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02/22/2008 11:06:07 PM · #501
Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

I still don't think Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6. For one as everyone has said, he was in utero on the plane and therefore wouldn't necessarily be a wreck surcivior but an island survivor. For two, there is obviously a lot of lying going on for people to believe that Aaron is Kate's child, don't you think if he was in the spotlight like the other Oceanic 6, someone would have figured it out by now that Aaron isn't Kate's son? Wouldn't some DNA testing be done on a convict who escaped being stranded on an island with her apparent son?


nah. he's one of the six. they said we'd find out another of the six last night and he was the only new face, so to speak.

besides, if aaron was in utero and that utero was in the plane, then he survived the wreck. he was just in the safest place to be. fluid makes a nice cushion. ;)

aaron looked to be nearly as old as my son (4) in the episode last night, though i doubt they ment for him to be more than 3ish...

as for the coffin, i have a feeling it was ben. but not really ben. they're tricksy, these writers... we hates them... our precious...
02/22/2008 11:16:15 PM · #502
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Remember Jack and Claire are half brother and sister that would make Aaron his nephew.

YES that is right, Very good point. I wonder when they are going to find that info out.
02/22/2008 11:21:56 PM · #503
Originally posted by kudzu:

as for the coffin, i have a feeling it was ben. but not really ben. they're tricksy, these writers... we hates them... our precious...


I too think this was Ben. The guy said that NO ONE showed up for the funeral and Ben didn't have anyone since he grew up on the island and killed everyone.
02/26/2008 04:07:29 PM · #504
Originally posted by kudzu:

Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

I still don't think Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6. For one as everyone has said, he was in utero on the plane and therefore wouldn't necessarily be a wreck surcivior but an island survivor. For two, there is obviously a lot of lying going on for people to believe that Aaron is Kate's child, don't you think if he was in the spotlight like the other Oceanic 6, someone would have figured it out by now that Aaron isn't Kate's son? Wouldn't some DNA testing be done on a convict who escaped being stranded on an island with her apparent son?


nah. he's one of the six. they said we'd find out another of the six last night and he was the only new face, so to speak.

besides, if aaron was in utero and that utero was in the plane, then he survived the wreck. he was just in the safest place to be. fluid makes a nice cushion. ;)

aaron looked to be nearly as old as my son (4) in the episode last night, though i doubt they ment for him to be more than 3ish...

as for the coffin, i have a feeling it was ben. but not really ben. they're tricksy, these writers... we hates them... our precious...


I'm pretty sure they are just confirming that Kate is one pf the 6, up until last episode it really was only speculation that she is one of the 6. The last time we saw Kate we knew nothing of the oceanic six, and I think people originally thought she was 'on the run' and therefore not one of the oceanic six, like as in she snuck back into the US somehow. i know that people from the show monitor a lot of the lost forums and make some decisions based on that (as far as clarifications), so I am fairly certain they were doing this to clarify.

My money is on Sun and Jin being the other two, we'll see who is right this week or next ;)
02/26/2008 04:18:51 PM · #505
Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

My money is on Sun and Jin being the other two, we'll see who is right this week or next ;)


Hmm.

we have:

- Kate
- Jack
- Hurley
- Benjamin
- Sayid
(- Aaron?)

The thing I didn't quite get was what Jack was telling in the courtroom? He said there were only 6 (or 8?) people on the island, and Kate saved them. Was this a setup? I didn't get that.
02/26/2008 04:29:12 PM · #506
Originally posted by biteme:


we have:

- Kate
- Jack
- Hurley
- Benjamin
- Sayid
(- Aaron?)

The thing I didn't quite get was what Jack was telling in the courtroom? He said there were only 6 (or 8?) people on the island, and Kate saved them. Was this a setup? I didn't get that.


I don't think ben is one b/c he wasn't on the plane, with the celebrity status they are apparently recieving, someone would have figured that out, so that just leaves (that we know for sure) Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sayid

As far as Jack's story in the court room, and I'm only speculating, I think that obviously only 6 got off the island but maybe 2 bodies made the journey as well, thus they had to make up the story of the 8. Meaning maybe two people died somehow in transit back to civilization. I'm pretty sure oceanic, abaddon, dharma or penny's father (whidmore) or ALL are a part of this cover up story. Since there was a fake plane "found" then there had to be some sort of story to cover their tails. and clearly Jack was saying Kate saved every one so it would look good for her in court. Basically what I see happening as far as this goes is we will find out it is some sort of big corporation covering their tails, and for some reason the losties have to go along with it, maybe every one else (40+ people) still on the island will be harmed if they don't lie. If it was me I would want to tell the world my messed up story of the island. Either way my vote is for Sun and Jin and unfortunately I think claire will be on of the one's to die, thus the reason Kate is raising Aaron.

