Commenting Suggestion. - DPChallenge Forums

09/24/2003 04:13:00 PM · #3

While we're on the subject (generally), it would be nice if, after you've voted on all the pictures, it would stop randomizing them. I often try to go back through and review my votes, seeing if I was unfairly critical of some shots, or maybe inconsistent in my standards (hey, over the course of 300 pictures, it can happen). But as I go through, say, 150 shots that I voted a 5, and I see one I want to change, it randomizes them again, and I can't pick up where I was. And also, once that was accomplished, it would be nice to retain the back/next ("<<" and ">>") links, instead of having to pop in and out of the thumbnail view, and also to have it go on to the next shot if you change your score, not back to the first thumbnail page.

09/24/2003 04:18:55 PM · #4

So far, I always marked comments as useful.
But after experiencing that in more than one case I get mostly positive comments which does not go hand in hand with the average vote (sample1,sample2, sample3), I realized that they are, practically, not very useful and they represent quite a burden in website terms.

After all, there are the forums for commenting pictures and they are very much used for that purpose.

Maybe it is worthwhile considering the option of removing comments on pictures.

Message edited by author 2003-09-24 16:22:25.

Gordon

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09/24/2003 05:07:14 PM · #5

Originally posted by glimpses:

I'm not sure I understand you. Are you suggesting we do away with comments on the photos completely, or allow photographers to not ask for comments, or allow a person to delete particular comments that they don't like ?

09/24/2003 05:10:36 PM · #6

Remove comments in the photo page and during the scrutiny.

Basically to discuss about photos, techniques etc. just use the forums.

It is simpler to maintain and, by far, less source for problems in any sense really.

The original idea of having comment on photos sounds perfect in an perfect world (IMHO). Do you think we live in an perfect world? =)

Message edited by author 2003-09-24 17:11:40.

Gordon

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09/24/2003 05:13:12 PM · #7

So you want the roughly 3000 comments per challenge to be moved into the forums and disconnected from the original photographs ?

Nusbaum

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09/24/2003 05:17:45 PM · #8

I think having the comments attached to the photos is key getting comments on non-challenge photographs. In fact, I wish we had the option to say "please comment" on the photo rather than having to create a forum entry asking for input.

09/24/2003 05:19:12 PM · #9

Originally posted by Gordon:

So you want the roughly 3000 comments per challenge to be moved into the forums and disconnected from the original photographs ?

No. What it has been done.. it has been done.
Remove them from the process from now on.

There will still be pics with comments (those belonging from the old process) but the new process will be much faster, better organized and with less problems.

Technically should be pretty quick and neat:
[1] disable the feature of posting comments on a picture
[2] if comments cannot be posted on a picture, there will not be comments on a picture.

Then, with time, you can redesign the whole process on the basis of the current experience.

09/24/2003 05:23:03 PM · #10

Originally posted by Nusbaum:

It is key maybe for photos which are a draft.
When the photographer has finished with it, comments should not be in a page which expose his/her work.

Can you imagine to go in a gallery of paintings and find under the work of an artist a page with written:
[1] wonderful, or
[2] awful (to be fair..)

It does not make any sense to publish comments underneath a work which is final and being exposed.. does it?

To properly deal the matter there should be a specific folder/gallery defined as "Drafts" and that only should allow comments attached to the photo.

09/24/2003 05:24:27 PM · #11

And, unfortunately, not only is this an odd request, but totally unrelated to the original idea of improving the voting experience. :( Maybe better suited to a rant...

Though, I do like your idea David.

09/24/2003 05:27:56 PM · #12

Originally posted by ScottK:

Who is David?

09/24/2003 05:29:11 PM · #13

Originally posted by glimpses:

Can you imagine to go in a gallery of paintings and find under the work of an artist a page with written:
[1] wonderful, or
[2] awful (to be fair..)

It does not make any sense to publish comments underneath a work which is final and being exposed.. does it?

Bad analogy. This site is less a gallery, more of a classroom, where critiquing other students work is a huge part of the learning process, on both sides (critiquing and being critiqued). Even my daughter's 7th grade creative writing class is learning this process.

Ok, now I'm sucked into the diversion...

09/24/2003 05:29:51 PM · #14

Originally posted by glimpses:

Who is David?

aka Nusbaum.

09/24/2003 05:35:31 PM · #15

Originally posted by ScottK:

Originally posted by glimpses:
Who is David?

aka Nusbaum.

Thanks.

I created a Rant in reply to your previous post, so the "diversion" will be hosted in a more proper context.

Nusbaum

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09/24/2003 06:06:56 PM · #16

I think maybe the comment about starting a diversion was targeted at my request to add a "please comment" option on portfolio photos. It was definitely off topic for this thread.

09/24/2003 08:17:44 PM · #17

Originally posted by Nusbaum:

I think maybe the comment about starting a diversion was targeted at my request to add a "please comment" option on portfolio photos. It was definitely off topic for this thread.

Nah, you were the last one to chime in. :)

Gordon

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09/25/2003 03:24:40 PM · #18

Originally posted by glimpses:

Originally posted by Gordon:
So you want the roughly 3000 comments per challenge to be moved into the forums and disconnected from the original photographs ?

No. What it has been done.. it has been done.
Remove them from the process from now on.

You misunderstand. For each challenge, we get about 3000 comments. Is your proposal that they should all appear in the forums from now on ?

bod

09/25/2003 04:22:39 PM · #19

glimpses, please don't take this the wrong way, but ...
You don't like the voting process.
You don't like the commenting process.
You rate most of the photos on this site as well below average.

What on earth are you doing here?! : )

09/25/2003 04:26:44 PM · #20

Originally posted by bod:

Doing my best, which is being a pain in the ass.

Will they censor it? =))))