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 10/12/2007 11:41:29 PM · #51
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

He has another football image as well, but I couldn't find it.

I can only imagine what it must have looked like to seen him on the sidelines with his beat up Leica while all the "pros" ran about with multiple cameras and big telephoto lenses.


This was the post. How many is too many ?

This describes my lens choice since January, too Similarly, the exercise of picking one prime lens and shooting with it exclusively until you've forgotten what other lenses feel like is a learning experience that you will carry with you for the rest of your life. Don't think so? Ask any photographer who's done it.
 10/13/2007 12:05:02 AM · #52
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

He has another football image as well, but I couldn't find it.

I can only imagine what it must have looked like to seen him on the sidelines with his beat up Leica while all the "pros" ran about with multiple cameras and big telephoto lenses.


This was the post. How many is too many ?

This describes my lens choice since January, too Similarly, the exercise of picking one prime lens and shooting with it exclusively until you've forgotten what other lenses feel like is a learning experience that you will carry with you for the rest of your life. Don't think so? Ask any photographer who's done it.


Hmmm... an interesting exercise, but which lens should I pick? 28, 50 or 85? All are f1.8. Maybe something wider...

Thanks for sharing that.
 10/13/2007 12:32:16 AM · #53
I did that back BC (before cards) and I did learn how to "see" the frame for each focal length without even bringing the camera up to eye level. Zooms were rare not too great, and expensive when I was learning to use an SLR film camera.
For the one lens experiment, I would pick a lens about 30 or 35MM focal length for a 1.6 crop camera or 35 to 50mm for a full frame. There is good reason why that angle of view was the popular OEM lens from the beginning of SLR history.

Message edited by author 2007-10-13 00:35:36.
 10/13/2007 12:38:35 AM · #54
Pack em all and the tripod. Just take lots of photos w/ your wife. It's a win win situation and you will have memories as well as photos.
 10/13/2007 12:59:10 AM · #55
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
I did that back BC (before cards) and I did learn how to "see" the frame for each focal length without even bringing the camera up to eye level. Zooms were rare not too great, and expensive when I was learning to use an SLR film camera.
For the one lens experiment, I would pick a lens about 30 or 35MM focal length for a 1.6 crop camera or 35 to 50mm for a full frame. There is good reason why that angle of view was the popular OEM lens from the beginning of SLR history.


Incidentally, I use my zoom lens like this when doing free time creative shooting. I rotate it to 24mm (approx 38mm FF equiv) and leave it there, moving my position for framing. I like it.
 10/13/2007 01:05:47 AM · #56
I cracked. I prevaricated. I've packed the 50 and 85.
 10/13/2007 04:39:36 AM · #57
Originally posted by Gordon:
I cracked. I prevaricated. I've packed the 50 and 85.


Thats ok, we are all a little cracked:)

Have a great trip and look forward to seeing some photos!
 10/13/2007 06:09:16 AM · #58
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Gordon:

I have a vague memory of a Gary Winograd shot of American football shot with a 20mm. That's obviously the 'wrong' focal length to use. Yet it stands out in my mind far more than all the 200mm and 400mm or longer football shots I've seen.


Garry Winogrand shoots football.


Good place to shoot it too. That's the picture I was thinking about. Thanks for finding it, I haven't seen it for about 5 years I think.


Thanks for bringing this to my attention, love it. On the other hand, if you run into a bear in the wilds of Yosemite, I would recommend the telephoto, not the wide angle. :)
 10/13/2007 12:42:12 PM · #59
Originally posted by Gordon:
I cracked. I prevaricated. I've packed the 50 and 85.


I think I'm going to stick with the 85 and the 28 only for the next couple of months.
 10/13/2007 01:47:50 PM · #60
Originally posted by Gordon:
I cracked. I prevaricated. I've packed the 50 and 85.


"Prevaricated" = "told a lie"... Is that what you meant?

R.
 10/14/2007 01:59:42 PM · #61
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Gordon:
I cracked. I prevaricated. I've packed the 50 and 85.


"Prevaricated" = "told a lie"... Is that what you meant?

R.


Prevaricated more literally means to 'stray from the truth' or the true path.
10/14/2007 02:21:02 PM · #62
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Gordon:
I cracked. I prevaricated. I've packed the 50 and 85.


"Prevaricated" = "told a lie"... Is that what you meant?

R.


Prevaricated more literally means to 'stray from the truth' or the true path.


You and I are the greatest verbal hair-splitting team in DPC, LOL. "stray from the truth" = "tell a lie" in my book, jejeje�

R.

ETA: actually, wordnet offers this: Prevaricate = "beat around the bush: be deliberately ambiguous or unclear in order to mislead or withhold information "

So I guess you win this round, in the end :-)

Message edited by author 2007-10-14 14:22:34.
 10/14/2007 02:37:59 PM · #63
why not just the 17-40? When I go out like you are I don't want to take a bunch of stuff & don't want to be switching lenses all the time (sensor dust!!)
Buuutt... I really love my 28 1.8 :0)
 10/14/2007 03:40:16 PM · #64
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Gordon:
I cracked. I prevaricated. I've packed the 50 and 85.


"Prevaricated" = "told a lie"... Is that what you meant?

R.


Prevaricated more literally means to 'stray from the truth' or the true path.


You and I are the greatest verbal hair-splitting team in DPC, LOL. "stray from the truth" = "tell a lie" in my book,


True - but in this sense I was meaning I'd moved away from the 'path of truth' of using just one prime - and taken two :)
 10/14/2007 04:13:20 PM · #65
f4 vs f1.8

Originally posted by oOWonderBreadOo:
why not just the 17-40? When I go out like you are I don't want to take a bunch of stuff & don't want to be switching lenses all the time (sensor dust!!)
Buuutt... I really love my 28 1.8 :0)
10/14/2007 04:35:53 PM · #66
Just close your eyes and pick one.
 10/15/2007 01:44:08 AM · #67
I went with the 50 and not much else.


10/15/2007 10:07:24 AM · #68
Hey gordon, I can't quite tell from the pic, are you using a lens hood on that puppy? I looked around and got myself a nice multi-stage rubber lens hood as I find that oblique light really kills contrast at wide apertures on the f/1.4. I can pull it out and have it shade just a part of the lens as desired. I love it to bitses.

I can't imagine that this effect would be any different from 1.6x crop to 1.3x crop as it's a lens thing.

Have fun with it. I get all jittery when I put that 50mm on my camera (it's still pretty new for me). Sweet and a half.
 10/15/2007 12:26:38 PM · #69
Originally posted by eschelar:
Hey gordon, I can't quite tell from the pic, are you using a lens hood on that puppy?


Yup, I've got the ES-71II hood on it
 10/22/2007 12:01:54 PM · #70
Taking just the 50mm turned out to be a great idea. I used the 85mm maybe 5 times in the whole trip. Having effectively just one prime certainly changed my view on a lot of the opportunities out there.

I suppose the one shot I 'missed' was of the bear I met on a fairly remote trail. Though I doubt lens choice mattered there - I was just trying not to antagonize it while I backed away. Black bears look mighty big when you come around the corner on a trail and find one 5 yards away...
 10/22/2007 12:05:13 PM · #71
Are you gonna post a link to some galleries? =)
 10/22/2007 12:16:22 PM · #72
Originally posted by smurfguy:
Are you gonna post a link to some galleries? =)


Some day :) I got back at 2am today. At work now. 16Gb of snaps to work through at some point this week...
 10/24/2007 12:51:20 PM · #73
Originally posted by smurfguy:
Are you gonna post a link to some galleries? =)


I posted an initial set in this rapidly vanishing thread.
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