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 04/30/2008 08:41:57 PM · #26
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by slickchik:
Actually he is a Scotchman...from one of the toughest areas of Glasgow.


That would be Scotsman. ;o) Though he also could be a Scotch man if he acquired the taste for it.


LOL!!! Ooops.
 05/01/2008 10:28:29 AM · #27
Originally posted by slickchik:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by slickchik:
Actually he is a Scotchman...from one of the toughest areas of Glasgow.


That would be Scotsman. ;o) Though he also could be a Scotch man if he acquired the taste for it.


LOL!!! Ooops.


Wow, I'm already halfway through the book, had to force myself to put it down and get some sleep. GR had a tough, horrendous childhood and that's likely why he's fought so hard to better himself and, I suspect why he expects so much of others. I too applaud his perfectionism, and thank gawd he never visited the fine dining restaurant where I once worked in New Brunswick...all the entrees were frozen, he'd have torn my friends (whom I was helping to set up restaurant) to shreds. Oh well at least the salads and desserts were freshly made.

Yes, he is Scottish...but as his family moved around so much when he was young, esp to England, he picked up an English accent...and so got pounded for having an English accent when he lived in Scotland!!!
 05/01/2008 10:56:19 AM · #28
Originally posted by slickchik:
Actually he is a Scotchman...from one of the toughest areas of Glasgow.

Scots are British - as are the English and Welsh!
 05/01/2008 11:14:36 AM · #29
Originally posted by SaraR:
Scots are British - as are the English and Welsh!

Reminds me of a dialogue I overheard:

- American: I just saw Jane.
- Scot: Which Jane?
- American: British Jane!
- Scot (darkly): You mean English Jane.
05/01/2008 11:20:53 AM · #30
Originally posted by citymars:
Originally posted by SaraR:
Scots are British - as are the English and Welsh!

Reminds me of a dialogue I overheard:

- American: I just saw Jane.
- Scot: Which Jane?
- American: British Jane!
- Scot (darkly): You mean English Jane.


LOL - I like that.

Many Americans you see being interviewed on UK chat shows refer to the UK as "England", which really pisses off those of us from the Celtic areas (Wales,Scotland and N.Ireland)!!!
 05/01/2008 11:22:53 AM · #31
Originally posted by slickchik:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by slickchik:
Actually he is a Scotchman...from one of the toughest areas of Glasgow.


That would be Scotsman. ;o) Though he also could be a Scotch man if he acquired the taste for it.


LOL!!! Ooops.


But no Scotsman would ever call a drink 'Scotch'. It's Whisky and that's the end of it.
 05/01/2008 10:07:32 PM · #32
SaraR, my mum is English and dad is 'black' Irish (Spanish/Irish), and I have been to the UK several times and naturally been exposed to that culture for the last oh 41 years.

I know you mean well, but listen to pix-al...yes, English, Scots, Welsh and Irish are all Brits in that they are part of Great Britian...but never ever EVER use the term 'British' when in fact you really mean the English!!! Historically, the English made life pure living hell for the Scots, Irish and Welsh, treated them like crap. I'm not going to wade into the deep and rather complex waters of BRITISH history. I'll leave that to pix-al and others.

I recall a saying that each time an Englishman opens his mouth, he makes another Englishman despise him. So true.

Ramsay is Scottish by birth, but travelled and lived extensively in England as a child and thus has much more of an English accent than a Scottish burr. Hence he had the crap kicked out of him by his Scottish mates, cause though he is of Scottish heritage, they regarded him as an Englishman, based solely on his accent. Not fair of course, but that's how it's been for centuries and still is today.

Funnily enough I am often mistaken for Irish as I have a brogue from my Dad yet I've never even been to Ireland!!! I do plan to travel there, someday, and am curious to see where the real Irish think I'm from.

Ok history lesson over, going to go read remainder of GR's autobiog.
 05/01/2008 11:10:05 PM · #33
Originally posted by snaffles:
yes, English, Scots, Welsh and Irish are all Brits in that they are part of Great Britian...


