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 12/15/2007 06:07:38 PM · #1
When using my 350xt my workflow was simple, at least to me, but now that I̢۪m using my new camera RawShooters Essentials 2006 does not recognize the 40D raw files (or I can̢۪t get it to work).

I̢۪m trying to find the best workflow converting my raw files, also the best way organizing all them. Here are the programs I have, anyone willing to share there secret.

Adobe Bridge CS3 (v. 2.1.1.9)
Adobe Photoshop CS3 (v. 10.0.1)
Photomatrix Pro (v. 2.5.2)
Canon Picture Style Editor (v. 1.0.1.0)
Digital Photo Professional (v. 3.1.0.0)
Neat Image (v. 5.8) free edition with limitations

Additional Info: I̢۪m running windows media edition on PC. I also am very concerned about retaining the original raw file incase verification is required by DPChallenge.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Thanks in advance,
SDW
12/15/2007 06:14:41 PM · #2
I know where you're coming from. RAW does tend to increase the complexity of the workflow and file storage requirements. Anyway, here's the general method I use;

- Copy RAW files into a folder
- Browse them with FastStone, deleting rubbish
- Use SilkyPix RAW convertor to correct WB, noise reduction, cropping etc.
- Export as full-size high-quality JPG to sub-folder under the RAW folder
- Any images which warrant additional work (like cloning, dust removal, spot editing) I do using PS
- Do resizing for print or web using FastStone or PS (or whichever app I happen to be in at the time)

12/15/2007 06:45:17 PM · #3
Originally posted by jhonan:
I know where you're coming from. RAW does tend to increase the complexity of the workflow and file storage requirements. Anyway, here's the general method I use;

- Copy RAW files into a folder
- Browse them with FastStone, deleting rubbish
- Use SilkyPix RAW convertor to correct WB, noise reduction, cropping etc.
- Export as full-size high-quality JPG to sub-folder under the RAW folder
- Any images which warrant additional work (like cloning, dust removal, spot editing) I do using PS
- Do resizing for print or web using FastStone or PS (or whichever app I happen to be in at the time)


Thanks for your input. When using RSE I feel comfortable but now I feel lost. Does anyone know if RawShooters Essentials will work with Canon 40D raw files. If so what version of RSE?
I really like using RSE and feel very comfortable with it.

Thanks in advance.
SDW
12/15/2007 06:54:04 PM · #4
The latest updates from Adobe recognize the new 14-bit RAW format of the 40D.

I use Adobe Bridge CS3 to organize my images (RAW, JPG, TIFF, etc.). Bridge will also rotate those shot at portrait orientation without touching your file (it uses the sidecar approach--*.xmp files).

Once I've deleted all the "non-keepers", I'll open the RAW file (or files) in Adobe Camera RAW to prepare them for conversion. Any changes made to one image can easily be automatically performed on one or more images at once. Again, this is done without touching your file. When the photo(s) is what I want, I'll export to TIF (not JPG).

I'll then open the image(s) in Photoshop CS3 to do further post-processing if needed. Then I'll save them as JPG if I need to.

Message edited by author 2007-12-15 18:54:58.
 12/15/2007 06:59:49 PM · #5
Originally posted by swhiddon:
but now that I̢۪m using my new camera RawShooters Essentials 2006 does not recognize the 40D raw files (or I can̢۪t get it to work).

I thought all registered uses of RSE were eligible to receive a free copy of Adobe Lightroom?

12/15/2007 07:01:09 PM · #6
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
The latest updates from Adobe recognize the new 14-bit RAW format of the 40D.

I use Adobe Bridge CS3 to organize my images (RAW, JPG, TIFF, etc.). Bridge will also rotate those shot at portrait orientation without touching your file (it uses the sidecar approach--*.xmp files).

Once I've deleted all the "non-keepers", I'll open the RAW file (or files) in Adobe Camera RAW to prepare them for conversion. Any changes made to one image can easily be automatically performed on one or more images at once. Again, this is done without touching your file. When the photo(s) is what I want, I'll export to TIF (not JPG).

I'll then open the image(s) in Photoshop CS3 to do further post-processing if needed. Then I'll save them as JPG if I need to.


Thanks!
So your saying that anything I do in Bridge and Adobe Raw will not alter my original? That is what I liked about RSE.

Message edited by author 2007-12-15 19:01:53.
 12/15/2007 07:41:24 PM · #7
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
Originally posted by swhiddon:
but now that I̢۪m using my new camera RawShooters Essentials 2006 does not recognize the 40D raw files (or I can̢۪t get it to work).

I thought all registered uses of RSE were eligible to receive a free copy of Adobe Lightroom?

RawShooter Essentials was the free version, you were only eligible for a Lightroom copy if you purchased RawShooter Premium.
 12/16/2007 03:40:19 AM · #8
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Originally posted by AperturePriority:
The latest updates from Adobe recognize the new 14-bit RAW format of the 40D.

I use Adobe Bridge CS3 to organize my images (RAW, JPG, TIFF, etc.). Bridge will also rotate those shot at portrait orientation without touching your file (it uses the sidecar approach--*.xmp files).

