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01/24/2008 06:58:17 PM · #1 |
that I didn't at all find helpful or agree with, do you have to say it was helpful, is it okay to email the commenter to ask why they think this. Mind you it is pretty obvious when you get """"a strong image and a bad photo ,out of focus and a terrible composition!;;;;
Is it too rude to ask him to explain more in-depth why they have said this, or do you just take it on the chin, I am curious as to why he left that one. |
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01/24/2008 07:01:09 PM · #2 |
| You find the village where he or she lives, and get your torch and pitchfork to burn it down. Make sure Ogres on your way won't see you LOL |
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01/24/2008 07:02:46 PM · #3 |
Juliet,
In a case like this I usually go to the persons profile and check out some of the comments he's left for others.
If you I see that by and large that person only leaves such comments I usually don't bother writing to them.
I also check the profile to see if I 'respect' that person as a photographer.
Many times during voting I've received comments I thought were 'ordinary' only to find that in my opinion the person writing the note was not someone I 'respected' as a 'peer'. Then once again I let it go - SMILE!
I have code with which I live by - I (mostly) only take on the opinons of people I admire - SMILE! |
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01/24/2008 07:02:50 PM · #4 |
Or...you just read this and let it roll off of your back.
Welcome to DPC:) |
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01/24/2008 07:04:36 PM · #5 |
| I don't think it's rude to PM someone who left a comment as long as you are polite. There is nothing wrong with wanting clarification on a comment. I will say that some people are more blunt and in your face about comments, but you can still learn from the comment when you take away the emotion. I would be curious to see the comment to give you my opinion, PM it to me if you want. Trevor |
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01/24/2008 07:05:25 PM · #6 |
| Personally I would take it on the chin. If after the voting is over you still want to know more of the commenters thought processes, then PM, but do wait til voting has finished as it may be ineterpreted as trying to sway the vote. I resent it when I receive a PM challenging me about a comment I have left, but am always happy to discuss a photo with someone providing they are prepared to accept that I may have a different take on it to them. |
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01/24/2008 07:05:50 PM · #7 |
I looked at his profile and he has only ever made 3 comments since 2006, I wonder how I got so lucky!!! lol, it wasnt on a competition photo (PHEW) maybe it is out of focus and I need my eyes checking haha
I was just wondering what I could have done differently. But I have a feeling that for him, taking the shot in the first place was a mistake. Gotta laugh!!! |
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01/24/2008 07:06:49 PM · #8 |
| It is the Self Portrait one of me, ,, I think without my head would look better hehehe |
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01/24/2008 07:07:55 PM · #9 |
I'd suggest contacting the commenter, but if it's an entry still in voting I'd wait until afterwards, otherwise it may look like you're trying to get the commenter to reconsider and raise your score (even if that's not your intention) :)
That said, twice I've contacted commenters during the challenge, when the comment shows me that they are under a misconception of some sort.
I make it clear that I don't expect a score change, but I do want them to able to vote knowledgebly.
eta; lol, you posted while I was typing. Well, my advice still stands, in general!
Message edited by author 2008-01-24 19:08:45. |
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01/24/2008 07:40:48 PM · #10 |
I got a comment in one challenge that just said "blurry". I thought my entry was pretty clear and sharp. I wanted to ask them to point out the blurriness, but then after the challenge, I saw which entry was theirs and just had a good laugh at the poor DOF. Perhaps the person was commenting on their own entry. Oh well, I just let that one go.
