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02/21/2008 08:55:19 PM · #1 |
| There is a great debate on right now on CNN, tune in!!!!! |
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02/21/2008 09:31:22 PM · #2 |
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02/21/2008 09:41:04 PM · #3 |
Obama for president! Clinton is a Karl Rove type of person, ewww...
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02/21/2008 09:50:11 PM · #4 |
What a great debate! Obama is truly inspiring!
Message edited by author 2008-02-21 21:52:51.
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02/21/2008 11:11:15 PM · #5 |
| I agree I can't wait for this process to be over so he can focus on going after McCain |
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02/21/2008 11:19:51 PM · #6 |
He's going to be in our area Sunday and I am debating on whether to go see him or not... could be interesting!
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02/21/2008 11:36:07 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
He's going to be in our area Sunday and I am debating on whether to go see him or not... could be interesting! |
I've heard from many people that he is amazing to wach speak. I'd go. |
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02/22/2008 12:06:25 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
He's going to be in our area Sunday and I am debating on whether to go see him or not... could be interesting! |
I would travel many miles to see him. He is the best thing we have seen in politics in a LOOONG time.
Message edited by author 2008-02-22 00:07:04.
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02/22/2008 01:35:36 AM · #9 |
| I look forward to having a women President one day. Unfortunately in our current state of foreign relations I believe a women in office would do more harm right now than good. We have serious issues with Middle Eastern nations with Muslim base faiths and their outlook on women in power is not good. We have for the past 8 years shoved the Bush policy down every nations throat and if they didn't like they were labled terrorist nations. We need to repair relations with these Muslim nations and strengthen our foreign relations. With no insult to women what so ever this period in our nation will take a male figure to accomplish this. A women president right now following the Bush era will just add insult to injury. Just my thoughts. |
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02/22/2008 01:15:59 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by jtf6agent:
I look forward to having a women President one day. Unfortunately in our current state of foreign relations I believe a women in office would do more harm right now than good. We have serious issues with Middle Eastern nations with Muslim base faiths and their outlook on women in power is not good. We have for the past 8 years shoved the Bush policy down every nations throat and if they didn't like they were labled terrorist nations. We need to repair relations with these Muslim nations and strengthen our foreign relations. With no insult to women what so ever this period in our nation will take a male figure to accomplish this. A women president right now following the Bush era will just add insult to injury. Just my thoughts. |
Pakistan had Bhutto as Prime Minister and they loved her, only radicals are suppressive of women. I've been to a few Muslim nations and in the more westernized ones women are complete equals. I am an Obama supporter, but If Hillary is nominated I'll vote for her. McCain doesn't care if we stay in these wars for a hundred years. |
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02/22/2008 01:41:02 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by htf6agent:
We have serious issues with Middle Eastern nations with Muslim base faiths and their outlook on women in power is not good |
Benazir Bhutto - prime minister Pakistan (two terms)
Tansu Ciller - prime minister of Turkey 93-96
Sheikh Hasina Wajed - prime minister of Bangladesh 1996-
Khaleda Zia - Primer Minister of Bangladesh 1991-1996
Hmm, which culture has issues with their outlook on women in power again ?
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02/22/2008 01:45:25 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by gwe21:
What a great debate! Obama is truly inspiring! |
He has an inspiring message of hope, delivered with skill and polish. However, hope is NOT a strategy.
Hoping to get something done is a far cry from getting it done.
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02/22/2008 02:00:05 PM · #13 |
I don't want to stir too much up here...so don't take this as right vs left (as I am not really decided). I am not that big of a fan of McCain as there are many policies and ideas of his I disagree with. I am also not too big on Hilary. So I am looking at everyone.
What is the big draw to Obama? From what I've seen (a couple debates and his Super Tuesday speech) he speaks very passionately, but mostly in generalities. What are his policies, his ideas on the role of US government, his plans to initiate his policies/ideas, and (importantly) his past accomplishments? What will make him a better President than anyone running (besides his passionate speeches)? |
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02/22/2008 02:04:45 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by jtf6agent:
I look forward to having a women President one day. Unfortunately in our current state of foreign relations ... |
Well, others have pointed out the fallacy, I'll just add that I think kowtowing to radicals for any reason is a mistake. If they don't like a woman leader, that's their problem. Are we going to let them decide who our next President is?
As for the Obama thing, I'll support him if he is nominated, but I still think Hillary has the chops. Obama is inspirational and... anything else? So many conservatives demonize Hillary it may seem like an insurmountable problem, however, their hatred of her can't be any worse than mine for the current administration.
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02/22/2008 02:05:27 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
What are his policies, his ideas on the role of US government, his plans to initiate his policies/ideas, and (importantly) his past accomplishments? What will make him a better President than anyone running (besides his passionate speeches)? |
//www.barackobama.com/index.php ?
