Detail exif info - DPChallenge Forums

11/26/2007 08:21:25 PM · #1

What can I use to see all the information SCs sees when they check the exif data? It seems like anything I touch gets tagged with something even I don't do modifications on them; I want to know where those tags can be read so I enter or not enter my photos.

Anyone?

11/26/2007 08:39:26 PM · #2

I check the CS3, and irfanview exif info, but still not able to see "copied" or "transferred" anywhere?

I really need that (actually we all need that) application to read those information to check before we send our submissions. Just "be careful" is not good enough...

11/26/2007 09:01:35 PM · #3

bump myself here...

what can I use the see every information of a picture file? Including "transfered" or "copied" information...

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

11/26/2007 09:12:26 PM · #4

I opened up the original image with CS3 and saved the copy using "save as" to another location so I would work on the copy instead of the original. Now I got this,

"your JPG has been tagged by transfer software"

is STUPID CS3 tagges the original image, is it actually modifying the headers of the original when I say "Save as"?

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

11/26/2007 09:37:32 PM · #5

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

is STUPID CS3 tagges the original image, is it actually modifying the headers of the original when I say "Save as"?

It shouldn't be.

Personally, I use IrfanView to look at EXIF data. It will let you copy the EXIF to the Clipboard or to a text file so you can post an example.

Nikon D200

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

11/26/2007 10:02:41 PM · #6

It's not CS3, FocusPoint, it's MS Windows Photo Gallery that is tagging your JPG.

You'll need to upload the original directly from the memory card, without opening it on your computer first.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

11/26/2007 10:05:30 PM · #7

I will have to see if I can "recover" the card. I don't have them in there now :( this is realy making me angry, I don't even use Microsoft Windows Photo Gallery 6.0 or whatever. Now I don't like microsoft :(

Nikon D200

11/26/2007 10:10:37 PM · #8

FocusPoint, I think it's something that happens with Vista and how you transfer files to your computer -- we've run some tests and we don't know why it tags some and not others, but it might have something to do with the auto-rotate feature.

We'll do our best to help you out.

11/26/2007 10:23:01 PM · #9

I am going to get rid of Vista right after I recover (or not) the file. I have to make sure my free study originals didn't damage, otherwise I will have to retake if I can... and I will keep the originals in the card from now on. Never ever TRUST Microsoft :(

11/26/2007 10:45:54 PM · #10

Can anyone suggest a recovery program that reads from the machine (no drive letter) ? I don'ot have the card reader, so I will have to do that from the machine if it's possible.

11/26/2007 11:33:07 PM · #11

Bumpidy bump bump.

Does anyone know any program that will recover photos from a card in Canon Rebel XT Digital, without having any drive letter in the file manager? It is connected, and I can see the file folders in them memory card, but since no drive letter, so far none of the recovery programs worked.

Is it even possible to do?

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

11/27/2007 01:19:27 AM · #12

Cant help you, sorry, but will Bump.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

11/27/2007 02:19:29 AM · #13

Sorry, the only recovery software I've used is PC Inspector, and it looks like it uses drive letters in its drop-down list of devices.

I suggest you splurge and spend ten bucks on a card reader and make life simpler for yourself for a long time to come ... :-)

11/27/2007 08:13:26 AM · #14

Good news. I got a SanDisk card reader and downloaded a software "PhotoRec" and was able to recover all the data from it.

General, PC Inspector did recover stuff, but I wasn't able to read, or didn't know how to use the program. PhotoRec is bit more friendly, it recovers the whole image with original format to open with any image viewer. Thanks for trying anyway, much appreciated.

FP

01/01/2008 07:27:00 AM · #15

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:
is STUPID CS3 tagges the original image, is it actually modifying the headers of the original when I say "Save as"?

It shouldn't be.

Personally, I use IrfanView to look at EXIF data. It will let you copy the EXIF to the Clipboard or to a text file so you can post an example.

