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02/25/2008 02:08:48 PM · #1 |
I hear this thing on the news lately. I also heard other stuff like "There are no WMD in Iraq, never was.
Let me tell you my fallow earthlings. There was WMD in Iraq; we just didn't make it on time. There is still Nukes program in NK, they now just planning how to "buy" them not "make" them...
I don't want anyone to be paranoid, and start looking around 24/7 like crazy, but I am against, TOALY against, thinking there is no danger and relax.
Remember one thing my friends... technology will let governments own big toys in smaller sizes. Even we can separate orange and apple from space, we can't tell the difference if they are in a paper bag.
Never let your guards down... NEVER, and we won't :( |
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02/25/2008 02:22:29 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Let me tell you my fallow earthlings. There was WMD in Iraq; we just didn't make it on time. |
Just to play devil's advocate, let's see your sources for this. |
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02/25/2008 02:24:49 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Let me tell you my fallow earthlings. There was WMD in Iraq; we just didn't make it on time. |
Just to play devil's advocate, let's see your sources for this. |
Well, that's the point, isn't it. You can't possibly prove it, so it must be true!
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02/25/2008 02:29:44 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Never let your guards down... NEVER, and we won't :( |
Isn't this North Korea's position? |
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02/25/2008 02:36:15 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Let me tell you my fallow earthlings. There was WMD in Iraq; we just didn't make it on time. |
Just to play devil's advocate, let's see your sources for this. |
Common sense, common knowledge. I do think intelligence were correct to locate the stuff, and activity. I one to say we should not go to war with Iraq, because the time we went there was a bad time, bad timing... Not only US, but British intelligence were saying the same thing. What happened? It was too late. Plans advertised too much.
Anyway, what else I would like to say here is, don't be too relax hearing all that good stuff happening such as "laying down nukes", "can't find anything"... etc. The whole world is pregnant to a disastrous attack. and I only hope I am wrong... I know how terrorist thinks. Never turn your back; never be friends... because you just can't :( |
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02/25/2008 02:38:12 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Never let your guards down... NEVER, and we won't :( |
Isn't this North Korea's position? |
I thought it was the position of the US government to keep its cictizens scared and watchful of the rest of the planet. That way they behave and pay their taxes.
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02/25/2008 02:47:59 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Let me tell you my fallow earthlings. There was WMD in Iraq; we just didn't make it on time. |
Just to play devil's advocate, let's see your sources for this. |
Common sense, common knowledge. I do think intelligence were correct to locate the stuff, and activity. |
First sentence, what's common sense to one government is perfectly ridiculous to another, and if it were common knowledge, well, I guess there would be evidence, wouldn't there? Second sentence, if I understand it correctly, if the intelligence failed to uncover evidence of any kind of an organized effort at a massive arms progam, it ceases to be intelligence and begins to look more like something else. |
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02/25/2008 02:52:30 PM · #8 |
Some of you guys born and lived in US all your lives (I can't and won't speak for all) don't know anything more than what you see from here. And that's a fact. Some of you (again, I am not talking to majority here) speak like if there wouldn't be USA, the whole world be in peace forever. That's a bull crap, and you do know that.
Before you attack your own country and defend other smaller countries, which have violents in recent past, think what would you do if you were there? And I probably suggest you to visit, learn the language and smell what's going on there in person. I can only imagine you will be coming back, and kissing the ground... and understand. I lived, heard things, closer than most of you in US.
Let me add this, people there love their own countries more than some American people love their own county. For them, anything and everything is ok, because they are there, they probably have no other choice. we do. and that's the whole point... we want to keep it that way, to be able to have better choices. |
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02/25/2008 02:55:24 PM · #9 |
Ok, here is another question for those people keep asking me the same question about "my sources".
Do you really believe NK stop their idea of getting bigger and better weapons? and what makes you believe that? |
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02/25/2008 03:03:04 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Some of you guys born and lived in US all your lives (I can't and won't speak for all) don't know anything more than what you see from here. And that's a fact. Some of you (again, I am not talking to majority here) speak like if there wouldn't be USA, the whole world be in peace forever. That's a bull crap, and you do know that.
Before you attack your own country and defend other smaller countries, which have violents in recent past, think what would you do if you were there? And I probably suggest you to visit, learn the language and smell what's going on there in person. I can only imagine you will be coming back, and kissing the ground... and understand. I lived, heard things, closer than most of you in US.