Once I've deleted all the "non-keepers", I'll open the RAW file (or files) in Adobe Camera RAW to prepare them for conversion. Any changes made to one image can easily be automatically performed on one or more images at once. Again, this is done without touching your file. When the photo(s) is what I want, I'll export to TIF (not JPG).

I'll then open the image(s) in Photoshop CS3 to do further post-processing if needed. Then I'll save them as JPG if I need to.


Thanks!
So your saying that anything I do in Bridge and Adobe Raw will not alter my original? That is what I liked about RSE.

Yes.
12/16/2007 03:54:33 AM · #9
Slight hijack here, but what the hell can you do in bridge? I go into it and it just wants to put me in PS. I can't see any reason to use bridge, I use zoombrowser to browse the images, make a note of the number of the file I want and open it directly in PS. can anyone enlighten me?
 12/16/2007 08:57:15 AM · #10
i've been wondering, what's the difference between TIFF and JPEG? if the end result will be jpeg, why bother going to TIFF?

o, yeah, i work everything as a PSD file until i save at the end.

Message edited by author 2007-12-16 09:01:34.
 12/16/2007 09:30:49 AM · #11
Originally posted by xianart:
i've been wondering, what's the difference between TIFF and JPEG? if the end result will be jpeg, why bother going to TIFF?

o, yeah, i work everything as a PSD file until i save at the end.


TIFF can stay at 16-bit, JPG cannot. TIFF can be no-compression files, JPG cannot. TIFF is compatible with all graphic applications, PSD is not.

I work in PSD myself, not TIFF. But graphic designers and/or print shops, to name two examples, will often request full-size TIFFs to work with. And high-end photographic printers can work with TIFF but not all of them can use PSD.

R.
 12/16/2007 09:51:53 AM · #12
so, if i work in PSD, save in PSD, then save a copy in JPEG, i'm ok if i want to send images to a printer, as i can just save my PSD file as a TIFF? basically, PSD and TIFF are equal in quality?

i don't work in JPEG, only save the final result in it.
 12/16/2007 10:25:00 AM · #13
Originally posted by Delta_6:
Slight hijack here, but what the hell can you do in bridge? I go into it and it just wants to put me in PS. I can't see any reason to use bridge, I use zoombrowser to browse the images, make a note of the number of the file I want and open it directly in PS. can anyone enlighten me?


You need to do a little more looking a Bridge then, I think you are missing something...Looky....Here too.

Not to mention the DVD that comes with Photoshop.
 12/16/2007 11:02:08 AM · #14
that' with CS3. the original bridge is just a quite nice filing system, really.
 12/16/2007 11:17:42 AM · #15
I have a question, OK a few!

1. Working with Bride and making changes (camera raw) to the raw file does it corrupt the EXIF data? (For DPC Verification)

2. Working with Bride and camera raw how can I save multiple exposures to run in Photomatrix Pro? (It was simple in RSE)

3. Are these stupid questions because I see some great features in Bridge.
 12/16/2007 11:20:36 AM · #16
time to upgrade then. :)
 12/16/2007 11:29:49 AM · #17
Originally posted by swhiddon:
I have a question, OK a few!

1. Working with Bride and making changes (camera raw) to the raw file does it corrupt the EXIF data? (For DPC Verification)

2. Working with Bride and camera raw how can I save multiple exposures to run in Photomatrix Pro? (It was simple in RSE)

3. Are these stupid questions because I see some great features in Bridge.


1. The way I have it setup, the DNG file goes into an Original folder then sidecar files are added when anything is done/added to the file.
2. With a single file you could "write" an action to do this lickety split. Or open the file, set it up, rename it, save it, then do that however many more times. I am not sure what you have to do for Photomatix, but opening them all in RAW at the same time, set them up to what you want them to do (not to mention being able to spot edit all of them at the same time), get your WB and everything set and apply to them all, then adjust (or leave them) the exposure to high, middle, low etc. then save them, I guess.


12/16/2007 12:30:50 PM · #18
Originally posted by jhonan:
I know where you're coming from. RAW does tend to increase the complexity of the workflow and file storage requirements. Anyway, here's the general method I use;

- Copy RAW files into a folder
- Browse them with FastStone, deleting rubbish
- Use SilkyPix RAW convertor to correct WB, noise reduction, cropping etc.
- Export as full-size high-quality JPG to sub-folder under the RAW folder
- Any images which warrant additional work (like cloning, dust removal, spot editing) I do using PS
- Do resizing for print or web using FastStone or PS (or whichever app I happen to be in at the time)


I also use FastStone (read the options carefully) for an initial browser/viewer after raw download via CS3 Bridge (Bridge is also very good for viewing) - the user settings options in FastStone are good, especially useful & much, much faster than proprietary software for Olympus & Pentax raw files which will not show in Microsoft Raw Viewer. I usually send raw files to Lightroom & or ACR for conversion and edit. I also like SilkyPix noise reduction quite a bit.
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