Just wondered if it is necessary for me to download this programme for me to check my originals. My normal process is to take the CF card out of my camera, put it into my card reader. Select all my photos on the 'G' directory (being my CF card) and 'copy to' my originals folder in 'my pictures'. When I work on a photo in photoshop I work on a copy of the original. So my original in the 'my pictures' folder should be the in original condition shouldn't it?

If I then select those originals and go copy to my external hard drive they should still be in their original form shouldn't they.

If my above process OK then I wont bother down loading Irfanview, unless there is another good reason whhy I should.

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

01/01/2008 09:19:20 AM · #16

bumpity bump. Maybe I should have started my own thread rather than adding to this one??

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

01/01/2008 09:49:03 AM · #17

Originally posted by Monique64:

bumpity bump. Maybe I should have started my own thread rather than adding to this one??

see MKs FAQ for more info: //hyperbolical.org/dpcfaq/#Answer23

Message edited by author 2008-01-01 09:49:42.

undieyatch

Olympus E-10

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

01/01/2008 11:54:49 AM · #18

Originally posted by Monique64:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:
is STUPID CS3 tagges the original image, is it actually modifying the headers of the original when I say "Save as"?

It shouldn't be.

Personally, I use IrfanView to look at EXIF data. It will let you copy the EXIF to the Clipboard or to a text file so you can post an example.

Just wondered if it is necessary for me to download this programme for me to check my originals. My normal process is to take the CF card out of my camera, put it into my card reader. Select all my photos on the 'G' directory (being my CF card) and 'copy to' my originals folder in 'my pictures'. When I work on a photo in photoshop I work on a copy of the original. So my original in the 'my pictures' folder should be the in original condition shouldn't it?

If I then select those originals and go copy to my external hard drive they should still be in their original form shouldn't they.

If my above process OK then I wont bother down loading Irfanview, unless there is another good reason whhy I should.

Exif readers come in many flavors and capabilities - I prefer stand alone readers, rather than whole programs like IrfanView, they are usually much smaller & and take less space on a hard drive.
Am currently using a version of ExifTool (exiftool(-k). A program that cyphers standard exif, plus extraneous stuff.
Exif data is unique to every distinct file and often every camera. Canon CRW's for example are quite different than CR2 files.
Phil Harvey, the program maker of exiftool, has extensive notes available on his research and collaborations of exif data. I love this gem taken from his notations about Pentax - "The Pentax maker notes are stored in standard EXIF format, but the offsets used for some of their cameras are wacky..... (It wouldn't surprise me if Pentax can't read their own maker notes!)" ExifTool::Pentax - Pentax/Asahi maker notes tags

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

01/01/2008 01:44:02 PM · #19

Originally posted by Monique64:

bumpity bump. Maybe I should have started my own thread rather than adding to this one??

Monique, to answer your question directly, you're using a very safe method of transfer, and the one that we recommend. Copy using a card reader and the operation system, then make a copy to work on. There's no reason that you need to be verifying your EXIF.
FWIW to those using Vista, the same applies to that OS. Simply using drag & drop copying, then making a "working copy" of the file you want to work on, is the safest route.

undieyatch

Olympus E-10

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

01/01/2008 03:11:13 PM · #20

Some links to useful, free stand alone exif readers.

PhotoME easy to use - this program will provide very detailed exif info.

exiftool A very small program. For most users full package would be unnecessary unless one wants extensive editing & Perl capable.
Windows Executable and/or Mac OS X Package are probably the best choice to download.

01/01/2008 04:33:04 PM · #21

Thanks for your replies. The reason why I wondered if I was doing it properly was because of what I saw when I looked at the picture properties. There seems to be a date modified on the properties information. All of the photos I looked at had this data and I know for sure that I haven't modified them. So I was wondering whether I was moving them correctly.

Message edited by author 2008-01-01 16:34:02.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

01/01/2008 08:35:45 PM · #22

BUMPITY BUMP

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

01/01/2008 08:42:39 PM · #23

Date Modified is almost always set to the date the file was copied or re-written. So copying them from your card to your hard drive will almost certainly reset this date. Don't worry about that modification, the date we look at is the capture date. We look elsewhere for signs of file modification.