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10/18/2007 03:40:39 PM · #126 |
| Sorry, I meant to say "let's get back on topic." ;-) |
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10/18/2007 03:45:53 PM · #127 |
I think the "Nude Flag" mainly exists for people who are browsing the site but are not registered users -- they cannot see photos in the voting stages, so effectively all properly-flagged nudes are hidden by default.
Once people have read and agreed to the TOS by registering, this feature is disabled for images currently in the voting stages, to ensure that all images are presented for voting with a sufficient degree of randomness to make the voting as statistically fair as possible. |
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10/18/2007 03:51:25 PM · #128 |
Read the whole thread -- just wanted to put in my tiny piece.
All of the religious and ethical quarreling aside...
Whether or not I agree or disagree with the original poster's reasons for suggesting that the nudity censor be expanded to voting, after thinking about it I believe that we would not see a significant influence on the final scores in challenges. I think that the point he and those who support him were trying to make was that regardless of whether it is right or not, those who have the Adult Content Filter checked will either vote low on images, or simply skip them during voting to begin with. Others, like jpochard, would rather have the option not to vote for these images in the workplace. Yes, I know that it is up to them to decide what to do when they are in the work environment, but what are we gaining by restricting them from having the option to vote on work-friendly images in their free time?
From the other side of things, yes, we may see a slight decrease in total votes on nude images in challenges. We do, however, at the present moment have to option to skip images in challenges or troll down those images we find offensive. It is not for me to say whether it is right to skip images or what have you, but it is the reality of DPC. I honestly believe that it would be mostly harmless to allow those select few who feel that it is necessary for nude images to be omitted from their voting to have the option not to view said images.
If we really look at the facts in the situation, I feel this is one argument that some of us may have to just give in to to appease as it really is unlikely to have any significant impact on our DPC-experience.
Feel free to agree or disagree with me!
Thanks,
Lee |
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10/18/2007 03:55:56 PM · #129 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
We can stop discussing labor... |
Someone on DPC went into labor? ;)
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Don't have a cow, man. |
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10/18/2007 03:58:19 PM · #130 |
Originally posted by Tranquil:
From the other side of things, yes, we may see a slight decrease in total votes on nude images in challenges. |
The thing of it is, it's arguable that if a significant number of regular voters opted to hide nudes via the checkbox, then the group of people actually VOTING on the nudes would, by extension, be skewed towards those that LIKE to view nudes, and so the voting average would be higher on nudes than it would be if the nude-dislikers were expressing their opinions with their votes.
Play a mind game: suppose we implemented a feature where various categories could be checked off: babies, pets, sunsets, water droplets, whatever. Does it not follow that these categories would receive higher average votes than otherwise?
I just think it's a bad idea, I think it's a direction we don't want to go in, this segregating of ANY topic from ANY subset of the voters.
R.
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10/18/2007 03:59:21 PM · #131 |
I can't see what all the fuss is about? If you fear getting caught at work with nudie pics on your screen, don't vote at work, wait til you get home!
If you are afraid your kids might see a nakkid bod, then it is about time you chilled out and explained to them that they can't have a bath without clothes on cos it is 'Rude or dirty'!
My kids and grandkids know what a nakkid body looks like, hey, they all have one! Really, what a bunch of pruds, I can't believe adults here are actually having this debate. I haven't seen any photo here that I would call offensive or provocative. I just seen people with no clothes on and lots of atmospheric shadows and lighting.
Get a life and support the Breast Cancer Challenge Thread!! On pay day my donation goes in! |
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10/18/2007 04:00:11 PM · #132 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Don't have a cow, man. |
Why you little ... |
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10/18/2007 04:00:25 PM · #133 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
[quote=Tranquil]
Play a mind game: suppose we implemented a feature where various categories could be checked off: babies, pets, sunsets, water droplets, whatever. Does it not follow that these categories would receive higher average votes than otherwise?
I just think it's a bad idea, I think it's a direction we don't want to go in, this segregating of ANY topic from ANY subset of the voters.
R. |
Yeah, I tend to agree with you. Was just trying to play devil's advocate there (no pun intended) :-p |
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10/18/2007 04:01:51 PM · #134 |
*grins evilly and rubs hands together with delight* Bring on that voting filter.
No nude trolls would have taken this to a ribbon. "This should not have been nude." would have no teeth. Yet, us porn addicts and nude art admirers would still vote high.
Bring it on. The filter would virtually guarantee nude artists ribbons.
Message edited by author 2007-10-18 16:05:53.
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10/18/2007 04:02:52 PM · #135 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by _eug:
Don't have a cow, man. |
Why you little ... |
Can I please speak to a Seymour Butts?
pun intended |
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10/18/2007 04:05:18 PM · #136 |
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10/18/2007 04:11:17 PM · #137 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
*grins evilly and rubs hands together with delight* Bring on that voting filter.
No nude trolls would have taken this to a ribbon. "This should not have been nude." would have no teeth. Yet, us porn addicts and nude art admirers would still vote high.
Bring it on. The filter would virtually guarantee nude artists ribbons. |
Nude artists get ribbons. Dr Jones has only entered 24 challenges - a huge majority of which are nude images. He also has been selected 658 times as a favorite photographer and 1336 favorite photographs. Oh, and a 6.7298 average score.
Pretty amazing stuff for this poor old nude artist, eh? |
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10/18/2007 04:20:39 PM · #138 |
I'm jealous that at least there IS a box to block nudes, although it doesn't work during voting. I wish I had a box to hide the violence, blood, guts and gore that I hate so much :-(
Before you start attacking me for feeling that way: I know we can't do that because everyone would want to block whatever THEY don't like, in the end there is nothing left to look at, etc etc etc blah blah blah.