Message edited by author 2008-02-26 16:29:36.
02/26/2008 04:46:17 PM · #507
Originally posted by ApertureAshley:


I don't think ben is one b/c he wasn't on the plane, with the celebrity status they are apparently recieving, someone would have figured that out, so that just leaves (that we know for sure) Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sayid


Right! Thanks for clearing that up :)

Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

As far as Jack's story in the court room, and I'm only speculating, I think that obviously only 6 got off the island but maybe 2 bodies made the journey as well, thus they had to make up the story of the 8. Meaning maybe two people died somehow in transit back to civilization. I'm pretty sure oceanic, abaddon, dharma or penny's father (whidmore) or ALL are a part of this cover up story. Since there was a fake plane "found" then there had to be some sort of story to cover their tails. and clearly Jack was saying Kate saved every one so it would look good for her in court. Basically what I see happening as far as this goes is we will find out it is some sort of big corporation covering their tails, and for some reason the losties have to go along with it, maybe every one else (40+ people) still on the island will be harmed if they don't lie. If it was me I would want to tell the world my messed up story of the island. Either way my vote is for Sun and Jin and unfortunately I think claire will be on of the one's to die, thus the reason Kate is raising Aaron.


Hmm. That also makes sense.

Do you think Aaron is really Claire's son, or is he Kate's son (and James's), named after him?

Question questions! The series is good!
02/26/2008 04:58:50 PM · #508
Originally posted by biteme:


Do you think Aaron is really Claire's son, or is he Kate's son (and James's), named after him?

Question questions! The series is good!


HELL YEAH ITS GOOD!!! ;)

I personally think it is Claire's Aaron for three reasons:

1.) Why make such a big deal about (like it being the cliff hanger ending) if it was kate and sawyers, sure it would be scandalous, but not as big of a deal as Kate raising Claires baby as her own
2.) If it was kate and sawyers, then that would mean kate got pregnant after the eggtown episode, which would make the child about 3 months younger than aaron. Obviously the flash forward we see with aaron is much farther into the future, that baby just looked too old for it to fit in the timeline. he looked almost 3! probably 2 and some change!
3.) The writers made a statement (spoiler alert...STOP READING IF YOU DON"T WANT TO KNOW) that 'we will lose some characters we have come to know and love' and especially after the last episode i think that one will be claire (and she will be one of the '8' that didn't make it)

this is getting interesting b/c remember the psychic waaay back who told claire terrible things would happen if she didn't raise aaron on her own, then he kinda went back on it and told her she had to give him to a specific family (in L.A) which is why she was on the plane in the first place. I think this guy was pretty much sending her to the island, he ensured she was on the plane....goes back to the time loop theory, it was his job to make sure she got on that plane (remember that lady Desmond buys his engagement ring? and how she tells him 'no, you don't uy the ring, you have second thoughts then you walk out that door' as though he had done it before.....weird!
02/26/2008 05:34:24 PM · #509
Ummm did anyone cry when charlie died?
02/26/2008 05:39:00 PM · #510
LOL, I probably could have but I was in a room full of people, didn't want to look silly and be the only one! It was terrifying, uuggh drowning is crazy.
02/26/2008 05:40:06 PM · #511
Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Ummm did anyone cry when charlie died?

But, is he really dead? hmmmmmmmmm
02/26/2008 05:53:58 PM · #512
This show keeps getting better and better.
02/27/2008 12:20:56 PM · #513
I think the title has a double meaning. The survivors were Lost to the world for some time (and of course they felt Lost on the island) ... but also the story is so complex that it keeps the viewers Lost in the details. I know I'm effing Lost! :-D
02/27/2008 12:30:58 PM · #514
Originally posted by howzit:

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Ummm did anyone cry when charlie died?