Actually, snaffles the Irish are not part of Great Britain. The official name of our country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, but not part of Great Britain. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. Just to clarify as it's a mistake many people make.
 05/02/2008 10:15:49 AM · #34
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by snaffles:
yes, English, Scots, Welsh and Irish are all Brits in that they are part of Great Britian...


Actually, snaffles the Irish are not part of Great Britain. The official name of our country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is part of the UK, but not part of Great Britain. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. Just to clarify as it's a mistake many people make.


you're absolutely right, of course, that shows my lamentable lack of knowledge on the topic!
 05/02/2008 10:49:32 AM · #35
my favorite part of that video interview. . .?

*Ramsay lifts shirt and smacks his gorgeous abs*

**SUPERGRIN**

:o)
 05/02/2008 10:54:40 AM · #36
Originally posted by snaffles:
Wow, he's a goodlooking bastard! Love Hell's Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares.


You need to have your eye's tested, he defo aint good looking!!! Lol.
 05/02/2008 11:26:11 AM · #37
Originally posted by snaffles:
SaraR, my mum is English and dad is 'black' Irish (Spanish/Irish), and I have been to the UK several times and naturally been exposed to that culture for the last oh 41 years.

I know you mean well, but listen to pix-al...yes, English, Scots, Welsh and Irish are all Brits in that they are part of Great Britian...but never ever EVER use the term 'British' when in fact you really mean the English!!!
.......etc....
Ok history lesson over, going to go read remainder of GR's autobiog.

Snaffles, my comment was in relation to a post that corrected BHuseman who had stated that Ramsey was British, which indeed he is.

Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by slickchik:
Actually he is a Scotchman...from one of the toughest areas of Glasgow.

Scots are British - as are the English and Welsh!


05/02/2008 03:55:41 PM · #38
Originally posted by snaffles:
... I have been to the UK several times ...



Well that will make you an expert and no mistake.
 05/02/2008 04:27:40 PM · #39
Originally posted by snaffles:
never ever EVER use the term 'British' when in fact you really mean the English!!! Historically, the English made life pure living hell for the Scots, Irish and Welsh, treated them like crap. I'm not going to wade into the deep and rather complex waters of BRITISH history. I'll leave that to pix-al and others.


It is more the other way around - the English don't mind being referred to as British, but sometimes our conquered and subjugated neighbours resent being reminded of that fact... ;-)

However, back on topic - nice photos Louis. The thing about Gordon Ramsey is that his restaurants do turn out some really rather good food, which pretty much justifies his attitude.

05/02/2008 05:05:56 PM · #40
Originally posted by Mr_Pants:
Originally posted by snaffles:
... I have been to the UK several times ...



Well that will make you an expert and no mistake.


Pants, I have made it quite clear that I am NOT an expert on British history, social attitudes etc. But yeah, seeing that Mum is 100% English and Dad black Irish, and that they raised us on kippers, roast beef, yorkshire pud, Marmite, Guinness, even Twiglets - hell my childhood nickname was Twiglet, fer chrissake - and they made us aware of the very basics if the British class system, and oh yes I have spent approx. a grand total of 3 years living, working and travelling around the UK...yes, I feel that I have SOME thoughts and background on the topic.

And I continue to maintain that GR is a handsome sod, and I LOVE it whenever he takes his shirt off. Wouldn't mind seeing more!!! :-)

Message edited by author 2008-05-02 17:07:09.
 05/02/2008 05:49:28 PM · #41
I do love reading things between the Scots and English.

I'm Scottish, proud, honoured and I love being so. I HATE having to put British on certain forms, but in no way do I hate the English. (My best mate, who's a member here too) is English and although we joke about his nationality, it doesn't come between us (although when Scotland actually beat England at football I had to send him several text messages reminding him of the scores!!)

Back to Gordon Ramsay - I never liked his programmes on TV because of the swearing, but hearing him on Radio One and other interviews I am starting to like him. I do think it's funny that his wife also has several cookery books out...
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