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03/19/2008 07:54:01 PM · #1 |
I think I might have misunderstood the challenge. I thought the fence just had to be an element in the shot, not the subject of the shot.
"Good fences make good neighbors, but do they make good photographs? Make a photograph that features a fence in the composition."
I took the wording "features a fence" to mean it's a main element of the picture but not necessarily the subject. What does everyone think?
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03/19/2008 07:56:04 PM · #2 |
That's definitely one interpretation but there will be others and you may get slammed for not having the fence as the main subject.
To each their own though. |
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03/19/2008 07:57:40 PM · #3 |
| you understood the challenge correctly, but some of the people here will hammer you if they think your entry doesn't have enough fence in it which is why I avoided that one |
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03/19/2008 08:01:27 PM · #4 |
Mine is all about the fence and STILL I GET HAMMERED but I like my fence shot and so do my kids:)
MAX! |
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03/19/2008 08:02:16 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Quigley:
Mine is all about the fence and STILL I GET HAMMERED but I like my fence shot and so do my kids:)
MAX! |
that's what matters |
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03/19/2008 08:03:15 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by kleski:
Originally posted by Quigley:
Mine is all about the fence and STILL I GET HAMMERED but I like my fence shot and so do my kids:)
MAX! |
that's what matters |
Thank you!! |
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03/19/2008 08:03:36 PM · #7 |
I'm with you on this one  ttreit. the challenge isn't "take a picture of a fence", its '...features a fence in the composition". Wait till the winners are announced, and I think we'll see three pictures of fences on the front page.
Message edited by author 2008-03-19 20:04:06. |
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03/19/2008 08:07:29 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by ttreit:
I think I might have misunderstood the challenge. I thought the fence just had to be an element in the shot, not the subject of the shot.
"Good fences make good neighbors, but do they make good photographs? Make a photograph that features a fence in the composition."
I took the wording "features a fence" to mean it's a main element of the picture but not necessarily the subject. What does everyone think? |
Your interpretation is correct. Unfortunately some people don't even read the challenge description when they vote, they simple see the challenge title and vote accordingly? |
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03/19/2008 08:08:37 PM · #9 |
I think it should be a primary element. Maybe not always the object in focus but it should add to the composition of the image.
I like to see photographers streaching themselves. For example I love taking portraits but this site challenged me to start looking into other types and I have discovered that I love HDR landscape images. As long as I dont feel an photographer is just trying to scrape by with the challenge by slipping a fence in the background I wont vote against for it not being a picture of JUST a fence
For example there were some that had animals behind fences and you could barely make out the fence but I felt that the fence added to what the photographer was trying to get across of the animal being wild but of wait there is a fence trapping it. You see?
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03/19/2008 09:03:07 PM · #10 |
Sometimes you just have to laugh!
My first and so far only comment,
"Nice colors. but i think the main object here is the nature!
I knew I should have taken a photo of my indoor fence!
LOL
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03/19/2008 09:17:20 PM · #11 |
I took it as a challenge to make a fence a main part of the image, yet not necessarily just a boring old fence.
I've seen a lot of nice interpretations of the challenge that didn't occur to me and I've been voting the ones that seem to demonstrate creativity well because of it.
I'm one who likes to see interpretations that I didn't have as it inspires me to reach more. |
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03/19/2008 09:52:21 PM · #12 |
I disagree that a fence has to be the main subject or even the primary element. However, it should serve a significant role in the photograph. For example, it could serve as a compositional element (ex. a leading line) or reveal something about the subject matter by it's presence.
That said, like every other challenge if you have enough wow factor and eye candy you can get away with the fence being as small as sensor dust and be as meaningful. |
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03/19/2008 11:17:16 PM · #13 |
A fence is most assuredly the subject of my composition -- little else is visible. I've gone from a 5.4 this morning to a 4.8 right about now. Go figure.
EDIT: And no comments, of course.
Message edited by author 2008-03-19 23:17:53. |
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03/19/2008 11:29:39 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by ttreit:
I took the wording "features a fence" to mean it's a main element of the picture but not necessarily the subject. |
You, yourself, interpreted it as saying "a main element". However, that phrase contains conflicting words. "Main" implies one. There cannot be more than one "main" something.
Dictionary: "chief in size, extent, or importance; principal; leading: the company's main office; the main features of a plan."
So, based on this, I would believe that a fence would have to be the main object in the composition.
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03/19/2008 11:44:50 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by ttreit:
I think... I thought... What does everyone think? |
I think this kind of thread is a bunch of posturing for whatever type of challenge entry people have entered.
He thinks this, she thinks that...blah, blah, blah.
Come on people. Make up your own mind and vote accordingly. Geesh!
I do have to say that the entertainment value of this kind of thread is high after the challenge. Come back and see how comments match up to what's been entered on an individual basis. :-) |
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03/19/2008 11:49:32 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Come back and see how comments match up to what's been entered on an individual basis. :-) |
I posted my prediction ;)
Originally posted by ZeppKash:
Wait till the winners are announced, and I think we'll see three pictures of fences on the front page. |
What does everybody else think the winners will be, pictures OF fences, or pictures WITH fences?
