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03/17/2008 09:19:55 PM · #1
take some children( appprox 10 years old ) who have expressed an interest in photography for some sessions at school.
I have proposed 6 one and a half hours sessions culminating in a presenataion at assembly of a slideshow made by them showcasing their images.
The school has one digital camera a point and shoot Sony Cybershot I think. I will be using photostory for the slideshow.
This needs to be only a very basic introductory course

A few questions

Can anyone point me in the direction of some good websites that have good resources that are approriate for children especially with good and bad photos?

These are the subjects i have come up with so far

How to use the camera
Move in closer
Background
Light
Composition

Any others I should be covering?

Can anyone think of some good topics the children could use to base their images around it will need to be achievable in the school grounds?

Do you know of any good websites that are approriate for children and have images that would inspire and interest them?

Anyhting else I have forgotten to ask?


03/17/2008 09:29:00 PM · #2
Do you think they will be able to stay focused for an hour and a half session? It seems a little long for children at that age group. Just a thought; I remember taking my nephew fishing at that age and it was pure torture, especially since the fish weren't biting. Maybe if you try to make a game out of it somehow?
03/17/2008 09:35:33 PM · #3
I did a sort of class like this at the Boys and Girls Club. Their attention span could not last more than about 40 minutes unless there was an actual hands on exercise (camera on a tripod, lots of props and shooting still life's was the best).

I still have the book I made, it was very basic and well illustrated with photos from DPC. I could scan it for you to give you an idea of what I used.
03/17/2008 09:35:52 PM · #4
I think with kids that old... your going to have problems with a single camera & more then 2-3 kids (particularly boys... yeah the PC police have no clue but they are different from girls and generally are more hands on types).

I know digi is where you prefer to be but maybe some disposables & talk to the local photo place and see if you can get some free/cheap developing. Otherwise, can you get any more digi's?
03/17/2008 09:40:07 PM · #5
Lol its in the afternoon session by the time they get there from lunch and have to go back again to tidy up for the end of the day, it will be at least 20 mins less. Theer will be four girls all very well behaved, I am a teacher and they know me as a teacher. I am not too worried about there concentration or sharing of resources. I am hoping a couple of the kids will have their own camera.

Barbara would love a copy of the book thanks :D

Thanks for all your comments so far :)
03/17/2008 09:45:06 PM · #6
I did a class like this years ago. I collected a bunch of Instamatic cameras, only to find out that film for them was unavailable. No problem. Six kids used empty cameras and they rotated the one digital. No one seemed to mind snapping away at nothing.
03/17/2008 09:45:49 PM · #7
Let me get the scanner fired up. May be tomorrow before I get to it.
03/17/2008 10:27:07 PM · #8
I'd be worried if you only had one camera available. I think getting some disposable film cameras would be a good idea, though more expensive when it comes to getting the photos developed.
Give them a good grounding in Composition. ;-)
03/17/2008 10:56:56 PM · #9
Another topic could be choosing a subject.
03/17/2008 11:10:51 PM · #10
You could have them shoot items that are their favorite color...Have them look around for things red or blue.. Whatever they chose.. Or, tree's, leaves, grass, weeds.. Easy stuff for them to see at their level.. Bugs !! stuff like that.. Sounds like fun..
03/17/2008 11:12:33 PM · #11
You may want to discuss flash i/e when to use it, how far it reaches in dark situations, blowing out the nearest things in the frame, existing light to not surprise the subject ect.
The difference in light color quality i/e daylight, florescent, tungsten, may be a little on the edge for 10 yr olds but they may understand when they experiment.
A little bit about processing would be nice too, if you have a computer handy to show them different results from the same image when they shoot with the digital.
Check with the local service clubs, camera stores, and possibly local newspaper, and you may be able to corner a couple more P&S digital cams for the course.
03/18/2008 12:44:35 AM · #12
Thanks for your ideas :D
03/18/2008 02:17:46 AM · #13
This morning I taught 3 Grade 6 classes, one after the other. 40 minute sessions. On Thursday I do the same for 3 Grade 7 classes. I then have to repeat the classes each week for 3 weeks with 150+ students.

I am aiming at Multiculture, so this week I explained Lighting, Angles and Composition and then took them outside with 5 cameras (supplied by the school) and they had a ball. They learnt so much and their creativity was fantastic....once I unleashed the standard snapshottish rules that seem to abound people these days. They are so keen for me to come back. I even faced the bullies and they were tripping over themselves to help me by the end.

