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04/07/2008 11:54:11 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by quiapz: I guess if people still want to argue that red can be cool, all they have to do is show a cool red. No, not a violet... not a purple... not a magenta... but a red... a cool red. |
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04/08/2008 12:06:48 AM · #52 |
I would bet that we find out what's warm or cool for sure when the challenge voting ends. There will be no room for argument after that.
Yeah,,,,,,,, Right : )
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04/08/2008 07:00:51 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti: [snip]
If my car were clean I'd take a picture of it. It's red with a blue undertone so on the cool side. (in more ways than one. ;o)) |
Exactly! But I couldn't find an auto paint color chart on line as an example and fingernail polish...forget it.
Ford/Mercury had a red color, A4-Cardinal Red and it was pretty true to red, but the Mustang red was a much cooler red, yet not in any way shape or form a purple or maroon. It's just hard to show the warm/cool thing...but, the challenge shows that most of the entries got it. ;) |
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04/09/2008 01:14:18 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by quiapz: I guess if people still want to argue that red can be cool, all they have to do is show a cool red. No, not a violet... not a purple... not a magenta... but a red... a cool red. |
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how is that a cool red? |
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04/09/2008 01:27:56 AM · #55 |
I'm coming into this way late, and obviously the voting is finished, but I want to stick my oar in the water and say ABSOLUTELY there can be such a thing as a cool red or a warm blue. In the middle of this thread someone posted some makeup palettes, and they show this ABSOLUTELY if you're willing to drop your prejudices and look at the two palettes objectively. Anyone who says all reds are warm colors and all blues are cool colors does not understand designing with color at all.
Period.
There can be no debate on this, it's ridiculous to take that position. Seriously. Generations of architects and interior designers are laughing at you (you know who you are)...
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04/09/2008 10:32:07 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by quiapz: Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by quiapz: I guess if people still want to argue that red can be cool, all they have to do is show a cool red. No, not a violet... not a purple... not a magenta... but a red... a cool red. |
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how is that a cool red? |
Blue undertones ;oS |
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04/09/2008 10:35:00 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: There can be no debate on this, it's ridiculous to take that position. Seriously. Generations of architects and interior designers are laughing at you (you know who you are)... |
I don't think it is ridiculous - rather, I find the 'cool red' and 'warm blue' position ridiculous. It's all ridiculous because you're all arguing about something that is 100% subjective and on some levels has no more 'proof' or supporting evidence than the existence of a deity, hence my philosophical quip earlier.
What anyone individually experiences as a cool red is a personal interpretation of that colour, just in the same way one abstracts and interprets a photograph.
On the Design, Colour Psychology and various Colour Theory fronts, there are most definitely warm and cool colours (reds being warm, blues being cool). You ask 100 architects or interior designers about the effect of painting a space red or blue and see what kind of responses you get. Ask them how much warmth is conveyed by a blue space. I think you'll have an extraordinarily hard time finding many to support the 'warm blue' argument.
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04/09/2008 10:36:35 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: I'm coming into this way late, and obviously the voting is finished, but I want to stick my oar in the water and say ABSOLUTELY there can be such a thing as a cool red or a warm blue. In the middle of this thread someone posted some makeup palettes, and they show this ABSOLUTELY if you're willing to drop your prejudices and look at the two palettes objectively. Anyone who says all reds are warm colors and all blues are cool colors does not understand designing with color at all.
Period.
There can be no debate on this, it's ridiculous to take that position. Seriously. Generations of architects and interior designers are laughing at you (you know who you are)...
