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02/26/2008 08:40:19 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
FWIW I don't think the Whoopee shot is a total dissaster, though she does look like she just caught The Pope in a compromising position. My "inner-DPC-child" isn't crazy about the crop. DOH!
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LOL. I bet every one of her shots would have won a ribbon if entered here. Lifeless or not the wow factor would have made up for it in spades, despite your low vote. :)))
Message edited by author 2008-02-26 20:41:59.
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02/27/2008 05:59:00 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by grigrigirl:
there is a reason why they call it selling your soul to the devil when you compromise your integrity, personal truth and vision for the sake of fame and fortune. Yes, we all have to pay our bills. Success is measured in more ways than one. I wish you all the success in the world, otherwise, your a failure by your own thinking. I think I am doing pretty well by sticking to my guns..so far.
Superdave, arent you the one that has something negative to say when the likes of Joey Lawrence gets a bit of recognition in the world. Are you jealous? Do you feel like a failure?
You dont and never will always get what you want? I beg to differ. I always get what I want. It just takes time and determination. So far, I have gotten what I want and I keep on dreaming for more. I will get exactly where I want to be...or die trying.
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I have never said anything negatively about Joey Lawrence. I have some of his pictures added as favorites and he is one of the most creative,intelligent, and talented members on this site. Someone mentioned he was going to be the Michael Jordan of photography. I just don't think he is even remotely close to that level. Give him 30 years and see what happens. I was just saying if someone is exceptional with photography or any other hobby then they should pursue it. To me it is not a waste, I didn't word it correctly, but if someone has a ton of talent at a certain craft or hobby then they should show their work to the world. Let others enjoy the beauty they create. |
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02/27/2008 06:25:38 PM · #53 |
Dave-I'm not sure it's worth a reply because it's near impossible to unravel such tortured logic. For starters, it's NOT a DPC thing. There's amazing talent everywhere and bear in mind that many of the greatest artists we could list of all time died unknown. Think.. Van Gough.
Doing something as a hobby or even as a paying hobby is a far throw from doing it for a living. What you seem to have missed is that when you do something for a living it may no longer bring pleasure. Keep in mind that 80% of the people that go to the top cooking schools in the country...who dream of being Chefs are OUT of the industry within 5 years. Why? Because cooking for a living can really suck. It's nothing like doing it on a smaller scale and I should mention that some of these folks are very good at it but it's no "BAM" TV show experience, out in the real world. It can be nasty work and so can photography (think Weddings!) Back on topic...Emeril CAN'T cook. He couldn't cook his way out of a paper bag but he's a sweetheart of a guy and he marketed himself wonderfully. Some people aren't as charming and the rest just might not have a taste for kissing ass, which is part of the game. To your post, It's NOT all the same and the pressure and politics run differently in every industry. For the record, I've worked with Emeril 3 times and I know many people that have been part of his top crew members for years. They keep him away from the food.
As for me, I do make some good money doing this photography thing and I do have the luxury of taking work that I like to do. It's a beautiful thing but I would dread...DREAD doing jobs because I was worried about paying the rent. If I were to quit my day job... even if I made $800 per shoot and averaged two shoots a week, I could stand to lose a good deal of income and it's a very unsteady way to make a living. Any slouch in the economy and you could go down the drain. I also don't work very hard...I call most of the shots and I'm virtually free of politics and bullshit.
I doubt I'll change your mind but just the fact that someone's at the top doesn't mean shizzle. If you think so, it's sad to imagine what you've been missing. Believe it or not some of the best plays in town are Off Broadway, Off Off Broadway and in tiny little theaters hidden away... Not always in the big show. If you've seen Cats, you might know what I mean. I'm still having a very hard time recovering from that experience. ;P
All for now. [/quote]
Yeah but with Van Gogh you also have to keep in mind the time period. Alot more difficult to be noticed and famous. I believe you about Emeril but what he does is not primarily cooking. His show is geared for high ratings and not to teach people how to cook. He got the job because he is an entertainer and keeps the show alive. Entertainment and photography are different scenarios. In the entertainment field charisma,charm,looks, and so on weigh heavily on if you will make it or not. Its not based upon how much talent you have. With photography, I think it quite the opposite. I have no doubt some of the best plays are off broadway. Also those stars in the little plays are trying to get to the bigger stages. They are pursuing their dreams. For the most part the majority of people dislike their jobs. My point is if they excel in a hobby then they should pursue it and see what happens. You guys can say thats tortured thinking or a defeatist attitude but it seems pretty positive to me. I'm telling people to pursue their hobby and see where it takes them instead of dealing with a crappy job
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02/27/2008 06:36:36 PM · #54 |
I think the fallacy in this is assuming best chef = best TV chef explaining simple cooking to housewives
Also similar is best DPC Photography = best celebrity portraiture
Just like being a good cook isn't the sole or major requirement for being the best TV chef, being a great photographer is a small or just necessary part of being a great celebrity portrait photographer.
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02/27/2008 08:14:27 PM · #55 |
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02/27/2008 08:18:48 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
I think the fallacy in this is assuming best chef = best TV chef explaining simple cooking to housewives
Also similar is best DPC Photography = best celebrity portraiture
Just like being a good cook isn't the sole or major requirement for being the best TV chef, being a great photographer is a small or just necessary part of being a great celebrity portrait photographer. |
Don't forget being a good bull shitter seller.
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02/27/2008 09:11:58 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
A long, but great read. |
That was a wonderful read. Thank you for sharing it! |
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02/27/2008 10:28:26 PM · #58 |
That's better or as good as Everybody's Free to Wear Sunscreen!.
A very fun listen. |
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02/27/2008 11:14:57 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
A long, but great read. |
Huh? I found it to be a short read. Did you not follow tip 1?
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