Enforce "Nude" flag on voting please...WARNING

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

10/18/2007 02:53:32 PM · #101

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Ok, realistic option.

Display the thumb of the next image in the queue on the current voting page and allow the voter to skip it.

I'm not supporting that, but it is an option.

I still don't understand the "view it to see if you want to view it" argument. I'm not trying to be difficult, it just doesn't make sense to me. Well, one is smaller, but the content is still there enough to cause an issue in a work environment. It's not just who can see what over your shoulder....it's knowing your computer usage is subject to audit at any time.

srdanz

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

10/18/2007 02:53:50 PM · #102

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

The answer, for me anyway, lies in my Christian faith. Personally I don't want to see either graphically depicted. But seeing violence, except to the most extreme and deranged -- is repulsive in the sense of the word. It does not draw one in or encourage imitation, but repulses them.

Nudity however, encourages sinful thoughts and perhaps actions. Again, I don't think many would see nudity and then rape someone, that's not the point. However nudity promotes lust, which is a sin -- in many faiths including Christianity. So while something is natural and beautiful between married people, it is also not for public display.

The violence vs. nudity thing is a straw man argument at best.

As for skewing votes, I still disagree. If anything it would help prevent us "prudes" from voting down such images -- which we can still vote on if we want this suggestion just insures that our random scrolling does not popup unwanted images.

I would strongly disagree here. I understand how viewing nude photos may trigger sinful thoughts and perhaps actions in you. You picked one sin - lust, leaving many other sins out there alone. There are other images that depict other sins.

Let's have them here (Christian version of sins, which immediately means that it does not apply to all DPCers), together with the example of emotions:

Luxuria (extravagance, later lust):

Gula (gluttony):

Avaritia (greed):

Acedia (sloth):

Ira (wrath, more commonly known as anger):

Invidia (envy):

Superbia (pride):

and the one that causes multiple sensations:

Are you saying that the only sensation you get is from the Luxuria (In a recent history adopted to only mean nudes?)

We would need a major flag for 7 deadly sins (christian), a few more major flags for other religions. Add a few minor flags for minor sins (but for those you have to answer a few questions correctly before being able to check those).

I see where you come from. I feel for you. But I do not believe that your request at this level is justified. At least not the way you are trying to justify it.

I am also visiting forums where any political and religious debate is automatically deleted. DPC is not one of those. I am sure that there are forums and sites where nude photography is absolutely prohibited (and something tells me that there are still images even on those sites that entice other "bad" feelings...)
I'm not saying that you should leave DPC, but that you should adjust your expectations to what this site offers. Do not expect it to adjust to your visions - at least not all the time.

10/18/2007 02:53:58 PM · #103

Originally posted by jpochard:

Size matters. Duh.

10/18/2007 02:54:40 PM · #104

Holy mother of christ someone posted nudes in the thread w/o putting WARNING in the thread title. I'm running for the nearest bomb shelter.

10/18/2007 02:55:49 PM · #105

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

GKG in '07

I am enlightened.

Wazoo is the man.

GKG in '07

10/18/2007 02:56:37 PM · #106

Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

If its company property you shouldn't be on any of the things you mentioned. You cannot seriously be aruging that its OK to vote on DPC challenges at work or on work owned machines. I do it too, Im at work right now.

If it hurts the company or takes away from your duties...absolutely not. That is up to each employer and employee to decide...not you. What difference does it make if I bring a book to read or browse dpc or email while I'm sitting waiting on phone calls?

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

10/18/2007 02:58:01 PM · #107

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Originally posted by jpochard:

I still don't understand the "view it to see if you want to view it" argument. I'm not trying to be difficult, it just doesn't make sense to me. Well, one is smaller, but the content is still there enough to cause an issue in a work environment. It's not just who can see what over your shoulder....it's knowing your computer usage is subject to audit at any time.

Size matters. Duh.

Not to my company. Duh.

NstiG8tr

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

10/18/2007 02:59:03 PM · #108

Originally posted by jpochard:

it has no bearing on my job performance.

That's irrelevant. It's not what somebody is paying you to do is it. Maybe your time could be better spent following up on leads or making calls instead of playing on the puter waiting on someone to call you while you check on a score that in all actuality means nothing. It just burns my ass when I hear people bitch about blocking nudes because they can't visit DPC at work. Lunch break or not, do your damn job and go home to visit DPC.

10/18/2007 03:01:01 PM · #109

Originally posted by jpochard:

Originally posted by "routerguy666":

Size matters. Duh.

Not to my company. Duh.

Wow. I thought that one was a pretty commonly recognized joke.

Message edited by author 2007-10-18 15:02:57.

fotomann_forever

10/18/2007 03:02:04 PM · #110

Anyone remember this image?

