weekly "LOST" thread *WARNING - SPOILERS*

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02/21/2008 10:45:23 PM · #477

What is Kate doing with Aaron???
Is it just me or has John Locke lost it???

I also have to agree with the doc. on Michael being on the boat. What I don't undetstand is why is the time on the boat 30 minutes in the past. It's like the boat is not currently there.

gwe21

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02/22/2008 12:09:03 AM · #478

I said WTF?!?! Why does Kate have Aaron!?!?

this just gets weirder and weirder each week.

and WHY would Jack not want to see Aaron?

photokariangel

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02/22/2008 12:18:43 AM · #479

KATE HAS AARON?!?!?!
*falls into a coma*
wake me when Charlie and Claire are married & are raising Aaron together. Thank you.

02/22/2008 09:00:10 AM · #480

I was so excited to see a LOST thread on here, I LOVE this show! Last night I was watching it on my DVR (I always record it and start it a little late so I can skip the commercials) and my stupid DVR messed up right when Kate was discussing a deal with her lawyer,ugghhh that's the last time I do that! My mom filled me in, so Aaron huh?!!!

Obviously (and quite unfortunately) something happens to Claire, I remember reading somewhere the writer or producers or someone said that we will lose some well known characters this season...looks like Claire may be one of them! Atleast she will be with Charlie! ;)

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02/22/2008 09:01:14 AM · #481

Originally posted by gwe21:

and WHY would Jack not want to see Aaron?

I bet Jack doesn't know its Aaron, he probably thinks its Sawyer's baby.....don't know why he wouldn't know though.....

mkabbott

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02/22/2008 09:26:59 AM · #482

Would Aaron be considered one of the Oceanic six?

02/22/2008 09:52:41 AM · #483

Here's a question for ya (or 2 or 3)...

How many survived the crash?
6 get off the island, but last night it was mentioned that 8 survived the crash, but died soon after. We KNOW that's not true, so why the lie?

Last week we say ben in Germany with Sahid. Running a hit list of people. What people? It becomes more intriguing now that Miles knows 'who you work for' - WTF? We've been led to believe that ben came to the island as a kid with his dad...then overthru the Dharma folks and leads the local.

So now I have to ask did the local work for someone, the someone that now employs Ben? Do the boat people also work for Ben's employer, or a rival?

What's the real reson they're on the island? Baby research? Time travel? Something else?

02/22/2008 09:53:41 AM · #484

Originally posted by mkabbott:

Would Aaron be considered one of the Oceanic six?

Oooh, good catch.
That's Jack, Sahid, Hurley, Kate, Aaron and my mind goes blank- we've got all six now, right? Who am I missing?

02/22/2008 10:20:56 AM · #485

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Originally posted by mkabbott:
Would Aaron be considered one of the Oceanic six?

Oooh, good catch.
That's Jack, Sahid, Hurley, Kate, Aaron and my mind goes blank- we've got all six now, right? Who am I missing?

I really don't think it is Aaron, he isn't on the manifest and if you think about it, they probably had to do some major lying about him for people to believe he is Kate's son. (even jack seems to think its her actual son...) People knew Kate wasn't pregnant before she got on the plane, so how could she have feasibly given birth in 80 days or so? Unless they really have been on the Island for a few years or something( weird time travel stuff....) Anyway, I think the other two oceanic six are either Sun and Jin or Michael and Walt....would be too cool if it was michael...I did hear he comes backs so you never know!

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02/22/2008 10:21:42 AM · #486

Can anyone explain the scene to me where Daniel is looking at cards and can't seem to remember them....i didnt get to see it b/c my stupid DVR messed up but I have seen some people talking about it on other forums

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shamrock

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02/22/2008 10:45:46 AM · #487

Originally posted by Prof_Fate:

Obviously some folks chose to stay behind, hence the lie. The ones that stay behind don't want to be found. I can't see Claire staying behind and sending Aaron off, so she must die, and Jack may have something to do with it (or maybe just can't save her), so seeing Aaron would be painful. The boat people probably work for the group that Ben helped overthrow, and that is also the group that he is engaged in removing in the post-rescue time frame.