Nothing wrong with asking someone for clarification. I sometimes get a message about one of my comments and it often results in a useful exchange. |
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01/24/2008 07:50:40 PM · #11 |
| Just because someone says something doesn't make it true. I would say, so what - that user thinks it's blurry and that's his or her perception. I'd take it in the chin, especially if the profile reflects little participation and/or little experience. |
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01/24/2008 08:12:26 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
that I didn't at all find helpful or agree with, do you have to say it was helpful, is it okay to email the commenter to ask why they think this. Mind you it is pretty obvious when you get """"a strong image and a bad photo ,out of focus and a terrible composition!;;;;
Is it too rude to ask him to explain more in-depth why they have said this, or do you just take it on the chin, I am curious as to why he left that one. |
You don't *have* to mark it helpful (although I can see that you did). It's also perfectly fine to open a dialogue with a commenter to gain further insight into their thought process.
What's not OK is to send a confrontational PM indicating that you thought they were dead wrong and why. Here at DPC we assume good faith, and that the commenter was trying to help. Here, for example, it seems like the commenter was attempting to tell you that the message was strong but that the poor technicals were distracting the viewer from the artistic message. Whether you agree with the comment or not, always strive to take it in the spirit in which it was likely intended. |
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01/24/2008 08:23:10 PM · #13 |
| Just ignore it, the guy has given 4 comments here so why bother beating yourself up about it. Maybe virtualy use your knife on him ;) |
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01/24/2008 08:36:42 PM · #14 |
I did mark it as helpful, it was kind of like a splinter that I had to pull out. I was wondering why and wanted to see if he would clarify what and why, but then when i looked at his profile, I just figured he just wanted to say that for the sake of saying it.
Trust me, it would take a lot more than that to make me be rude to anyone!!! |
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01/24/2008 08:51:27 PM · #15 |
| also look at their profile and see what the average vote they have given is. if it's very low, it's very easy to take it on the chin. i know this from experience. :) |
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01/24/2008 08:52:08 PM · #16 |
sorry..not sure how I did two posts when I was trying to edit.. :-/
Message edited by author 2008-01-24 20:57:42. |
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01/24/2008 08:55:53 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
[quote=JulietNN] a strong image and a bad photo ,out of focus and a terrible composition
Is it too rude to ask him to explain more in-depth why they have said this, or do you just take it on the chin, I am curious as to why he left that one. |
I think he/she pretty much let you know what he feels about the photo by that comment if that IS the comment he/she give. I understood it as he things it is a strong photo but bad at the same time. Maybe take the same photo over but this time try to be more in focus and try to shoot from a different angle. Some people have a hard time saying the right words..I am one of them..I tend to say it how I feel and not butter up the critique. There have been a few who wrote me saying they didn't like the comment, but to me I feel I comment the truth. oh and another thing..it could be that you feel a little to attached to that photo and fear the thought of someone hating it..I tend to feel that way with my kid shots and I really felt like that when I entered
in the Despair challenge. Although I didn't get any really bad comment just some bad votes. I took every low vote way to personally.
Message edited by author 2008-01-24 20:56:51. |
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01/24/2008 09:25:17 PM · #18 |
No I am not attached to the picture, well yes, I am, but of course I love all my pictures but it is still a picture. Now if someone said, your kids are butt ugly you should never point a camera at them, then I would be upset.
I personally thought it was a bad review of this picture and I wanted to know why he thought it was a bad picture, what his critique was and what he based it on. I was interested in learning why he though that and could point out to me what he was saying.
It could well be a very bad picture and it is a little soft, but then I would have gone on to explain how this shot was created and maybe that would give a little insight on the technical side of things.
It was purely curiosity that made me want to learn his thoughts, just as it would be with any rough comments I receive. That is the only way you would learn and I want to learn from other peoples prospective.
I am pretty thick skinned and have the belief that you shouldn't leave a comment out of spite or anything like that, you can only learn from other people with what they say whether you agree or not. That is how I see it anyways. |
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01/24/2008 09:40:09 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
It is the Self Portrait one of me, ,, I think without my head would look better hehehe |
I looked at your portfolio. Was it the one with the shotty and you?
Was that image a paint with light? I ask because of the EXIF indicating that the shutter was open 45 seconds. Ah...... email..... from you. ;)
I bet the answer it there.
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