But, is he really dead? hmmmmmmmmm


Yes he is really dead.
02/27/2008 12:52:58 PM · #515
Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

I'm pretty sure they are just confirming that Kate is one pf the 6, up until last episode it really was only speculation that she is one of the 6. The last time we saw Kate we knew nothing of the oceanic six, and I think people originally thought she was 'on the run' and therefore not one of the oceanic six, like as in she snuck back into the US somehow.


nope. we knew kate. the 5th was claire's boy, aaron.

jack's lie in the court room was to protect/hide the people still left on the island. they said 8 people survived the crash and two died on island... why? it could be that their bodies make it back w/ them somehow... not sure...

but aaron is the 5th of 6, so that only leaves one spot left...

02/27/2008 02:34:42 PM · #516
Originally posted by kudzu:



but aaron is the 5th of 6, so that only leaves one spot left...


we assumed kate (the 4th) in the S3 finale, we didn't know it as fact, and to be honest I assumed at first that she would have been in the country secretly, being that she's comitted murder, arson, robbed a bank etc. she would surely be in jail.....so, she could have easily snuck back in somehow, Ben seemed to have not had too much of a problem, and I'm sure there would be someone looking for his butt....what im getting at is i think they felt that they needed to officially show her as one of the 6, thus that's who was revealed, i know i could be wrong, I just don't think aaron is one of them since its not her baby, there's a lot of drama/secrets going on there!

I guess we'll see who is right this week or next! ;)

Message edited by author 2008-02-27 15:03:15.
02/27/2008 02:41:30 PM · #517
Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

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2.) If it was kate and sawyers, then that would mean kate got pregnant after the eggtown episode, which would make the child about 3 months younger than aaron. Obviously the flash forward we see with aaron is much farther into the future, that baby just looked too old for it to fit in the timeline. he looked almost 3! probably 2 and some change!


Keep in mind tho that time does not proceed in the same manner as the outside world.
02/27/2008 03:04:51 PM · #518
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

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2.) If it was kate and sawyers, then that would mean kate got pregnant after the eggtown episode, which would make the child about 3 months younger than aaron. Obviously the flash forward we see with aaron is much farther into the future, that baby just looked too old for it to fit in the timeline. he looked almost 3! probably 2 and some change!


Keep in mind tho that time does not proceed in the same manner as the outside world.


yeah, but either way the 'feds' would be a little suspicious knowing she wasn't pregnant when she got on the plane and all of a sudden she comes back with a 3 month old child.... in fact that makes it even more plausible if you ask me......
02/27/2008 03:13:08 PM · #519
I have yet to be able to check again, but saw only a credit for 'two year old boy' not Aaron at 2,3,4 in the credits.
02/27/2008 03:18:22 PM · #520
Originally posted by Arcanist:

I have yet to be able to check again, but saw only a credit for 'two year old boy' not Aaron at 2,3,4 in the credits.


Good find!! This is probably because they want people to speculate over whether or not it is Claire's Aaron, or Kate's son she named after Aaron.
02/27/2008 03:25:19 PM · #521
maybe - just maybe something happened to Claire and before she died she gave Aaron to Kate? Maybe she wanted Kate to raise Aaron and not anyone else. That could explain why the baby Kate has is named Aaron and not a tiny little baby. As for the age of the child - I'm sure that court case took some time. So the scene could be a lot further into the future than some think.
02/27/2008 03:27:20 PM · #522
At the very least, it would indicate that the child is only two.
02/27/2008 03:35:48 PM · #523
Originally posted by ShutterPug:

maybe - just maybe something happened to Claire and before she died she gave Aaron to Kate? Maybe she wanted Kate to raise Aaron and not anyone else. That could explain why the baby Kate has is named Aaron and not a tiny little baby. As for the age of the child - I'm sure that court case took some time. So the scene could be a lot further into the future than some think.


I agree completely with HOW kate got aaron, I just don't think he is one of the oceanic 6

As far as his age, well let's say he is 2 in the FF, then that means he would need to have been a newborn or not even born yet when they are rescued, which he wasn't, he was about 3 months old. There's goiong to be atleast a three month discrepency with kate because they know she wasn't showing when she got on the plane, so she would have needed to be atleast less than 5 months pregnant, she crashed in 9/04, claire had the baby about 2(?) weeks later, and her court case is probably in 2006 or so, he would actually be almost 2. The oldest a child of Kate's could possibly be would be about 1 and a half, 3 months difference is a big difference in a baby!
02/28/2008 04:18:35 PM · #524
only 282 minutes until LOST.
02/28/2008 04:26:38 PM · #525
Originally posted by larryslights:

only 282 minutes until LOST.

It's not only me who does this LOL
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