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That's what I thought too, but voters thought otherwise...and I have one of my worst scores EVER in 4 years of submitting to challenges here. Perhaps someone can now show me how the colors in this image are warm instead of cool. BTW... I did NOT misunderstand and think "awesome" colors instead of "cool" colors. :)
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04/09/2008 10:37:41 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: ... There can be no debate on this ... |
It appears you stand corrected. LOL :-D |
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04/09/2008 10:38:05 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by Quasimojo: Originally posted by Bear_Music: There can be no debate on this, it's ridiculous to take that position. Seriously. Generations of architects and interior designers are laughing at you (you know who you are)... |
I don't think it is ridiculous - rather, I find the 'cool red' and 'warm blue' position ridiculous. It's all ridiculous because you're all arguing about something that is 100% subjective and on some levels has no more 'proof' or supporting evidence than the existence of a deity, hence my philosophical quip earlier.
What anyone individually experiences as a cool red is a personal interpretation of that colour, just in the same way one abstracts and interprets a photograph.
On the Design, Colour Psychology and various Colour Theory fronts, there are most definitely warm and cool colours (reds being warm, blues being cool). You ask 100 architects or interior designers about the effect of painting a space red or blue and see what kind of responses you get. Ask them how much warmth is conveyed by a blue space. I think you'll have an extraordinarily hard time finding many to support the 'warm blue' argument.
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Depends on how true blue it is. Now if it weren't a true blue it would probably have some weird designer name and could be considered warm if certain other colours are present in the mix. ;oP |
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04/09/2008 10:40:14 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by L1: ... Perhaps someone can now show me how the colors in this image are warm instead of cool. BTW... I did NOT misunderstand and think "awesome" colors instead of "cool" colors. :)
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Pink IS a warm color, isn't it? I saw several others in the 'Warm' challenge with pink as a primary. |
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04/09/2008 10:42:05 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by L1: Red, pink, purple, orange...those can be cool as well, depending upon how they are mixed with other colors. Please don't paint this challenge with such a broad brush. |
Just went back to the OP to look for color charts and saw this (second post in this thread)...now it makes sense. :-) |
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04/09/2008 10:42:48 AM · #63 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: Pink IS a warm color, isn't it? I saw several others in the 'Warm' challenge with pink as a primary. |
Just because you saw them there doesn't make pink a definitively warm color. Look at the makeup palettes that Bear referred to in his post, down in this thread somewhere. Pink can most definitely be cool...look at the undertones. |
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04/09/2008 10:43:45 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: Originally posted by L1: ... Perhaps someone can now show me how the colors in this image are warm instead of cool. BTW... I did NOT misunderstand and think "awesome" colors instead of "cool" colors. :)
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Pink IS a warm color, isn't it? I saw several others in the 'Warm' challenge with pink as a primary. |
Pink on the color wheel is warm. But, as it has been pointed out to me, with pink you would get DNMC'd to death in either challenge. L1 went by feel, I went by the color wheel.
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04/09/2008 10:49:06 AM · #65 |
Originally posted by L1: Originally posted by glad2badad: Pink IS a warm color, isn't it? I saw several others in the 'Warm' challenge with pink as a primary. |
Just because you saw them there doesn't make pink a definitively warm color. Look at the makeup palettes that Bear referred to in his post, down in this thread somewhere. Pink can most definitely be cool...look at the undertones. |
Well, IMO, pink is "mostly" warm...yes, it can take on a cool tone as well depending on presentation I'm sure.
I did find the post I was looking for (by UrfaTheGreat on 04/02/08 around 10:30am) with the color charts. Guess what? There's shades of pink in both of them! :-D
edit to fix user link.
Message edited by author 2008-04-09 10:50:31. |
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04/09/2008 10:57:19 AM · #66 |
Challenge: "Create a photograph composed primarily of cool colors"
I guess that green is not so cool either. My thought was that the challenge was to be about color more than about having a single object as a subject.
People were confused by this because they were not led directly to a single major subject. It ended up the 2nd lowest score ever for me.
Message edited by author 2008-04-09 10:58:05.
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04/09/2008 05:56:11 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by quiapz: Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by quiapz: I guess if people still want to argue that red can be cool, all they have to do is show a cool red. No, not a violet... not a purple... not a magenta... but a red... a cool red. |
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how is that a cool red? |
I was going for something more the color of a raspberry Sno-Cone® than a branding iron ... |
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