OK, let's say it was in a challenge: It should pass through a nudity filter. But would be quite difficult to explain at work if you got busted looking at it.

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Now, there is another issue. If the nude filter is enabled during voting, some may be misled into a false sense of security. Someone has to flag a photo as nude. It might not get flagged for hours or days, even.

You're sitting at work, voting, confident you won't hit a nude. Your boss walks in, right as Leroy's unmarked nude pops up on your screen. "Oh s&*%" you think. You get fired. Oops. "But, SC should have caught that?" Unlike us, Mr. Bossman doesn't care what SC should have done.

Message edited by author 2007-10-18 15:04:40.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/18/2007 03:03:51 PM · #111

Okay, well that's your opinion and I've stated mine. The debate is not about how I do my job (which I've done very well for over 10 years.) I still think the original request is reasonable. Thanks for you time :)

Originally posted by NstiG8tr:

Originally posted by jpochard:
it has no bearing on my job performance.

That's irrelevant. It's not what somebody is paying you to do is it. Maybe your time could be better spent following up on leads or making calls instead of playing on the puter waiting on someone to call you while you check on a score that in all actuality means nothing. It just burns my ass when I hear people bitch about blocking nudes because they can't visit DPC at work. Lunch break or not, do your damn job and go home to visit DPC.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

10/18/2007 03:04:46 PM · #112

We can stop discussing labor law now ...

10/18/2007 03:06:25 PM · #113

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Originally posted by jpochard:
Originally posted by "routerguy666":

Size matters. Duh.

Not to my company. Duh.

Wow. I thought that one was a pretty commonly recognized joke.

Sorry...it is. With some of the tone being carried in this thread, I apparently misread a joke as a slight insult. My apologies. BIG apology....as size apparently matters :) :) :)

10/18/2007 03:11:31 PM · #114

Leroy,

Good point, but at least I can point out that I had chosen to have them blocked and show them my profile preferences.

You know, I've never had that issue at work because I generally avoid any questionable places. However...even a "Google" search can turn up some crazy stuff. Just gotta be careful on any work computer...but any work computer with Internet access is probably going to have SOMETHING on it that the boss won't like. It would just be nice IMO to avoid whatever we could. So, I suppose I will keep avoiding it by just not voting at work.

Message edited by author 2007-10-18 15:12:00.

whiteroom

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/18/2007 03:14:52 PM · #115

Originally posted by zeuszen:

I'd rather have my kids behold the human form than having to indulge in pictures void of anything but glitz and false sentiments.

with all due respect apart from yours i rarely see any natural
nudes here...

glad2badad

Apple iPhone 16 Pro

Lensbaby Sweet 35 Optic

10/18/2007 03:23:40 PM · #116

I think I'll just quit voting & commenting on challenges all together while at work (that probably makes a few folks happy).

At home I have no time really either to waste on voting/commenting on challenge entries (work is a better place for time wasting when idle).

So, I guess I could be a candidate for

Jmnuggy's option - just leave DPC, that's the safe and easy choice.

Hmmm...that update button is pretty addictive. Don't know that I could stand those withdrawal symptoms.

Ok. I've decided. Just quit voting & commenting on challenges. Cool! Now, what to do with my newly found free time? BHPhotoVideo.com, Adorama.com, Dyxum.com, hmmm...

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

10/18/2007 03:24:40 PM · #117

Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:

...Nudity however, encourages sinful thoughts and perhaps actions....nudity promotes lust, which is a sin...

With all respect for your own personal preferences (whatever their motivations)...
I cannont, for the life of me, derive any sense or life from such a blanket statement.

God, the world is nude, and my little dog has no shame. Neither do stones, fish or horses. You and I were born this way. By all means put on clothes to keep warm or to impress others, but, please, do not give me sin and guilt for insisting on my place within nature rather than outside of or, worse, above it.

Nudity encourages nothing, 'cept a little truth, perhaps. Greed and selfishness promote lust and what have you, as do a plethora of falsities, concealments and ills and the conventions maintining a stubborn disinterest in truth and the nature of things.

Message edited by author 2007-10-18 15:30:38.

10/18/2007 03:29:16 PM · #118

Originally posted by zeuszen:

God, the world is nude, and my little dog has no shame.

If a talking snake walked up to your dog with an apple, things might be very very different. Think about it.

smurfguy

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

10/18/2007 03:31:00 PM · #119

The issue is respecting people's wish to avoid adult content (not just nudity) when and where they see fit. It seems like a legitimate request, and has a precedence in the checkbox - it's just not quite sitewide.

No need to discuss my moral standards vs. yours vs. Leroys, what sin is, and who's being a prude.

NVPhoto