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02/22/2008 02:36:04 PM · #16 |
//www.youdecide2008.com/
and
//www.projectvotesmart.com/
Check these out for all your election research needs
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02/22/2008 02:47:12 PM · #17 |
I skimmed his website and clicked on some issues that are important to me (taxes, federal spending, economy, imigration, the war, poverty, environment, etc). He lists some accomplishments at the bottom of every issue (championed this, did that in Illinoise, co-wrote this, etc). So here are a few things I found on ObamaĆ¢s webiste:
Originally posted by ObamaĆ¢s Website:
The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
Obama will provide all low and middle-income workers a $500 Making Work Pay tax credit to offset the payroll tax those workers pay in every paycheck. Obama will also eliminate taxes for seniors making under $50,000 per year.
Obama will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but he will reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers. |
So Obama (the federal government) is going to take less of our tax monies, unless we are super rich. Cool.
Originally posted by ObamaĆ¢s Website:
Obama will also tackle wasteful spending in the Medicare program. |
Obama will also eliminate wasteful spending in a government created, tax funded program.
So he is taking less of our tax money (which is usually spent on providing government programs, grants, etc.) and will stamp out wasteful spending of our tax monies in programs that were created by our government, thus making more of it available to make up for the losses in revenues by cutting our taxes.
But, according to his website, he wants increase federal spending and create new programs...
Originally posted by ObamaĆ¢s Website:
Obama will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve a million more children.
Obama will quadruple Early Head Start, increase Head Start funding and improve quality for both.
Obama will also provide affordable and high-quality child care to ease the burden on working families.
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.
Obama will invest $1 billion over five years in transitional jobs and career pathway programs that implement proven methods of helping low-income Americans succeed in the workforce.
Obama will create a program to directly engage disadvantaged youth in energy efficiency opportunities to strengthen their communities, while also providing them with practical skills in this important high-growth career field.
Obama will create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund to develop affordable housing in mixed-income neighborhoods.
Obama will fully fund the Community Development Block Grant program and engage with urban leaders across the country to increase resources to the highest-need Americans.
Obama will create 20 Promise Neighborhoods in areas that have high levels of poverty and crime and low levels of student academic achievement in cities across the nation. |
These programs look great...dont' get me wrong...but how will WE pay for them? It usually is paid for by tax monies...but Obama is going to take less of them right? I guess I just don't get how these things work. |
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02/22/2008 02:58:11 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
I skimmed his website and clicked on some issues that are important to me (taxes, federal spending, economy, imigration, the war, poverty, environment, etc). He lists some accomplishments at the bottom of every issue (championed this, did that in Illinoise, co-wrote this, etc)...
...These programs look great...dont' get me wrong...but how will WE pay for them? It usually is paid for by tax monies...but Obama is going to take less of them right? I guess I just don't get how these things work. |
The same way the current president financed his War in Iraq; the national credit card.
He's counting on our kids to finance his party. |
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02/22/2008 03:02:52 PM · #19 |
Is Obama for or against making the Bush tax cuts permanent?
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02/22/2008 03:04:28 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Is Obama for or against making the Bush tax cuts permanent? |
Both...keep the cuts for the little guys...reverse the cuts for the big guys (according to his website). |
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02/22/2008 03:06:17 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
I skimmed his website and clicked on some issues that are important to me (taxes, federal spending, economy, imigration, the war, poverty, environment, etc). He lists some accomplishments at the bottom of every issue (championed this, did that in Illinoise, co-wrote this, etc)...
...These programs look great...dont' get me wrong...but how will WE pay for them? It usually is paid for by tax monies...but Obama is going to take less of them right? I guess I just don't get how these things work. |
The same way the current president financed his War in Iraq; the national credit card.
He's counting on our kids to finance his party. |
$200 billion/year in finance charges at the moment. More than the war budget. But hey, paying off the $9 trillion dollar debt isn't important.
Current rate of increase is $1.55 billion per day.
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02/22/2008 03:12:52 PM · #22 |
That's the spirit!
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by gwe21:
What a great debate! Obama is truly inspiring! |
He has an inspiring message of hope, delivered with skill and polish. However, hope is NOT a strategy.
Hoping to get something done is a far cry from getting it done. |
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02/22/2008 03:13:20 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
The same way the current president financed his War in Iraq; the national credit card.
He's counting on our kids to finance his party. |
I guess I'm just disappointed in the system. It seems that everybody running thinks that more governmental control is the key to "success". I say if the federal government has screwed things up this badly in the past...why put them in control of more things? Why not give more power to the states and local governments? It seems that locally, a governing offical can be held more accountable; people care more when they see these people on a regular basis; and are more apt to voice their opinions to a smaller governing body. Let the towns take care of the towns, the states take care of the states, and the feds make sure we all play by the same rules. Simplify the system. |
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02/22/2008 03:20:43 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
He's counting on our kids to finance his party. |
I completely disagree.... The US is WAY past our kids been able to finance what has already been spent. :-)
Pick you poison... both sides are spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave.... just they are spending is slightly differently (a thin margin between them in a lot of cases).
Message edited by author 2008-02-22 15:23:09.
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02/22/2008 03:22:51 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by drewbixcube:
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Is Obama for or against making the Bush tax cuts permanent? |
Both...keep the cuts for the little guys...reverse the cuts for the big guys (according to his website). |
What is the line between big guys and little guys?
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