11/03/2003 08:31:07 AM · #10 |
| Does nobody have anything to say about this whole thing? (especially the jpg distortion...)? |
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11/03/2003 10:19:25 AM · #11 |
I keep having more prints I would like to have this option available for.
Message edited by author 2003-11-03 10:20:46.
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11/03/2003 10:23:59 AM · #12 |
Ask yourself this question.... If you were shopping for prints and you saw three different aspect ratios of the visible image available, would you buy it? You would likely want to know what the crop looks like before purchasing.
I agree that it would be nice to sell multiple aspect ratios under one heading, but a preview of the specific aspect ratio would be required as well.
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11/03/2003 10:31:03 AM · #13 |
great suggestions. I sell most of my stuff as 8x10s. But I would love to do 11x14s as well.
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11/03/2003 11:08:45 AM · #14 |
on this topic what's the easiest way to know the size you are cropping so it fits the specific ratios?
all the prints i have matted were custom matted - so i have really worried about specific dimensions - but more the look of the photo...
as it stands now i think i have to crop every image - the camera's stock size doesn't fit any of the ratios i dont think.
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11/03/2003 11:38:37 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by soup:
on this topic what's the easiest way to know the size you are cropping so it fits the specific ratios? |
That's why I crop it how I want it to look, and fill or pad it out with a border up to the next largest print size. Then I don't worry if the crop I want "fits" a particular print size. You can always use a background of white or gray if you don't want it so have so much of a bordered look. |
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11/03/2003 11:48:37 AM · #16 |
i suppose that would work, although you would potentially have an uneven border doing that. my problem is to start with a 29"x42" image ( i think ) its hard to know what the actual dimensions are until you do the crop - if i could see with the selection tool how big an area i am selecting ( dimension wise )it would be very helpful.
ans i would have to use the undo tool quite so much.
i am also not looking forward to uploading HIres files on a 28K dial up connection....
2 of the images in my sundays photos post are not cropped - and yet still dont fit any aspect ratios that i can see.
soup
Message edited by author 2003-11-03 11:49:53. |
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11/03/2003 11:53:25 AM · #17 |
soup: in most editing programs, when you are using the selection tool you can change the mode to "fixed aspect ratio" then type in 8x10 or 8x12 or whatever you want. This will let you choose the size of the area for crop while keeping the crop exactly to the right ratio. If you knock off 0.5 (eg 7.5x9.5 rather than 8x10) you can then expand the canvas to 8x10 later to get an even border all the way around. Hope this helps
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11/03/2003 12:10:04 PM · #18 |
| If you want to see what your "original" images look like, GoToPhoto offers prints in native digital sizes/aspect ratios. I've never used them, however, so I can't comment on either quality or reliability ... |
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11/03/2003 12:13:54 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Ask yourself this question.... If you were shopping for prints and you saw three different aspect ratios of the visible image available, would you buy it? You would likely want to know what the crop looks like before purchasing.
I agree that it would be nice to sell multiple aspect ratios under one heading, but a preview of the specific aspect ratio would be required as well. |
I agree that people need to see the exact crop. I don't mind uploading multiple low-res images, and I apologize if my first post indicated that. My main concern right now is not cluttering up my storefront with three images that look almost identical in thumbnail format. As I add more photos in, I'd like as many different shots on the pages as I can get, rather than have 12 thumbnails consisting of 4 different photos.
Not only that, but, as I said before, we also have to have the same set of keywords three times, the description is in there three times, all three images will come up while searching, etc....
Can we combine shots under one "heading"? I think it would be more efficient to the site overall.
Message edited by author 2003-11-03 12:15:00. |
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11/03/2003 09:31:24 PM · #20 |
| whoop...killed another thread |
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