If you have to ask the difference, please, just don't. |
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03/20/2008 12:06:33 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by ttreit:
I think... I thought... What does everyone think? |
I think this kind of thread is a bunch of posturing for whatever type of challenge entry people have entered.
He thinks this, she thinks that...blah, blah, blah.
Come on people. Make up your own mind and vote accordingly. Geesh!
I do have to say that the entertainment value of this kind of thread is high after the challenge. Come back and see how comments match up to what's been entered on an individual basis. :-) |
Since I don't have an entry my opinion carries more weight therefore I win! Any chance you have a ribbon for me? |
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03/20/2008 12:10:11 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Since I don't have an entry my opinion carries more weight therefore I win! Any chance you have a ribbon for me? |
:-) Sorry, no ribbon from me - however, they're giving them out rather freely here. :-D |
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03/20/2008 12:21:44 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
Unfortunately some people don't even read the challenge description when they vote, they simple see the challenge title and vote accordingly? |
Bingo. If there's ever a conflict between the most obvious interpretation of the challenge title and the challenge details, AND you want to score highly, go with the title only.
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03/20/2008 12:30:17 AM · #20 |
| Well I took picture of both interpretations and ended up going with the one where the fence was the only subject because I liked it the most. Personally I dont it really matters as long as there is a fence somewhere in the shot. |
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03/20/2008 01:50:15 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by ttreit:
I took the wording "features a fence" to mean it's a main element of the picture but not necessarily the subject. |
You, yourself, interpreted it as saying "a main element". However, that phrase contains conflicting words. "Main" implies one. There cannot be more than one "main" something. |
Sure there can. When you take a picture of two people, you might say the "main" subject is the group, but you could just as validly say that there are two "main" subjects.
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Dictionary: "chief in size, extent, or importance; principal; leading: the company's main office; the main features of a plan."
So, based on this, I would believe that a fence would have to be the main object in the composition. |
I see what you're saying, but that definition does not suggest exclusivity. Two subjects of equal size or importance can be a part of an image and both satisfy that definition as being main subjects.
Not to argue with you, but just for the sake of discussion.
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03/20/2008 02:24:38 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by geoffb:
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by ttreit:
I took the wording "features a fence" to mean it's a main element of the picture but not necessarily the subject. |
You, yourself, interpreted it as saying "a main element". However, that phrase contains conflicting words. "Main" implies one. There cannot be more than one "main" something. |
Sure there can. When you take a picture of two people, you might say the "main" subject is the group, but you could just as validly say that there are two "main" subjects.
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Dictionary: "chief in size, extent, or importance; principal; leading: the company's main office; the main features of a plan."
So, based on this, I would believe that a fence would have to be the main object in the composition. |
I see what you're saying, but that definition does not suggest exclusivity. Two subjects of equal size or importance can be a part of an image and both satisfy that definition as being main subjects.
Not to argue with you, but just for the sake of discussion. |
Agreed. I can see both sides of this argument. :-(
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03/20/2008 03:03:47 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
Originally posted by ttreit:
I think I might have misunderstood the challenge. I thought the fence just had to be an element in the shot, not the subject of the shot.
"Good fences make good neighbors, but do they make good photographs? Make a photograph that features a fence in the composition."
I took the wording "features a fence" to mean it's a main element of the picture but not necessarily the subject. What does everyone think? |
Your interpretation is correct. Unfortunately some people don't even read the challenge description when they vote, they simple see the challenge title and vote accordingly? |
Umm "feature" and "main" are not the same thing. I don't know what's worse people who ignore the descriptions entirely or those who misunderstand them. |
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03/20/2008 03:30:41 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by keegbow:
Originally posted by ttreit:
I think I might have misunderstood the challenge. I thought the fence just had to be an element in the shot, not the subject of the shot.
"Good fences make good neighbors, but do they make good photographs? Make a photograph that features a fence in the composition."
I took the wording "features a fence" to mean it's a main element of the picture but not necessarily the subject. What does everyone think? |
Your interpretation is correct. Unfortunately some people don't even read the challenge description when they vote, they simple see the challenge title and vote accordingly? |
Umm "feature" and "main" are not the same thing. I don't know what's worse people who ignore the descriptions entirely or those who misunderstand them. |
I don't know what's worse people who think they are right all the time or people who don't care what other people think.
Why be so pedantic!!! who cares about defining words if it's got a fence in it then it meets the challenge.
Message edited by author 2008-03-20 03:31:55. |
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03/20/2008 03:45:24 AM · #25 |
Wow I didn't think it was that technical of a question, lol.
By "a main element" I meant a key element, though not necessarily the subject. So for example with a picture of a dog, child, and adult all standing in front of a house I would consider the dog, child, adult, and house to be the main elements while the flowerpot and doormat on the house's porch would be ancillary. Does that make sense?
Perhaps the focus is on the child so the child is really the subject of the photo, the dog, adult, and house are prominent elements, and the flowerpot is still just ancillary.
But as noted in this thread some people interpreted the challenge to mean the fence had to be the subject, while others felt it just needed to be important to the piece. It's interesting to me to see how different people viewed it.
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