DPChallenge: A Digital Photography Contest You are not logged in. (log in or register) 
 

DPChallenge Forums >> Rant >> why cant everyone quit being such wankers??
Pages:  
Showing posts 51 - 75 of 123, (reverse)
AuthorThread
 10/16/2003 01:18:45 PM · #51
Originally posted by DavidLevin:


Why?? hahahahhaha

Why do you think that every shot would get the same score?
for example say we had a scoring system like this (just for example, do not take me seriously):

2- for meeting the challenge
3- technical issues
4- overall gut feel
1- for having a shot

so suppose everyone used a system like that, everyone would score accordingly, meaning that if the overall gut feel didnt get them, instead of giving a four for that, maybe a 2 or 1, and if technically it was ok, then maybe a two, and so on...

do you see what i am saying?


The thing you are missing is that is already what happens. I'd score the picture you initially complained about as a 1 with that scale - isn't it grand how things work out ?

0/2 doesn't meet the challenge
0/3 too many technical problems to list
0/4 doesn't do much for me at all
1 - they entered

At the same time I could equally score it as
2/2 great interpretation of the challenge. Kudos for taking a non-obvious tack
3/3 great creative use of motion blur and alternative white balance selection
4/4 I love the general earthyness of the shot and the creative interplay of the light, shadows and essential doggyness of it
1/1 for having a picture.


Enforcing a 'scale' doesn't mean any more than the current scale we have enforced of GOOD to BAD. Except the current system lets anyone use any scale they like, and we end up with a much more efficient system as a result.

Message edited by author 2003-10-16 13:21:37.
 10/16/2003 01:23:10 PM · #52
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


lol! "Vichser" auf deutsch Ursula :-)
 10/16/2003 01:25:29 PM · #53
The word "wanker" is derived ( to answer the question 2 posts back ) from the word "masturbate", hence you are someone that is a "tosser".

It is basically just poor language skills !

Anyhow I think as David himself as said there should be a new thread started and to stop bashing David, the guy has appologised and I say this not because I agree with him but the fact remains he has appologised.

If there is a new thread started about voting policies it will not come to a conclusion as this is why we all get a scale of 1-10 and there is no "THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE TO VOTE" - The same applies to the Olympic games for instance ! Judges give a score they deem the athlete to be at...

Surely David you can see that all people are saying here is we are all entitled to vote how we see fit...

My 2 cents anyhow.
 10/16/2003 01:27:44 PM · #54
How disturbing.. we have a saloon & cafe here in Oregon called Wanker's Corner.

More proof us Oregonians are a strange lot I suppose.

:D
 10/16/2003 01:29:39 PM · #55
Just as an example, what if you're given an assignment in a class to write a 5 page essay on human rights and you turn in a 1 page paper on how to make toast? Even if it is the greatest paper ever written on making toast, it's very likely you're going to get a failing grade because you failed to meet the assignment.

Another example, what if you're a photojournalist who's assignment is to get a cover shot from the Yankees vs. Red Sox game and you turn in photos of your favorite flower. Even if the photo of the flower is excellent, do you really think you're going to keep your job?

The challenge is the assignment. It's the most important part. If it were considered less important, then people would disregard the subjet of the challenge in order to work on something they're more comfortable with. At that point there would be no use for a challenge and instead submitting your best photo of the week, regardless of what it is.

So to sum it up, if the photo doesn't meet the challenge in any form, then the voter has every right to give it a 1. But that's just my thickheaded caveman opinion!
 10/16/2003 01:30:27 PM · #56
Oh happy days.....


Message edited by author 2003-10-16 13:31:54.
 10/16/2003 01:33:41 PM · #57
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


lol! "Vichser" auf deutsch Ursula :-)


Ahh ..... dankeshoen! (I think :)
 10/16/2003 01:50:17 PM · #58
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


wank·er
n. Chiefly British Vulgar Slang
1. A person who masturbates.
2. A detestable person.


10/16/2003 02:29:22 PM · #59
Originally posted by uabresch:
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


lol! "Vichser" auf deutsch Ursula :-)


Ahh ..... dankeshoen! (I think :)


I just can't resist: "Wickser" is spelled with a "W" and "dankeschön" like this. ;-) Otherwise, kiwi's translation is impeccable.

Message edited by author 2003-10-16 14:30:06.
 10/16/2003 02:33:32 PM · #60
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I just can't resist: "Wickser" is spelled with a "W" and "dankeschön" like this. ;-) Otherwise, kiwi's translation is impeccable.


Damn that's the second time this week you caught me out on my German Zeuszen..... I'm going back to school! Anyway how do you know such words? :-)
 10/16/2003 03:17:06 PM · #61
I want to take up David's position, mainly because no one else seems to.

While I regret the tone (and the stance it supports) David chose, I share his frustration in part. The example he chose, is not one I'd choose, but if an artistically remarkable photograph, particularly one well executed, is not recognized for what it is, I do care. I recognize that people's definition of what constitutes a remarkable image differs, to say the least.

When voters, pubicly, defend a deduction of the majority of available points from the score for failing to meet a given topic, thus removing a reasonable acknowledgement of any inherent quality of a given image, I, too, feel compelled to question not only the promotion of such a method but also the motivation for doing so.

This, to me, has nothing to do with the voting process in place here. It has something to do with an individual's liberty to offer a view for debate. It is the debate, IMO, that shapes the collective.