Since Ben wasn't part of the Oceanic flight, does he qualify as a survivor? Aaron may count, but i suspect we still only know about 4 of the six. Actually, the more i think about the phrasing that Jack used, the less i think Aaron counts - he said "only 8 of us survived, and we couldn't save the other 2". Since Aaron would not have been born at the time, he would not have been counted as being on the plane. Perhaps the story is that Claire was injured during the crash and gave birth before dying? Of course, it was also said that Kate "almost starved to death" on the island, so how would they have kept a newborn alive without mother's milk? Question after question...

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02/22/2008 10:56:37 AM · #488

Anybody else do the math and realize that last night's episode ended on Christmas night, 2004?

Here's the math:

- In the re-run of last week's show, one of the popups (when Jack & Frank were talking about the Red Sox), told us that they had been on the island for 92 days
- The plane crashed September 22
- 30 days is October 22, 60 days is November 21, 90 days is December 21, 92 days is December 23. Sayid, Frank & Desmond left that afternoon
- In last night's episode, they show Kate drinking coffee on her front porch in "New Otherton" the next morning (Dec. 24, 2004)
- That day passes, she spends the night with Sawyer, and wakes up on Christmas morning
- The day progresses and the show ends that night on the beach.
- The giant tsunami happens tomorrow (don't think it will be inthe show since that was in the Indian Ocean and they are in the South Pacific)

Funny thing about the 92 day thing, because in one episode recently, I think Jack told one of the freighties that they had been the 100 days.

02/22/2008 10:57:52 AM · #489

Originally posted by ApertureAshley:

You didn't miss anything...that's all there was. I assume it's part of an experiment - the 4 rescuers are all scientist/specialists in very varied areas - so I'm guessing they're testing various theories - like foreseeing the future or mind reading, that type of thing.

Dirt_Diver

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02/22/2008 11:40:14 AM · #490

Originally posted by photokariangel:

KATE HAS AARON?!?!?!
*falls into a coma*
wake me when Charlie and Claire are married & are raising Aaron together. Thank you.

Charlie is dead.

Dirt_Diver

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02/22/2008 11:46:00 AM · #491

Originally posted by mkabbott:

Would Aaron be considered one of the Oceanic six?

No, he is a survivor of the island but not the Oceanic six.

did anyone notice that when Jack was telling his story on the stand he only mentions the other 5 survivors. Nothing is ever said about the other 40+ people that were there.

And I think that Kate did something to Claire or something happened to her and Kate took Aaron. Maybe Claire told Kate to raise Aaron because she couldnâ��t do it. Remember that she was going to give him up to begin with.

02/22/2008 01:06:55 PM · #492

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Originally posted by mkabbott:
Would Aaron be considered one of the Oceanic six?

No, he is a survivor of the island but not the Oceanic six.

did anyone notice that when Jack was telling his story on the stand he only mentions the other 5 survivors. Nothing is ever said about the other 40+ people that were there.

And I think that Kate did something to Claire or something happened to her and Kate took Aaron. Maybe Claire told Kate to raise Aaron because she couldnâ��t do it. Remember that she was going to give him up to begin with.

Every friday at work I visit any and all LOST forums and read everyones theories. One that has struck me as being somewhat weird but kind of plausible is this:

Kate got banished from Locke's little group so she went back to Jack and somewhere along the line they try to talk Claire and others into coming with them. Now here is two possible ways it could go
1.Claire refuses to leave and Kate decides to kidnap Aaron to get him off the island and Jack doesn't want to see Aaron b/c it will remind him of the mistake they made by leaving the island in the first place.
2.They talk Claire into leaving and she gets on the helicopter (thus Desmond's vision) but at some point she is thrown out or killed. I think this one is the more possible of the two, but sad b/c Claire dies. Then Kate, Jack and everyone involved fabricate the story about 8 survivors.