Next week I am taking in Multiculture still life for them to set up and photograph and then the third week I am taking in people dressed in Tradition Dress from different countries so they can photograph some live subjects.

Even the teachers are commenting that they are now looking at things differently.

So go with something simple...don't worry about settings...Automatic is fine. Unleash their creativity and over time their enthusiasm will guide them to learn more about settings.

Go with a topic that is within their current curriculum. Ask the school for more information on that.

But most importantly...have fun with them. Get down on the ground and SHOW them what you want....don't just tell them.

Good luck.
03/18/2008 12:51:04 PM · #14
I teach high school photography, and you'll have to keep it really simple with 10 year olds. Kids learn MUCH slower than adults and photography, lighting, composition, etc. are pretty abstract subjects.

Here would be my take on it.... I would maybe do a scavanger hunt style shoot, try to find a flower, something red, a portrait, a profile. If you only have one camera go out as a group and just have the kids shout out when they need the camera because they've found something. For the first round of shots, practice keeping the camera steady, and/or getting an in focus shot.

THEN, once you've shot once, load up the pictures and figure out which ones are best and why. Kinda a mini critique style with questions like "we like this one the best, why?"

Make it more fun than serious, and maybe at the end even create a Flickr group--just make sure you get permission if you post any of their pictures on the internet from the school and parents.
03/18/2008 01:36:35 PM · #15
Originally posted by tpbremer:

I teach high school photography, and you'll have to keep it really simple with 10 year olds. Kids learn MUCH slower than adults and photography, lighting, composition, etc. are pretty abstract subjects.

Here would be my take on it.... I would maybe do a scavanger hunt style shoot, try to find a flower, something red, a portrait, a profile. If you only have one camera go out as a group and just have the kids shout out when they need the camera because they've found something. For the first round of shots, practice keeping the camera steady, and/or getting an in focus shot.

THEN, once you've shot once, load up the pictures and figure out which ones are best and why. Kinda a mini critique style with questions like "we like this one the best, why?"

Make it more fun than serious, and maybe at the end even create a Flickr group--just make sure you get permission if you post any of their pictures on the internet from the school and parents.


Thanks thats a great idea!
03/18/2008 01:58:05 PM · #16
If you don't have enough cameras you could arm them with card cutout rectangles to represent the viewfinder. It would help to communicate composition as they block out distracting parts of their view, or move to "zoom" in on things.

Just make sure both you and they have fun :)
03/18/2008 02:16:08 PM · #17
They will probably all have cell phones with 3 megapixel cameras built in anyway!

I would keep it simple and probably go with composition first as this is something they may be familiar with through art classes and is non-technical.

Good luck, and please share the results!
03/18/2008 02:38:24 PM · #18
Originally posted by tpbremer:

... If you only have one camera go out as a group and just have the kids shout out when they need the camera because they've found something....

From my experience of working with this age group, I would agree with everything tpbremer has said, but would add to be aware of the less vocal children who will be itching to have a go, but are not very assertive.

edit - grammar

Message edited by author 2008-03-18 14:39:35.
03/18/2008 02:57:39 PM · #19
my 11 yr old niece has been working on her own version of

by bassbone

I showed it to her last summer, and after I gave her a digital camera for xmas, one of the first comments was, I can make my own alphabet collage.

So maybe a topic and make them look for the subject



Message edited by author 2008-03-18 14:59:47.
03/18/2008 03:28:27 PM · #20
The last couple years I've given a photography presentation to a group of kids, and I have found that they're really fascinated with what you can do with Photoshop. I'll take their pictures, and sometimes have them do funny poses, and then I'll start swapping their heads, or paste one kid's face into another face (leaving the hair of the original kid). Or make someone into a giant, or whatever.

I know your goal is to get them to be interested in taking shots, but you might find this to be a fun way of introducing them to the kinds of things that can be done with digital photos. The kids really seemed to have fun with the quick and easy copy/paste things I was doing with their heads. They really loved it when I'd stick one person's face on everyone else's heads, for example.
03/18/2008 03:39:00 PM · #21
basics of film
history of great photographers
if your really bold and have a lot of time you could make pinhole cameras that makes negative prints thats always fun I remeber doing that in grade 7 and having a blast.
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