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 05/16/2008 08:43:46 PM · #1
Seems like such a simple solution to many of the problems with people being offended by anything relating to these topics being discussed or any expressions of views that don't align with their own. Create a forum for each and make them IGNORABLE. Then nobody should have any excuse to complain about discussions occuring that do not have anything to do with them yet can't control themselves enough not to click on them and just end up whining about it.

This being an election year here in the US, I would recommend getting both of these up asap.

For myself, I am happy to just click, scan, ignore each thread that irks me.
 05/16/2008 08:52:52 PM · #2
I second it... but it probably won't happen, as it seems to stray too far from the photography aspect of the site.

Edit: Personal Life and Rant are the only distinctly non-photographic forums. General Discussion too, but it's also used for photography discussion.

Message edited by author 2008-05-16 20:54:22.
 05/16/2008 08:58:16 PM · #3
Good idea but where will the atheists go to talk since atheism isn't a religion nor is it politics?

Just nitpicking Art. ;\ It would have to be called something more universal like; Theism/Atheism/Agnostic/Politics

eta Agnostic...will this end lol

Sorry guys, I forgot ya's.

Message edited by author 2008-05-16 21:13:03.
 05/16/2008 09:04:09 PM · #4
Originally posted by Jac:
Good idea but where will the atheists go to talk since atheism isn't a religion nor is it politics?

Just nitpicking Art. ;\ It would have to be called something more universal like; Theism/Atheism/Politics


Don't forget Agnostic in there. We might as well call it the politically correct thread since we wouldn't want to exclude anyone ;)
 05/16/2008 09:07:47 PM · #5
Originally posted by Jac:
Good idea but where will the atheists go to talk since atheism isn't a religion nor is it politics?


EDIT: Nevermind

Message edited by author 2008-05-16 21:09:11.
 05/16/2008 09:15:45 PM · #6
Originally posted by Louis:
I second it... but it probably won't happen, as it seems to stray too far from the photography aspect of the site.

Edit: Personal Life and Rant are the only distinctly non-photographic forums. General Discussion too, but it's also used for photography discussion.


Third. Seems like a good way to allow those who want to talk (and argue, rant, wail, etc.) to continue to do so in an easily avoidable fashion by those who don't want any part of the messy business.
 05/16/2008 09:16:45 PM · #7
Most of these get moved to Rant, which is easily ignorable.

Probably the best way to let these threads die is to, well, let them die. If no one argued and it wasn't a way to get attention, there would be no payoff in participating in them, no?
 05/16/2008 09:27:18 PM · #8
I was just going to say that L2.

It is real easy. Just go to my home...my preferences...go to forum...then filer what you don't want on the front page.
Maybe everyone knows that, but it took me a few years to figure it out. :)
 05/16/2008 09:49:12 PM · #9
Every thread is ignorable....Top of every thread...THREAD OPTIONS...IGNORE. It works very well and I use it all the time.
 05/17/2008 02:44:36 AM · #10
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
For myself, I am happy to just click, scan, ignore each thread that irks me.

As stated, the current system works for me, but it very clearly does not work for many others. Whatever. Makes no sense to me to automatically move certain topics to rant or to allow people who could've & should've ignored the topic to get them moved. Again, whatever. Just an obvious and easy suggestion - maybe too much so.
 05/17/2008 05:16:04 AM · #11
I agree with Art. I have rant turned off so if a topic containing religion or politics happens to be posted and sent to rant before I can view it, I don't see it. And most of these topics are not considered rant by definition.

I think having these forums with the option to ignore them would be a great idea. That way at least I can see them before they get sent to rant and have control as to whether they stay on my homepage or not.
 05/17/2008 08:03:03 AM · #12
Originally posted by SDW:

I think having these forums with the option to ignore them would be a great idea. That way at least I can see them before they get sent to rant and have control as to whether they stay on my homepage or not.


And that already exists.
 05/17/2008 08:19:22 AM · #13
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by SDW:

I think having these forums with the option to ignore them would be a great idea. That way at least I can see them before they get sent to rant and have control as to whether they stay on my homepage or not.


And that already exists.

In a sense yes but with two exceptions.
1. If the thread gets posted and transfered to rant before I can view it I will not know the thread exist since I have rant turned off.
2. If the poster chooses to place the topic in rant because he or she knows it will be sent there; not because they want it there.

If I'm overlooking a DPC function (other than turning rant on) that would solve the above issues please let me know.

Thanks,
Scott

Edit: corrections

Message edited by author 2008-05-17 08:21:24.
 05/17/2008 10:25:10 AM · #14
Though I can certainly see the arguments in favor, my personal guess is that this would be unlikely to happen for a combination of two reasons.

First, the administrators feel quite strongly about keeping the number of forum sections manageable, and have been extremely reluctant to add new ones in the past. It took quite a bit of convincing, for example, to get what is now the Out & About folder added. Drew had serious doubts as to whether there would be enough activity to justify its creation. Even the argument that it would be good for community development wasn't enough, and I had to expand its scope and modify the description a bit to get it to fly.

Secopnd, our official position on political and religious threads is that they are not encouraged, but are permitted on a limited basis. Creation of political and religious discussion sections would send a mixed message, if for no other reason than that they would be the only topical sections not related to photography. As it stands now, if a participant gets a bit 'overzealous' in the posting of such threads, we can and do take steps to guide their behavior appropriately.

Combining the two reasons above, I suspect it would be just about impossible to make a convincing argument to the Administrators to dedicate one or two new forum sections to discussion topics when we are trying to minimize, rather than encourage, discussion of those topics, and when those topics are not at all related to the core purpose of the site.

~Terry
 05/17/2008 10:43:46 AM · #15
I've never seen that post before. It's very interesting. I never really realized that political[/religious] threads were loosely proscribed. They're awfully popular for obvious reasons, so I can see why outrighting banning such discussions would probably be a bad idea. It's also interesting to see that back in 2004, the "problem" we're currently enjoying was just gearing up, and the suggested solution was a forum section dedicated to political discussion. :) Some things never change.

Edit: it's also fun to read an old thread and see how many user names I don't recognize.

Message edited by author 2008-05-17 10:45:56.
 05/17/2008 10:46:23 AM · #16
It would be cool to have a spam-filter function to hide any thread with keywords of the user's choice.

Threads with our chosen terms would be instantly hidden as soon as the offending words appeared. Boolean would be cool.
 05/17/2008 11:07:08 AM · #17
hide "Strikeslip" = true

;-)
 05/17/2008 11:14:28 AM · #18
Originally posted by Louis:
hide "Strikeslip" = true

;-)

LOL!

hide +Louis +debate -sex = true
;-P
 05/17/2008 11:45:03 AM · #19
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Combining the two reasons above, I suspect it would be just about impossible to make a convincing argument to the Administrators to dedicate one or two new forum sections to discussion topics when we are trying to minimize, rather than encourage, discussion of those topics, and when those topics are not at all related to the core purpose of the site.


That gets my vote as "Best Summary of the Year" by an SC :-)

R.
 05/17/2008 11:54:43 AM · #20
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:
Combining the two reasons above, I suspect it would be just about impossible to make a convincing argument to the Administrators to dedicate one or two new forum sections to discussion topics when we are trying to minimize, rather than encourage, discussion of those topics, and when those topics are not at all related to the core purpose of the site.


That gets my vote as "Best Summary of the Year" by an SC :-)

R.

I'll second that.

Personally I feel that quite a bit of latitude is granted to the whining and screaming threads.
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