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
The filter would virtually guarantee nude artists ribbons. |
Forget it buster - I have NO issues with nudes (in fact I'm all for them), but I still don't like that photo of yours because it doesn't make any sense to me :-p (but you know that already :-) |
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10/18/2007 04:21:19 PM · #139 |
sorry, it decided to double post
Message edited by author 2007-10-18 16:21:39. |
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10/18/2007 04:22:51 PM · #140 |
Originally posted by formerlee:
::snip::
Get a life and support the Breast Cancer Challenge Thread!! On pay day my donation goes in! |
admirable - thanks Steve!
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10/18/2007 04:47:13 PM · #141 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Pretty amazing stuff for this poor old nude artist, eh? |
He's a great photog, but his model goes a long longggggg way towards helping those images out. |
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10/18/2007 04:51:13 PM · #142 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
He's a great photog, but his model goes a long longggggg way towards helping those images out. |
Bianca Beauchamp inspires lustful thoughts in full clothing.
Message edited by author 2007-10-18 16:52:04.
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10/18/2007 04:52:27 PM · #143 |
From the ToS: "You understand that by using the Website, you may be exposed to content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable."
Though your concerns are understandable, this isn't Highlights for Kids, and voting is the ONE place where all images must be visible for the sake of a fair and representative vote. Whether the subject matter is scary, alarming, gory, indecent, offensive or whatever else you can think of (within the limits of legality), it's important that the entire spectrum of voters see all images and vote their opinions accordingly. |
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10/18/2007 05:00:19 PM · #144 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
From the ToS: "You understand that by using the Website, you may be exposed to content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable."
Though your concerns are understandable, this isn't Highlights for Kids, and voting is the ONE place where all images must be visible for the sake of a fair and representative vote. Whether the subject matter is scary, alarming, gory, indecent, offensive or whatever else you can think of (within the limits of legality), it's important that the entire spectrum of voters see all images and vote their opinions accordingly. |
Second. |
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10/18/2007 05:25:53 PM · #145 |
| I can understand the reasoning of this thread. What I do wonder about is work ethics. Should any of you be looking at DPC, especially voting (considering the time it takes) at work. I am an employer and would be very upset to know if any of my staff were wasting their time that I pay them to work, by persuing a hobby. As an employer who also works full time in my own business, I very rarely have time to do anything unwork ralated at work. If I did it would only be to check a score and then that is a treat. |
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10/18/2007 05:27:46 PM · #146 |
From my perspective I don't think that hiding the nude photos would alter the results. Yes, I realize some people may give it a lower score, but I would just skip it, I can't give something a low score just because there is a naked body, it might be a good shot, but I don't want to be looking at it either so the only fair thing, in my opinion, is to skip it. So not seeing it at all in the first place would have had no affect.
Bringing back up the topic of work and kids, besides those two things, I just don't want to see it. Yes, I have seen a naked body, but that doesn't mean I want to see them here. That is why I checked the box that says to not show me nude photos. And when you say this isn't a site for kids, last time I checked you only have to be 13 to be a member on the site, when I have 13 year olds I don't want them to be looking at nudity either.
I think it would be a great thing to not show nudes when voting, and no this isn't an imposition on everybody because you can set the preference yourself, yes I understand that you scan through the thumbnails first, but then you have to remember where they are at because once you vote on an image you get the next one to come up.
With all this said, I understand some people think it might alter scores, and maybe it will, so I can see why you would want everybody to see every image. In the end, are we here to get ribbons, or are we here to share our pictures and learn from others? I am a pretty competitive person, but if I never win a ribbon on here, I don't think that it is a bad thing. And if I lost out to a nude picture, I wouldn't get upset about it. Either way, I can live with and make adjustments for how things are, but I would love to not have to see the nudity at all, since they do offer me a checkbox that says I don't want to see it.
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10/18/2007 05:40:08 PM · #147 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Though your concerns are understandable, this isn't Highlights for Kids, and voting is the ONE place where all images must be visible for the sake of a fair and representative vote. Whether the subject matter is scary, alarming, gory, indecent, offensive or whatever else you can think of (within the limits of legality), it's important that the entire spectrum of voters see all images and vote their opinions accordingly. |
Last time I read it you only need to vote on 20 percent of the images so I really do not need to see them all |
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10/18/2007 05:43:11 PM · #148 |
Originally posted by rossbilly:
Originally posted by formerlee:
::snip::
Get a life and support the Breast Cancer Challenge Thread!! On pay day my donation goes in! |
admirable - thanks Steve! |
Yeah, thanks Steve :-)
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10/18/2007 05:44:46 PM · #149 |
Originally posted by Monique64:
If I did it would only be to check a score and then that is a treat. |
Checking it is a treat.
Seeing the score isn't. |
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10/18/2007 05:55:54 PM · #150 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by dudephil:
Pretty amazing stuff for this poor old nude artist, eh? |
He's a great photog, but his model goes a long longggggg way towards helping those images out. |
You really think that how the model looks really means anything? Surely you aren't saying that a beautiful, naked girl could evoke a feeling of lust are you? You must be crazaaahh!
Anywho, while his model certainly doesn't hurt the cause, his knowledge and exquisite use of lighting is what makes his images perfect/near perfect. I couldn't take her and do what he does as my lighting knowledge pretty much parallels my surgical skill. That's the main difference between a nude artist and a guy that shoots naked chicks - well, that and hot models. |
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