Let me add this, people there love their own countries more than some American people love their own county. For them, anything and everything is ok, because they are there, they probably have no other choice. we do. and that's the whole point... we want to keep it that way, to be able to have better choices. |
I guess you are talking to scalvert here. The rest of us are all just daymn foreigners
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02/25/2008 03:04:37 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
...I guess you are talking to scalvert here. The rest of us are all just daymn foreigners |
HUH? It seems that way :P |
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02/25/2008 03:06:49 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Ok, here is another question for those people keep asking me the same question about "my sources". |
Yep, scalvert's the only American to post in this thread so far. And isn't it just terrible when people begin to demand inconvenient things like facts, and sources that back them up? I hate that. |
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02/25/2008 03:11:22 PM · #13 |
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02/25/2008 03:12:11 PM · #14 |
I don't think this has been a good conversation... oh well. I like  scalvert, nothing against him. He was just trying to color up the thread a little bit.
which went south (odd, talking about "N"K) fast :P
well, it's over :P
(don't let your guards down) |
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02/25/2008 03:18:34 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Gordon:
...I guess you are talking to scalvert here. The rest of us are all just daymn foreigners |
HUH? It seems that way :P |
It seems that way, because it is that way.
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02/25/2008 03:23:04 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Gordon:
...I guess you are talking to scalvert here. The rest of us are all just daymn foreigners |
HUH? It seems that way :P |
It seems that way, because it is that way. |
I can't just look at the profiles... even if I do, like yours which is Austin,TX... I wouldn't know. But you are right. I think the general population based on foreigners in DPC. which is ok. I started this conversation because I was angry press made it sound like now NK is in peace with everyone... they will be very friendly all the way... and others will follow.
gimme a break. |
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02/25/2008 03:27:37 PM · #17 |
Someone should get the foreigners out of DPC. They're a waste of space. Maybe someone could write some "foreigner scrubbing" software.
;-)
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02/25/2008 03:31:55 PM · #18 |
| you mean no more "aurora" photos? and excluding Canada? |
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02/25/2008 03:34:59 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
you mean no more "aurora" photos? and excluding Canada? |
I meant get rid of everyone except the Canadians. ;-)
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02/25/2008 03:45:53 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
...I meant get rid of everyone except the Canadians. ;-) |
Lemme show you what I think about that statement,
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02/25/2008 03:48:55 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Never let your guards down... |
...or your smiley's pants. |
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02/25/2008 03:50:12 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Never let your guards down... |
...or your smiley's pants. |
Damn you |
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02/25/2008 03:51:16 PM · #23 |
So what are you porposing? Should we run around paranoid? NEver leave our homes? I don't get your point. Personally, I know the crane kick so I'm OK.
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
(don't let your guards down) |
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02/25/2008 04:01:38 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
I hear this thing on the news lately. I also heard other stuff like "There are no WMD in Iraq, never was.
Let me tell you my fallow earthlings. There was WMD in Iraq; we just didn't make it on time. There is still Nukes program in NK, they now just planning how to "buy" them not "make" them...
I don't want anyone to be paranoid, and start looking around 24/7 like crazy, but I am against, TOALY against, thinking there is no danger and relax.
Remember one thing my friends... technology will let governments own big toys in smaller sizes. Even we can separate orange and apple from space, we can't tell the difference if they are in a paper bag.
Never let your guards down... NEVER, and we won't :( |
Yes, maybe there was, but we'll never know the truth.
The only WMD I've seen is our weapons. The funny thing is most citizens on all sides want a peaceful living, it's always the rulers that threaten each other.
(my sources, I spoke with a lady and her child from the Midle East, as a passenger on a plane trip I was on)
If more countries had nuclear weapons, that would seem to make it a more even playing field. The cold war was a stalemate and provided some temporary peace, but that was not the answer, either.
Back to the topic, no I agree we should never totally let down our guards.
If a country wants to coexist on peacful terms, I say let them. But we must inspect their peacful allegations strictly and periodically. Trust is just a word in a contract and agreement. Yes there always are some possible dangers that we alway need to be on gaurd for. I would not open total free trade, that has to be well supervised.
Their first step was a big-step towards peaceful coexistence.
In the long term it is just one of the many small steps taken so far. |
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02/25/2008 04:03:14 PM · #25 |
Nothing man. just forget what I said. Live your life, and don't worry about things. We all should do the same. Forget about it, if something happens, it happens. We deal with it when time comes...
wait, we are doing that, no? we are trying to avoid not to "repeat" things that "happened"... Why 7 thousand people died? I think about right number. 3 thousands in ONE day, and the rest to avoid happening bigger sh.ts! no?
Comfortable? I bet it is. Would you mind if I burn your house once or twice? no? why? I don't like your house. What? You put me in jail? put cops front of your home, get a gun, weapon, bigger and better than I have? why... Ok, you win, I go the next door... no reason, I just hate the way this neirbourhood lives. I want the same thing, but I can't so you all should go the he.ll!
you see what I am trying to say here? |
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