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12/06/2007 11:41:08 PM · #1 |
i was sitting out today at wrestling practice (MRSA infection) i had decided to take my camera along... my coach was verry impressed with the drive mode function of the camera, but was turned off by having to look through the eyepiece or whatever you call it... so i suggested the sony a 100 with the kit lens... because A. it has built in IS B. it lets you see the image on the display like a P & S and C. it too shoots at 3fps... now 3 fps doenst sound like much but its better than 1fp(two)seconds and D. the kit lens goes to 70mm so it is more than the kit lens with the xti... however i dont use my kit lens anymore i stick to my 50mm and 70-200...
so... my question to you is... did i tell him the right stuff?
did i give proper advice?
anyone know of a P&S that has the same cpabilites... im prety sure the canon PowerShot S5 IS would do justice as well |
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12/06/2007 11:43:10 PM · #2 |
I don't know the answer to your question, but I just wanted to comment on the coach's idea that looking through a viewfinder is a PITA :) It's amazing how consumer point and shoot digital cameras have changed what people expect from cameras :)
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12/06/2007 11:45:30 PM · #3 |
well it IS possible as Sony has implemented it into their DSLR.. however i dont know how well it will asimilate into the higher end models.. as most people prefer the viewfinder... i know i do...but there are times where it would be nice
Message edited by author 2007-12-06 23:45:48. |
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12/06/2007 11:46:41 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Jib: i was sitting out today at wrestling practice (MRSA infection) i had decided to take my camera along... my coach was verry impressed with the drive mode function of the camera, but was turned off by having to look through the eyepiece or whatever you call it... so i suggested the sony a 100 with the kit lens... because A. it has built in IS B. it lets you see the image on the display like a P & S and C. it too shoots at 3fps... now 3 fps doenst sound like much but its better than 1fp(two)seconds and D. the kit lens goes to 70mm so it is more than the kit lens with the xti... however i dont use my kit lens anymore i stick to my 50mm and 70-200...
so... my question to you is... did i tell him the right stuff?
did i give proper advice?
anyone know of a P&S that has the same cpabilites... im prety sure the canon PowerShot S5 IS would do justice as well |
The Sony A-100 Does not have the "Live View" thing were you can see out the LCD. The LCD is solely used for playback, and the pre-shooting information screen.
The alpha is a great camera though. Not saying it only because I have it, but their are some good back up reasons as well.
Message edited by author 2007-12-06 23:47:06. |
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12/06/2007 11:48:49 PM · #5 |
grr which DSLR is that.. i know one of them have it... i saw it on youtube they even had like a model of how it worked |
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12/06/2007 11:52:41 PM · #6 |
Any SLR with live view is going to lack AF function in live view mode, because the focusing screen is blocked by the mirror. Thus, using it for sports is impractical.
Changing this would require significant redesign of how an SLR works.
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12/06/2007 11:52:51 PM · #7 |
The new Olympus E-series cameras do...
Straight from Olympus:
"How Live View works
Live View is made possible by moving the mirror upwards and displaying the image on the LCD at the back of the camera as the image sensor âseesâ it. Both automatic and manual focusing modes are supported. For autofocus, the mirror is flipped down momentarily and then - once the AF sensor which sits behind the mirror has taken its reading - back up again.
With Live View in operation, the image sensor is permanently ON, so a type of sensor was needed that consumes little power while at the same time delivers the high image quality of the Full Frame Transfer CCD. Olympus incorporated a proven Live MOS sensor technology, and then simplified the sensor construction by radically improving the materials and processing technology. The result is a sensor with low power consumption as well as low heat and noise generation. Enjoy Generation 2 of the Olympus E-System"
Message edited by author 2007-12-06 23:54:07. |
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12/06/2007 11:55:11 PM · #8 |
thats it... i couldnt figure it out...but since you suggest its bad for sports...i might just tell him to buy the canon XT body and let him borrow my kit lens till he decidedes what he wants to do with it |
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12/07/2007 12:16:06 AM · #9 |
LOL, ooorrr you could slap the mirror around.
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12/07/2007 12:20:31 AM · #10 |
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12/07/2007 12:48:58 AM · #11 |
Just a bit skeptical of the Oly design. It's still probably not gonna be great for sports, since it'll have to drop the mirror to regain AF.
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12/07/2007 12:56:14 AM · #12 |
I'd say it's still best to just test them out. Go to a camera shop and test it out and see if it will work for you; or your coach.
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12/07/2007 01:16:27 AM · #13 |
im no longer in the market for a camera...
if i am its going to be a canon body... i have too much invested to switch, nor do i want to...
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12/07/2007 01:23:25 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Jib: im no longer in the market for a camera...
if i am its going to be a canon body... i have too much invested to switch, nor do i want to... |
Sorry I meant for your coach. |
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12/07/2007 01:53:22 AM · #15 |
My Canon 40D has a live view screen. It's nice for some things, but I MUCH prefer looking through the viewfinder for most shots. |
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12/07/2007 03:22:18 AM · #16 |
Even with a P&S camera live view to a rear-of-camera screen is horrible for sports, and since their "viewfinders" (those that even have eye level viewfinders) are EVS (little video screens, not optical viewfinders) even that doesn't work well.
Why? Because sports shooting is all about timing, and the screens "lag" slightly behind the action by the time they have presented their information for you to analyze. And of course the P&S cameras have substantial shutter lag between moment of pressing vs instant of exposure, which just makes things worse.
For sports, nothing beats an optical viewfinder in real time and a super-fast, precise autofocus system.
R.
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12/07/2007 07:36:23 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
For sports, nothing beats an optical viewfinder in real time and a super-fast, precise autofocus system.
R. |
Why not have it all? A huge viewfinder, live view, ultra fast AF. Not to mention great ISO, and in-body IS with 2 modes.. Its kinda funny those dissing about Olympus never have used one, or even tryed their latest flag ship.. Sorry Canikon, you just got bested at a cheaper price:) |
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12/07/2007 07:56:04 PM · #18 |
Examples where live view rocks:
Say you want to shoot a really low angle, looking up.. A viewfinder is pretty much useless at the angle, why no pop out the live veiw screen and frame your shot?
Or say your holding something close, in your lap, looking through the viewfinder isn't an option..
My Son Reilly:
I just want the most adaptable camera, for taking the shots I wanna take.. |
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