10/16/2003 03:17:56 PM · #62
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I just can't resist: "Wickser" is spelled with a "W" and "dankeschön" like this. ;-) Otherwise, kiwi's translation is impeccable.


Damn that's the second time this week you caught me out on my German Zeuszen..... I'm going back to school! Anyway how do you know such words? :-)


Practice, kiwi, paractice... ;-)
 10/16/2003 03:26:59 PM · #63
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Practice, kiwi, paractice... ;-)


Umm can I correct your English now
PRACTICE :-)

Message edited by author 2003-10-16 15:27:37.
 10/16/2003 03:28:42 PM · #64
1 entry found for wanker.
wank·er ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wngkr)
n. Chiefly British Vulgar Slang
A person who masturbates.
A detestable person.

10/16/2003 03:33:28 PM · #65
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


lol! "Vichser" auf deutsch Ursula :-)




Ahh ..... dankeshoen! (I think :)


I just can't resist: "Wickser" is spelled with a "W" and "dankeschön" like this. ;-) Otherwise, kiwi's translation is impeccable.



Hey, I couldn't remember how to do the "o" with the umlaut, so I put an "e" afterwards - when I was a kid in Argentina they told us that was OK :)))

Anyway, I'm kinda sorry for having asked ...

Message edited by author 2003-10-16 15:33:55.
 10/16/2003 03:39:27 PM · #66
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Practice, kiwi, paractice... ;-)


Umm can I correct your English now
PRACTICE :-)


Touchée.
 10/16/2003 03:42:00 PM · #67
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


Good time to get a better dictionary.
If this is any help, in French "branleur" = wanker

I am positively sure there is a fine word in german for this...
 10/16/2003 03:45:10 PM · #68
I'd like to show support for vonautsch's reply.

The examples he gave are spot-on, and is exactly how I feel that challenge themes should be interpreted, both by submitters and by voters. The challenges are "assignments", and if you were being graded/evaluated on the assignment by your "boss", you would expect to give your boss what is fairly obvious from the "assignment" wording, and not some left-field shoe-horned-with-a-title interpretation.

Nothing "thickheaded caveman" about your thinking! I totally agree that "meets the challenge" should be the first and foremost voting criteria.
 10/16/2003 03:51:35 PM · #69
Originally posted by jjbeguin:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


Good time to get a better dictionary.
If this is any help, in French "branleur" = wanker

I am positively sure there is a fine word in german for this...


How many different languages can we translate "wanker" into?

So far we have:

Wanker =
jerk-off in American English
branleur in French
wickser in German

What about Spanish? Russian? any others??

10/16/2003 03:52:12 PM · #70
Originally posted by jjbeguin:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


Good time to get a better dictionary.
If this is any help, in French "branleur" = wanker

I am positively sure there is a fine word in german for this...


Hmmmm ... this might come in handy next time I go over the river to Quebec :)))

Ursula
 10/16/2003 03:53:18 PM · #71
Originally posted by uabresch:
Hey, I couldn't remember how to do the "o" with the umlaut, so I put an "e" afterwards - when I was a kid in Argentina they told us that was OK :)))

In German, the "oe" combination is considered the typographical equivalent to the o-plus-unlaut; likewise for the "ue" and "ae" combinations. This is (so far as I know) a worldwide convention to handle situations where the umlaut is not available.

I think you can also always use an "ss" combination if the character ß is not available.
 10/16/2003 03:54:54 PM · #72
builley y crackan in gaelic or jannoo mair chooilleeney


10/16/2003 03:55:03 PM · #73
Originally posted by jjbeguin:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Question from a non English as a First Language person. What's a "wanker"? Obviously not something I'd like to be, but I looked in my dictionary and the word doesn't seem to exist. Knowing what it means exactly might come in useful at some time.

Ursula


Good time to get a better dictionary.
If this is any help, in French "branleur" = wanker

I am positively sure there is a fine word in german for this...


Hm, the quote was as coarse as coarse gets. A finer synonym may be Nichtsnutz...
 10/16/2003 04:05:40 PM · #74
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by uabresch:
Hey, I couldn't remember how to do the "o" with the umlaut, so I put an "e" afterwards - when I was a kid in Argentina they told us that was OK :)))

In German, the "oe" combination is considered the typographical equivalent to the o-plus-unlaut; likewise for the "ue" and "ae" combinations. This is (so far as I know) a worldwide convention to handle situations where the umlaut is not available.

I think you can also always use an "ss" combination if the character ß is not available.


The (Umlaut: "ue", "oe" and "ae" for "ü", "ä" and "ö") convention is considered archaic in proper German. "Ss" for "ß", however is slowly becoming the norm. Both spellings are acknowledged as proper according to Duden for nearly a decade now.
 10/16/2003 04:05:53 PM · #75
I agree 100% with Vanautsch's reply. He said it far better than any of us. Again the name of this site is DPChallenge. Some of the people speaking on this topic don't seem to realise that.
Pages:  
Current Server Time: 08/03/2025 01:38:29 PM

Please log in or register to post to the forums.


Home - Challenges - Community - League - Photos - Cameras - Lenses - Learn - Help - Terms of Use - Privacy - Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2025 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Current Server Time: 08/03/2025 01:38:29 PM EDT.