Wait, just realized that these can't be true b/c it seems that Jack believes Kate's "son" is really her son and not Aaron. Surely if he knew it was Aaron he would want to go and see him.
Anyway, just tossing ideas around ;)

thegrandwazoo

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02/22/2008 01:17:42 PM · #493

Remember Jack and Claire are half brother and sister that would make Aaron his nephew.

Message edited by author 2008-02-22 13:17:59.

ShaneBlake

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02/22/2008 02:30:57 PM · #494

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Remember Jack and Claire are half brother and sister that would make Aaron his nephew.

jack still doesn't know this, though, does he?

and where is everyone getting that jack thinks kate's "son" is hers? the show never said as much, just that he didn't want to see him and kate knew why. he'd also know the timeline well enough to know a kid that old's not hers...

i think it will turn out to be a matter of guilt for either killing (accidently?) claire or deciding to steal (or allow kate to steal) aaron from claire...

other thoughts and questions :

- yes. aaron is one of the six

- is ben one of the six? i don't think so... i think he still has a way off the island. besides... he'd have to use someone else's name cause he wouldn't be on the manifest

- assuming ben's not one of the six, who's # 6? (long shot? michael...)

- locke's becoming much like ben, but won't go full bore evil...

- ben works for jacob. the boat people know who jacob really is...

- the "card game" was either mind reading, or daniel has memory issues. he's testing the island's effects on one or the other...

- what's with the time lag between the ship and the island? they both have to be running at the same "speed" in time, otherwise these sat-phone calls back to the ship wouldn't work...

- with previews of the chopper, we may get more insight to that soon

- i think michael's the spy on the ship.

jdannels

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02/22/2008 02:39:43 PM · #495

Originally posted by kudzu:

- i think michael's the spy on the ship.

I think so too.

I think everyone else is on the island. When Ben was talking to Sayid after he was shot he said something about wanting to protect his friends if he didn't continue on the list. (I am paraphrasing horribly.:P)

Also I just got my girlfriend watching the show and she asked me where all the people went who were working on the island. I know some died, did they all die? I am having a brainfart. :P

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02/22/2008 02:46:12 PM · #496

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02/22/2008 02:59:44 PM · #497

Originally posted by jdannels:

Also I just got my girlfriend watching the show and she asked me where all the people went who were working on the island. I know some died, did they all die? I am having a brainfart. :P

In the season 3 finale, Ben told Richard to take everyone to the "temple". What or where that is, who knows? Will we see Richard and the rest of the Others again? I think we might.

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02/22/2008 03:02:42 PM · #498

Originally posted by larryslights:

Originally posted by jdannels:

Also I just got my girlfriend watching the show and she asked me where all the people went who were working on the island. I know some died, did they all die? I am having a brainfart. :P

In the season 3 finale, Ben told Richard to take everyone to the "temple". What or where that is, who knows? Will we see Richard and the rest of the Others again? I think we might.

Thanks I forgot about that! I wonder then if they are in the supersecret hiding spot on the island. I think they'll be back too then.

02/22/2008 04:31:44 PM · #499

Originally posted by kudzu:

Yeah, you're right, I guess Jack never said as much, I think people (myself included) assume he doesn't want to see Aaron b/c he thinks its Sawyers, but what you said about Jack knowing the timeline makes complete sense

I still don't think Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6. For one as everyone has said, he was in utero on the plane and therefore wouldn't necessarily be a wreck surcivior but an island survivor. For two, there is obviously a lot of lying going on for people to believe that Aaron is Kate's child, don't you think if he was in the spotlight like the other Oceanic 6, someone would have figured it out by now that Aaron isn't Kate's son? Wouldn't some DNA testing be done on a convict who escaped being stranded on an island with her apparent son?