Challenge: Available Light - DPChallenge Forums

02/12/2008 03:02:54 AM · #1

Available light is the existing light already in the scene - excluding outdoor sunlight - without artificial additions, such as floodlights, flashes, or strobes. eta: Window light is considered available light, as is room light, cigarettes, matches, candles, fireplaces...

Message edited by author 2008-02-12 13:04:57.

Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

02/12/2008 10:49:49 AM · #2

Boring huh?

CEJ

Canon EOS-40D

02/12/2008 11:09:42 AM · #3

Is that the same as THIS challenge?

Sonifo

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

02/12/2008 11:16:26 AM · #4

sounds like it would be fun

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02/12/2008 11:46:59 AM · #5

I'd like to submit that your definition of 'available light' is wrong. I prefer the W. Eugene Smith definition.

When asked if he used available light he replied that yes, he used any damn light that was available.

It sounds more like you are wanting an ambient light challenge or something similar.

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

02/12/2008 12:13:01 PM · #6

Originally posted by Sonifo:

sounds like it would be fun

Sounds confusing. Excluding outdoor sunlight???

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

02/12/2008 12:16:40 PM · #7

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Available light is the existing light already in the scene - excluding outdoor sunlight - without artificial additions, such as floodlights, flashes, or strobes.

Wouldn't this be shooting in the dark? What exactly is the available light if not using natural light or artificial light?

FocusPoint

XIAOMI Redmi Note 8 Pro

02/12/2008 12:27:40 PM · #8

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Sonifo:
sounds like it would be fun

Sounds confusing. Excluding outdoor sunlight???

No exclusion... whatever you have with you, but no flash or studio lights... Might be a small led flashlight, sunshine, moonlight... streetlights... but no flash, no studio stuff.

UrfaK

Canon EOS-650/T4i Rebel

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/12/2008 12:33:37 PM · #9

That's like 99.9% of my pictures.. :D

FocusPoint

XIAOMI Redmi Note 8 Pro

02/12/2008 12:34:57 PM · #10

Originally posted by UrfaTheGreat:

That's like 99.9% of my pictures.. :D

There ya go... and you only need ONE :P

UrfaK

Canon EOS-650/T4i Rebel

Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

02/12/2008 12:38:48 PM · #11

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Originally posted by UrfaTheGreat:
That's like 99.9% of my pictures.. :D

There ya go... and you only need ONE :P

Ahh! But I'll go through my 'I need fancy lighting' phase through that week.. I just know it..

02/12/2008 12:52:10 PM · #12

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Sonifo:
sounds like it would be fun

Sounds confusing. Excluding outdoor sunlight???

No exclusion... whatever you have with you, but no flash or studio lights... Might be a small led flashlight, sunshine, moonlight... streetlights... but no flash, no studio stuff.

Well, the description better not read that way, "excluding outdoor sunlight", if they run this one. :-D

I like shooting with available light and 90+% of the time it's natural daylight.

02/12/2008 12:54:01 PM · #13

Two desklamps, one plasma TV and the vegas strip for lighting. Anything that's available...

02/12/2008 01:01:18 PM · #14

Originally posted by Gordon:

I've always loved that definition :-D
But, for most purposes, the definition above works. As long as we aren't adding studio strobes, floods or "strobist" setups, any indoor scene would count. Anything from a cigarette, to a fireplace, to natural room light is good.

Also, it should be noted that the definition excludes outdoor sunlight. That does not exclude window light, as that would be indoor sunlight. Outdoor sunlight is defined as natural light.

02/12/2008 01:03:22 PM · #15

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I like shooting with available light and 90+% of the time it's natural daylight.

As long as the scene is indoors, window light is defined as available light. It's when the scene is shot outdoors that sunlight is considered natural light.

02/12/2008 01:13:03 PM · #16

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I like shooting with available light and 90+% of the time it's natural daylight.

As long as the scene is indoors, window light is defined as available light. It's when the scene is shot outdoors that sunlight is considered natural light.

Welcome to DNMChell ;)

02/12/2008 01:21:15 PM · #17

Originally posted by Gordon:

Welcome to DNMChell ;)

LOL, most likely. :-D

There is a classic available light look (exposed for the highlight, lose shadow detail, usually 1 - 2 stops underexposed) that would get hammered by a bunch of photographers spoiled by HDR and digital rescue of shadow detail. I have a feeling that eventhough this is norm for the genre DPC voters would rate those types of photos harshly.

02/12/2008 01:36:43 PM · #18

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Ok. Hit me with a hammer. :-O I understand now. It's a matter of semantics I guess. Didn't realize sunlight had two considerations (thru window vs outside). Thanks. Learned something new. :-D

02/12/2008 01:40:36 PM · #19

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I like shooting with available light and 90+% of the time it's natural daylight.

As long as the scene is indoors, window light is defined as available light. It's when the scene is shot outdoors that sunlight is considered natural light.

Ok. Hit me with a hammer. :-O I understand now. It's a matter of semantics I guess. Didn't realize sunlight had two considerations (thru window vs outside). Thanks. Learned something new. :-D

It's also a different colour temperature too :) Now that's a thought experiment for those who disagree...

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

02/12/2008 01:42:47 PM · #20

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I like shooting with available light and 90+% of the time it's natural daylight.

As long as the scene is indoors, window light is defined as available light. It's when the scene is shot outdoors that sunlight is considered natural light.

Ok. Hit me with a hammer. :-O I understand now. It's a matter of semantics I guess. Didn't realize sunlight had two considerations (thru window vs outside). Thanks. Learned something new. :-D

It's also a different colour temperature too :) Now that's a thought experiment for those who disagree...

Depends on the window I'd think, and distance from - yes?

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

02/12/2008 02:02:04 PM · #21

So, by definition, the images have to be shot indoors?

R.

02/12/2008 02:07:11 PM · #22

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

So, by definition, the images have to be shot indoors?

R.

Hard to tell. Leroy himself used flash on the last natural light challenge

02/12/2008 02:38:11 PM · #23

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Ok. Hit me with a hammer. :-O I understand now. It's a matter of semantics I guess. Didn't realize sunlight had two considerations (thru window vs outside). Thanks. Learned something new. :-D

It's also a different colour temperature too :) Now that's a thought experiment for those who disagree... [/quote]
Depends on the window I'd think, and distance from - yes? [/quote]

Well, if you are stood outside on a bright, cloudless, sunny day with no shade or buildings, you've got sunlight but you are also illuminated by a huge blue light source as well. Put a hole in a wall and shine the sun through that hole and you block most of that blue light.