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 09/18/2003 08:31:55 AM · #26
I believe the point of DPC is to help everyone create better photos. The name alone says it all. Digital Photo Challenge, not contest, meaning to challenge you to become better. Part of becoming better is understanding how other people feel about your work. By having people rate your photo, you get a general idea of this, but only if you get both sides of the story. If people only rate the ones that appeal to them, such as is being suggested, the results would be very misleading and the averages would end up high. I don't think this would help anyone. Of course, this is just my opinion.
 09/18/2003 08:40:22 AM · #27
It seems to me that it takes almost no time to go through the entries and make an initial decision. I have done so in every challenge since I joined..either a 5 or a six. Then I go through again, same day or later, and see how that initial response stands up. That is the visit where I will put the almost final vote. If there are images that were disturbing I usally will feel more clear and know where I wish to place them. I also will know which images are staying with me. Then I make one last trip through and make the final decision. Sounds like a lot of time? Not at all, because that first division makes the task smaller, and the questionable ones have been separated a bit. I could never do any of this with thumbnails, by the way. I also have tried to comment on at least 20% of every challenge because I learn that way...my comment may not be helpful to the recipient but it helps me to give clarity to my decisions. My taste has uniformly run counter to the general reactions, not totally, but enough so that I am understanding a lot about why I shoot what I do and, more importantly, where I need to improve. I get some of the how to improve by reading the few comments I get. I respect the concept of the Challenge--it is, afterall, why I joined dpc so I feel I should do my part in order to get the value.And NO I was not a good student or a teacher's pet - but I am in this for what I can get and there is no way I will get anything if I don't give.

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 09/18/2003 08:58:14 AM · #28
Originally posted by amsmyth:
Sounds like a lot of time?

Actually it is. I would like to point out that I never said anything against the voting percentage. I merely wanted to know if that rule was still in place.

Originally posted by amsmyth:
My taste has uniformly run counter to the general reactions.

Mine too. Though the winning photo is generally a great one, but not usually the one I would have picked.

I'm still wondering about those that get high scores and yet don't really seem to fit the assignment though. I mean are we supposed to vote for a great photo, or one that is good but fits the subject best?
 09/18/2003 09:21:57 AM · #29
Originally posted by scw1217:
Is it still a rule that you have to vote on a certain percentage of photos before your vote counts? Some entries are honestly not worth my time. I would prefer a voting system where I could vote on my favorites without constantly going in circles amongst 200 photos that I don't care for and have no opinion of. Anybody else's thoughts?


My thoughts are that this sounds quite arrogant. If you are not interested in voting, don't vote. If the majority of the shots here aren't worth your time, why even bother?

09/18/2003 09:26:31 AM · #30
Originally posted by scw1217:
Big deal if I lurk. I'm sure I am not the only one


I have nothing against people who lurk here -- there's plenty to be learned from doing so. I just feel that it's rather bold to offer such a harsh criticism of other people's efforts if you yourself have not attempted to participate in challenges that are outside your own "photographic comfort zone" (in your case, nature shots).

I challenge you to test the waters of current topics offered by the site and see how you fare. Your nature shots are great; show us what else you have to offer.
 09/18/2003 10:59:34 AM · #31
Originally posted by alansfreed:


I have nothing against people who lurk here -- there's plenty to be learned from doing so. I just feel that it's rather bold to offer such a harsh criticism of other people's efforts if you yourself have not attempted to participate in challenges that are outside your own "photographic comfort zone" (in your case, nature shots).

I challenge you to test the waters of current topics offered by the site and see how you fare. Your nature shots are great; show us what else you have to offer.


I appreciate your being more open minded. Every now and again I branch out, but I do not feel I have the photographic equipment proper to some types of photography, such as sports or portrait.

I am a little surprised by how upset some of you have gotten. It's not like a pointed a finger at anyone specific. And actually a lot of the time I don't vote. It's very time consuming, tedious, and I'm not fond of the voting format . Therefore, I do not feel I should enter too often since I am not prone to vote. I do, however, like to view the winners and often get inspired from the better photographs I see here.
 09/18/2003 11:22:14 AM · #32
SNIP>>I do, however, like to view the winners and often get inspired from the better photographs I see here.
Now there is some of the 'point' of DPC.
 09/18/2003 11:28:23 AM · #33
Well, it only takes a moment to vote on what you consider "unworthy" shots, itf you really resent giving them your time just give them all a quick click and save your deliberate consideration and comments for the ones you like better. However, it may well be that those who arenn't up to your standards would appreciate the odd word of advice to point them in the right direction. Decide to do that out of kindness for one or two in each challenge and you will get to share some of your wisdom and maybe help to bring up the quality of the beginning photographers instead of just complaining about it
 09/18/2003 11:45:20 AM · #34
Originally posted by vonautsch:
I believe the point of DPC is to help everyone create better photos. The name alone says it all. Digital Photo Challenge, not contest, meaning to challenge you to become better.


Err. it says on the top of every page "dpchallenge a digital photography contest"

;)


09/18/2003 11:57:36 AM · #35
my confession: i've been registered for almost 6 months, and i haven't voted yet because i feel i am not yet qualified to comment on others' work. this forum, however, has me rethinking...i guess it's more constructive to start voting?
 09/18/2003 12:14:52 PM · #36
I would say its more helpful to yourself to look and vote, and especially think about what you see than to just submit work for consideration.
09/18/2003 12:37:58 PM · #37
Originally posted by pupparazzo:
my confession: i've been registered for almost 6 months, and i haven't voted yet because i feel i am not yet qualified to comment on others' work. this forum, however, has me rethinking...i guess it's more constructive to start voting?


I think your vote is especially qualified by your apparent honesty and modest stance toward the work of others. Personally, and after looking a your portfolio, I believe you are qualified on the basis of your work as well.
09/18/2003 01:14:48 PM · #38
Originally posted by jonpink:
Err. it says on the top of every page "dpchallenge a digital photography contest"


Details...details...

You're not suppose to read the fine print!!! ;)
 09/21/2003 02:02:04 AM · #39
Ok, here's my take...since no-body asked. :)

If all the people who enter, go through the steps to make sure they enter the best possible picture that they have, then I think anyone's picture is worthy of a vote. Some people put a lot of time into their shots, (Inede's ribbon winner for the "Oops" challenge, for example) //www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=35791 and for someone to say that some people's shots aren't worth a vote, is a slap in the face! :(
 09/21/2003 02:14:17 AM · #40
Why not just vote down the ones you don't like? It doesn't take any longer than clicking on the arrows and skipping the photo.
 09/21/2003 01:02:12 PM · #41
Originally posted by pupparazzo:
my confession: i've been registered for almost 6 months, and i haven't voted yet because i feel i am not yet qualified to comment on others' work. this forum, however, has me rethinking...i guess it's more constructive to start voting?

By voting, you force yourself to evaluate the photo, analyze what you like/don't like, and commit yourself to some position. I think it is by performing this evaluation that you actually learn something. This will be reinforced even more if you write a comment! There's nothing like having to write down one's thoughts to find out what one REALLY thinks.

If you just browse through the pictures without voting you will enjoy a lot of good pictures, but learn far less. Remember there is NO right or wrong vote; your OPINION is 100% as valid as any other voter's.

Similarly, I try and take the approach that there are no "right or wrong" entries, just some I like more or less than some others. I can respect the effort people put into their photos, even if I don't particularly care for the result.
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